Originally posted by quanchi112
He provides the life force of the other Asgardians and took it back when he faced off against the CelestiAls.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superior portrayals.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Portrayed as above characters who pose a threat to Fate.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklynConcession accepted. Look up the word all in the near future.
This is pathetic.The fact that you require "Scans' for something that is common knowledge for even a passing DC fan is a disgrace.
You have no knowledge of Dr. Fate and the Lords of Order and Chaos and yet you have the nerve to debate the issue.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Portrayed as above characters who pose a threat to Fate.
This one has me curious. Who are these "alleged" characters that pose a threat to "CLASSIC" Dr Fate ???
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/aaaatotecvFate.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/AAAtotecvfate2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/30145/2492771-aaaaa_kent_denies_fate.jpg
Fate is a being without end. In none of his classic appearances was there EVER any character who was a threat of any substance to him. The only means he had to "destroy him" was to try and make his host not willing to be his host any longer. Nabu had made sure nothing could harm his host by making it impervious, immune to all mortal harm, and unaging.
Even the Corrigan Spectre who was amped by the ring of life and by Kulak could only BFR him for a temporary win.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FateVSpec1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=46
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FatevSpec2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=43
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FateVSpec3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=42
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FatevSpec4.jpg.html?sort=3&o=41
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FatevSpec5.jpg.html?sort=3&o=40
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FatevSpec6.jpg.html?sort=3&o=39
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FatevSpec7.jpg.html?sort=3&o=38
Hell when Andrew Bennet brought about the end of existence on behalf of the Lords of Oder (which only sparked creation anew) a later far less powerful version of Dr Fate simply watched as creation was redone, the end of existence and rebirth of everything having no effect on him at all.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/DrFatewitnessescreationfromtheloveofOrderandChaos1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=55
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/DrFatewitnesscreation3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=56
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/DrFatewitnesscreation2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=57
A few examples of Fate's control over time
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iwsWGVeFCbA/T9GKfv-tnVI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/mFzuSMciEYE/s1600/eater%2Bisland%2Bheads2.jpg
Simple fact of the matter is anything Dr Fate believes simply is
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/3078494-dr.+fate+v2+%2340+-+page+13.jpg
Originally posted by beatboksMaking it impervious to aging and what not has no bearing on an actual fight. Surtur, Mangog, etc. Are all capable of defeating Fate despite all of the exaggerations posted here.
This one has me curious. Who are these "alleged" characters that pose a threat to "CLASSIC" Dr Fate ???http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/aaaatotecvFate.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/AAAtotecvfate2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/30145/2492771-aaaaa_kent_denies_fate.jpg
Fate is a being without end. In none of his classic appearances was there EVER any character who was a threat of any substance to him. The only means he had to "destroy him" was to try and make his host not willing to be his host any longer. Nabu had made sure nothing could harm his host by making it impervious, immune to all mortal harm, and unaging.
Even the Corrigan Spectre who was amped by the ring of life and by Kulak could only BFR him for a temporary win.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FateVSpec1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=46
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FatevSpec2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=43
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FateVSpec3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=42
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FatevSpec4.jpg.html?sort=3&o=41
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FatevSpec5.jpg.html?sort=3&o=40
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FatevSpec6.jpg.html?sort=3&o=39
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/FatevSpec7.jpg.html?sort=3&o=38
Hell when Andrew Bennet brought about the end of existence on behalf of the Lords of Oder (which only sparked creation anew) a later far less powerful version of Dr Fate simply watched as creation was redone, the end of existence and rebirth of everything having no effect on him at all.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/DrFatewitnessescreationfromtheloveofOrderandChaos1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=55
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/DrFatewitnesscreation3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=56
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/DrFatewitnesscreation2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=57A few examples of Fate's control over time
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iwsWGVeFCbA/T9GKfv-tnVI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/mFzuSMciEYE/s1600/eater%2Bisland%2Bheads2.jpgSimple fact of the matter is anything Dr Fate believes simply is
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/3078494-dr.+fate+v2+%2340+-+page+13.jpg
Originally posted by quanchi112
Untrue. Odin wins via superior power and durability.
Normal Dr. Fate would give Odin a battle.
This is NOT normal Dr. Fate but Dr. Fate + Inza. His power in this version is increased tremendously. Your resistance in accepting what not only I but other knowledgeable posters have said in this debate makes no sense.
Lets play it your way.
Dr. Fate here simply has his own power as a Lord of Order and Mordru's power as a Lord of Chaos.
Can Odin defeat both Dr. Fate and Mordru at the same time?
Originally posted by EpicurusOh I believe the scans exist. I am simply pestering Quanchi, with his quick spam replies, and troubling for scans along the way, when he himself rarely provides proof for his own claims.There are at least 2 notable instances where Odin has amped off Asgard itself; one is the battle with the Celestials, the other is the fight with Seth where Odin was deprived of the Odinpower.
Not necessarily directed at you. But why would this even be a factor? Odin needs to be in his realm for the amapage, a questionable response when this battle is taking place on neutral grounds.
313wank
Originally posted by "Id"not that I feel like getting in the midst of this pissing match but Odin can pull Asgard to himself or just teleport them both to Asgard.
Oh I believe the scans exist. I am simply pestering Quanchi, with his quick spam replies, and troubling for scans along the way, when he himself rarely provides proof for his own claims.Not necessarily directed at you. But why would this even be a factor? Odin needs to be in his realm for the amapage, a questionable response when this battle is taking place on neutral grounds.
313wank
Unless Odin is for some reason cut off from Asgard/his armory he should win pretty brutally.
Originally posted by "Id"
Not necessarily directed at you. But why would this even be a factor? Odin needs to be in his realm for the amapage, a questionable response when this battle is taking place on neutral grounds.
Actually, Odin at one point absorbed the energy of other Asgardians (The Odin Force empowers not only the nine worlds, but the Asgardian race) to fight a foe instead of his own reserves and even Sif and the others who were on earth were deprived of their godly power. Not that dimensional barriers and universal distances should in anyway hinder Odin from absorbing energy, especially his own. This is the guy who enchanted Mjolnir after all.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Unless Odin is for some reason cut off from Asgard/his armory he should win pretty brutally.
"He should win pretty brutally"
No, he shouldn't.
Dr. Fate + Inza has access to the power of BOTH the Lords of Order and The Lords of Chaos.
Odin can't be 2 Lords of Order/Chaos at the same time. Dr. Fate + Inza has access to the power of both groups.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
not that I feel like getting in the midst of this pissing match but Odin can pull Asgard to himself or just teleport them both to Asgard.Unless Odin is for some reason cut off from Asgard/his armory he should win pretty brutally.
Respectively Fate can channel the energies from the Realm of Order, because the Helm of Fate acts as a conduit between Fate and its Realm. Ynar and Vandaemeon where going to exploit Fate, to empower themselves enough claim the Multiverse.
Weather he can teleport to Asgard, or call his armory from Asgard isn't what I am questioning.
