It's kind of one of those weird things where it depends on the title the character is running in. Odin wins by and large by virtue of consistent showings and good ones at that.
That said when operating as a lord of order the powers of Dr. Fate are more plot device rather than power set. For instance the lords of order in Day of Vengeance I'd give the nod over Odin. Spectre was an absolute monster in that run and Marvel, Shazam, Nabu and Fate all impressed me. However call Dr. Fate from a collab/team comic and he gets wrecked 8-9/10
Originally posted by Uriel005
It's kind of one of those weird things where it depends on the title the character is running in. Odin wins by and large by virtue of consistent showings and good ones at that.That said when operating as a lord of order the powers of Dr. Fate are more plot device rather than power set. For instance the lords of order in Day of Vengeance I'd give the nod over Odin. Spectre was an absolute monster in that run and Marvel, Shazam, Nabu and Fate all impressed me. However call Dr. Fate from a collab/team comic and he gets wrecked 8-9/10
This makes no sense. The majority of Classic Fate's showings were above the level of even Nabu in DoV. Combine that with the OP stating this is Kent + Inza ( an amped version of Classic Fate only seen in one issue) and the version of Fate being discussed is way above Lord's of Order/Chaos from DoV.
In the one and only tale where Kent merged with Inza to enhance his power so that he could defeat the Lord of Order Ynar who was aligned with the Lord of Chaos Vandeamon they two lords of power had warped all reality to be what they wanted it to be. planets ceased to exist as did all life on earth. Only Kent, Inza and their tower were immune to the reality warping because reality warping doesn't affect them. By merging Dr Fate had the power of the Lords of Order, and Chaos as well as the spirit of man (both yin and yang). Once he defeated them and cast them out warping reality back to normal was a pretty casual effort for him.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/DrFate-forcesbeyonghumanunderstanding.jpg.html?sort=3&o=47
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/DrFatefightstheunkown-1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=58
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/DrFate-fightstheunknown2-1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=59
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/DrFate-0315-1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=66
Those are before he merged with Inza (there was more but basically he could only stalemate the beings who "warped the cosmos".
Here is after.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/KentandInzamerge.jpg.html
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/KentandInzamerged2.jpg.html
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/KentandinzaMerged3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/KentandInzamerged4.jpg.html
That's it, that is the entirety of the showings of the merged Kent and Inza version of Dr Fate. While impressive I don't see how so few showings can be stacked against Odin's greater number of Feats.
Now while this is the only universal reality warping feat Fate ever achieved it's hard to measure his power levels from the issue against Odin on anything other than the reality. The reason is simply this was the only appearances of Ynar and Vandeamon so the universal level of reality warping is the only thing we have to measure their power by.
As for the "powerset" of Classic fate
powers of the body of Kent Nelson without any magical talismans
These power all stem from alterations Nabu to to Kent on a molecular level
Super strength ( class 100++ easily carries air liners with no strain)
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/AAanohelmetFatestrength.jpg.html?sort=3&o=14
Invulnerability ( physically impervious only weakness is a need to breath, immune to all disease and unaffected by magic or reality warping)
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/HalfHelmetfateendurance.jpg.html?sort=3&o=13
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/HalfHelmetFateendurance2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=17
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/halfhelmetDrFteendurance3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=15
teachings of Nabu to Kent
As it's told in Kent's origin Nabu taught him long lost secrets that man "would call magic". these included
molecular control - Kent could control his body on a molecualr level. he could draw energy from anything and use it to his will or even from his own atoms. He could matter manipulate
Flight/levitation - can levitate himself and other objects.
TP mild clairvoyance.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/All-StarSquadron47-Page9.jpg.html
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/KentNelsonwastaughtageoldsecrets.jpg.html?sort=3&o=87
With his artifacts of power he could blast with the energy within his body or move planets at will. Dimensionally manipulate, bend space and time to his will, call on the power of gods, and magic to high order. Traverse the barriers to anywhere (including the after life)
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/TimespaceanddimensionholdnobarriertoDrFate.jpg.html?sort=3&o=24
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/fatemovesaplanet-3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=98
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/DrFategoeswherehewants1-1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=61
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/Drfategoeswherehewants2-1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=62
Members are not going to approach this topic, because few are aware of just how powerful Classic Fate was, much less gauge Kent + Inza Fate.
I had always thought Classic Fate was a rival to Wildstorm Doctor(s) or Classic Strange. I think Silver Age Fate is superior. At the top of the Transcendent Class, if not outright Skyfater under the right circumstances.
Originally posted by "Id"higher actually if you consider what the Lords of Order and Chaos were supposed to be case and point being Mordru/Shazam and Fate is among their peers.
Members are not going to approach this topic, because few are aware of just how powerful Classic Fate was, much less gauge Kent + Inza Fate.I had always thought Classic Fate was a rival to Wildstorm Doctor(s) or Classic Strange. I think Silver Age Fate is superior. At the top of the Transcendent Class, if not outright Skyfater under the right circumstances.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklynYou haven't established what kind of power that amasses. You just used titles and acted like that is evidence. It isn't.
Canon.I made the thread with Odin vs Mordru.
Dr. Fate embodies ALL of the power of the Lords of Order and Chaos.
What has Odin done to show he can handle power on that level?
Originally posted by quanchi112
You haven't established what kind of power that amasses. You just used titles and acted like that is evidence. It isn't.
If you don't know about The Lords of Order and The Lords of Chaos, then you are unqualified to comment.
I'll make it simple.
Dr Fate + Mordru= Dead Odin
The One eye is facing more than that in this incarnation of Fate.
