Ulquiorra's lanza is indeed country level
Everyone always said that it has only been city level and that Bleach hasn't shown anything more impressive visually than that. But in actuality it is country level.
Las Noches takes 3 days to cross. That makes it the size of texas which is the size of a small country.
Lanza dwarfed that so that makes it country level.
And Renji and Ichigo move far faster than humans. I f it took them 3 days then that means it is even larger than texas.
First of all Nel's statement should be taken as fact since she was right when she gave information on both Aizen and The espada. She wouldn't lie.
"Lanza being island to country level is backed up by feats. We’ve got fodder espada doing 4-5 city blocks worth of damage and equally fodder Shinigami matching it at a fifth of their power. City level Lanza is, quite frankly, laughable."
You’ve got multi-city block fodder, the whole running scene, the thickness of LN’s walls, and Nel’s statements which all point to country sized Las Noches. Then you’ve got Ulquiorra and Ichigo’s ceros that wrecked huge portions of Las Noches' roof, and the Lanza explosion that was at least as large as LN itself. Not to mention Aizen’s command to not use the Gran Ray Cero inside LN because it could destroy it."
Originally posted by HST Gambit
First of all Nel's statement should be taken as fact since she was right when she gave information on both Aizen and The espada. She wouldn't lie.
Sure, except for the fact that doing so is ridiculous.
Everyone and his cousin got to the geographic center of Las Noches within a day of having breached the outer walls and that was with everyone having major fights and getting beat up to all hell.
Therefore, Nel is full of shit. Somehow, that's not all that surprising.
Originally posted by Estrecca
Sure, except for the fact that doing so is ridiculous.Everyone and his cousin got to the geographic center of Las Noches within a day of having breached the outer walls and that was with everyone having major fights and getting beat up to all hell.
Therefore, Nel is full of shit. Somehow, that's not all that surprising.
That was because they were using their superhuman speeds, and not simply peak human walking speeds.
Ichigo and Grimmjow flew off at hypersonic+ speeds to take the fight away. And Ichigo again flew at his top speed for an unknown amount of time, to reach the center to fight Ulquiorra.
Assuming a speed Mach 20 and the flight even as small as 5 minutes, the distance they can cross in this time will be over 2000 km.
But half of LN is only 90 km at a low end using calcs.
Oh wait but you are clearly wrong see
It all depends on which gate they started at... Average walking distance (you can’t prove they would WALK faster than average) would be around 215 miles in 72 hours. Then you have to deduct roughly 18 hours for sleep. (assuming they only got about 6 hours a day) And a little over an hour a day for breaks and whatnot (just to be fair) and you’d come up with around 50 hours for walking. According to Google Maps, you can walk 150 miles in 50 hours. That’s roughly 3 miles per hour.
Now, if I recall correctly, they were on the corner of Los Noches when Neil pointed and said the closest gate is that way. We’ll just assume for consistency that there would be a gate in the middle of each wall. (you really don’t want there to be more than one gate because it really just makes it much larger) She’d be pointing to the short end of Los Noches and basically saying the middle of the wall is 150 miles that way. So you have 300 miles for the total length of the short side.
Just judging by this panel, Los Noches' long side is at least 3 times longer than the short. So basically the long side is around 900 miles.
Giving you a square footage of roughly 270,000 miles. Or roughly 434,000 km. So basically the size of Texas. Even if you cut down drastically... Giving them only 25 hours of walking instead of 50, it’s still half the size of Texas. You’re looking at a huge structure no matter how you slice it.
@ Rikudo sennin: I don't see the point. Don't feed the troll. Anyone that's stupid enough to believe that LN is half the size of Texas is obviously a troll.
@ HST Gambit: Except they rode on a giant worm thing for most of the way, so you can't gather an actual distance OR time frame. It's eternal night, so... you're dumb.
Las Noches is big, but definitely no bigger than the leaf village at best, considering the giant sand guy was actually comparable in size to it. Not to mention that you can calc from how big Ulquiorra was in comparison to the pillars that it's only about town sized AT THE MOST. It's actually pretty small for a castle, and you to say it's half the size of Texas makes you look... dumb.
If anyone's clearly wrong, it's obviously you.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
@ Rikudo sennin: I don't see the point. Don't feed the troll. Anyone that's stupid enough to believe that LN is half the size of Texas is obviously a troll.@ HST Gambit: Except they rode on a giant worm thing for most of the way, so you can't gather an actual distance OR time frame. It's eternal night, so... you're dumb.
Las Noches is big, but definitely no bigger than the leaf village at best, considering the giant sand guy was actually comparable in size to it. Not to mention that you can calc from how big Ulquiorra was in comparison to the pillars that it's only about town sized AT THE MOST. It's actually pretty small for a castle, and you to say it's half the size of Texas makes you look... dumb.
If anyone's clearly wrong, it's obviously you.
nel stated is took 3 days of walking to get from point a to point b.
she didnt say how fast, or taking breaks, or any other factors in fact.
what is another fact is that shinigamis are far above the average human.
if people is gonna say excuses like, taking breaks or the speed, or any other obstacles that slows the the time from point a to point b, thats a assumption.
Originally posted by HST Gambitwhat
Oh wait but you are clearly wrong seeIt all depends on which gate they started at... Average walking distance (you can’t prove they would WALK faster than average) would be around 215 miles in 72 hours. Then you have to deduct roughly 18 hours for sleep. (assuming they only got about 6 hours a day) And a little over an hour a day for breaks and whatnot (just to be fair) and you’d come up with around 50 hours for walking. According to Google Maps, you can walk 150 miles in 50 hours. That’s roughly 3 miles per hour.
Now, if I recall correctly, they were on the corner of Los Noches when Neil pointed and said the closest gate is that way. We’ll just assume for consistency that there would be a gate in the middle of each wall. (you really don’t want there to be more than one gate because it really just makes it much larger) She’d be pointing to the short end of Los Noches and basically saying the middle of the wall is 150 miles that way. So you have 300 miles for the total length of the short side.
Just judging by this panel, Los Noches' long side is at least 3 times longer than the short. So basically the long side is around 900 miles.
Giving you a square footage of roughly 270,000 miles. Or roughly 434,000 km. So basically the size of Texas. Even if you cut down drastically... Giving them only 25 hours of walking instead of 50, it’s still half the size of Texas. You’re looking at a huge structure no matter how you slice it.
Originally posted by HST Gambit
nel stated is took 3 days of walking to get from point a to point b.she didnt say how fast, or taking breaks, or any other factors in fact.
what is another fact is that shinigamis are far above the average human.if people is gonna say excuses like, taking breaks or the speed, or any other obstacles that slows the the time from point a to point b, thats a assumption.
Okay, so explain to me how you calculated their running speed. They were NOT moving faster than human speed, because Chad was with them, and is a normal human.
Nel didn't know how fast they were. She was definitely judging from HER specific biology, not a bankai Ichigo's, which she'd never seen. A five year old girl taking three days to get somewhere obviously proves it's not that far. Not to mention that it still doesn't calculate the size of LN. What you're arguing literally makes no sense at all. LN's pillars weren't that much bigger than Ulquiorra. If the castle was half the size of Texas, then Ulquiorra would have been about as big as an amoeba compared to a blue whale, when in contrast with the pillars.
Even Aizen couldn't outrun an earthly explosion, which expands at mach 24. High-balling it, LN is still barely calc-able as about 26 miles in diameter.
Proof of this, and debunk of your argument, is the sole fact that Aizen possessed by the hogyoku in hollow form wasn't even able to destroy a single, japanese town with his strongest demonstrated attack.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Okay, so explain to me how you calculated their running speed. They were NOT moving faster than human speed, because Chad was with them, and is a normal human.Nel didn't know how fast they were. She was definitely judging from HER specific biology, not a bankai Ichigo's, which she'd never seen. A five year old girl taking three days to get somewhere obviously proves it's not that far. Not to mention that it still doesn't calculate the size of LN. What you're arguing literally makes no sense at all. LN's pillars weren't that much bigger than Ulquiorra. If the castle was half the size of Texas, then Ulquiorra would have been about as big as an amoeba compared to a blue whale, when in contrast with the pillars.
Even Aizen couldn't outrun an earthly explosion, which expands at mach 24. High-balling it, LN is still barely calc-able as about 26 miles in diameter.
Proof of this, and debunk of your argument, is the sole fact that Aizen possessed by the hogyoku in hollow form wasn't even able to destroy a single, japanese town with his strongest demonstrated attack.
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full of shit and lowballing the pillar’s size as usual
The three days statement is not to be taking by anyone’s speed,or els i would take youruichi’s statment based on her own speed and get massive numbers for serietie
Well for a start that’s bullshit seeing as Nel ran as fast as Ichigo (in fact she outran him), so I suggest you shut the **** like the shitter you are, lol.
Again, LN didn’t change size even after a day of running from Ichigo’s perspective. Rooms had their own atmospheres. Then you have Nel’s statement. Stop being autistic. Idk about Texas sized, but LN is at least island sized. Lol @ Ulquiorra being city level when characters weaker than him already reached that power in potency.