Ulquiorra's lanza is indeed country level

Started by SSJGGogeta9 pages

Originally posted by HST Gambit
Came across this

full of shit and lowballing the pillar’s size as usual
The three days statement is not to be taking by anyone’s speed,or els i would take youruichi’s statment based on her own speed and get massive numbers for serietie
Well for a start that’s bullshit seeing as Nel ran as fast as Ichigo (in fact she outran him), so I suggest you shut the **** like the shitter you are, lol.

Again, LN didn’t change size even after a day of running from Ichigo’s perspective. Rooms had their own atmospheres. Then you have Nel’s statement. Stop being autistic. Idk about Texas sized, but LN is at least island sized. Lol @ Ulquiorra being city level when characters weaker than him already reached that power in potency.

These four pillars are roughly about a 16th the size of LN. Unless Ulquiorra is that big compared to a 32nd of Texas(which he's obviously not), you're out of your phucking mind. 👆

What statement from Yoroichi? She stated she was faster than Byakuya. They are both around mach 10 at the most at that point. 👆

Comic relief, genius. Unless you're actually suggesting that Nel is faster than Ichigo, which makes you even dumber than I thought you were. 👆

Just to put to rest any ignorant, pseudo-argument you could come up with, here's Nel incapable of keeping up with Ichigo while running the same speed as Chad, a normal human in terms of speed. 👆

Unless this sand guy, who didn't even come close to dwarfing the worm hollow, and was no bigger than Komomura's bankai at the most, is also island size, you have no argument here.

You know, I would stop being autistic and shut "the ****"(btw, is this some kind of container of sorts? I've never heard of "the ****".) like the shitter I am, but my ego's still a little bruised from that harsh downpour of insults, so you'll have to excuse me for a moment. Anyway, get back to your rock before you make yourself look any more ignorant, you abominable, single-chromosomal, ignorant, biased troglodyte. 👆

Who, in all of Bleach before Aizen, was town level? Ulquiorra is nowhere NEAR Aizen OR town level. 👆

I was talking about Yoruichi's statement about how long it takes to get to another part of sereitei.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Unless Ulquiorra is that big compared to a 32nd of Texas

What if he actually is mmm

1)the three days statement was just to give us a sense of distance,and that sense would be lost if it was meant to be taken by nel or anyone in the verse’s speed or stamina

2)if you wanna argue that it was based on nel’s speed then i’ll argue that it was on bawawa’s speed since they were riding it,and i’ll get massively bigger numbers than texas
But we don’t do that because it was never stated on which speed we should take,thus taking our own pace to get a freaking SENSE OF DISTANCE

3)unless it was never stated or shown how big that thing is THEN you can eyeball as much as you want to,because it would be the only way to figure it out

But right now all you’re doing now is reaching.
Anf nel isn’t even a 5 years old
She’s a freaking arrancar,one who was fast enough to intercept a cero and shoot it back.

"Considering that they got to the geographic center of Las Noches within a day after breaching the outer walls."

Ichigo got there while rushing in Bankai for an unknown amount of time. You know what I used as an example? Ichigo at mach 3, not even hypersonic, flying from one point of Las Noches to the center for 10 minutes. That’s like freaking impossibly low low low-end considering Orihime is mach 11 here and Ichigo’s in Bankai.

He did it in the time from when Aizen prepares to leave HM to FKT, to when all of the Fracciones fights were over. So I think giving Ichigo 10 minutes is fair.

We don’t even have to calc it

But you know what? I’m not gonna give Las Noches the size of America, so I’ll use Nel’s statement

Are you stupid?

Thats like saying that a human standing in front of a huge building is as big as it because of the perception.

Originally posted by HST Gambit
1)the three days statement was just to give us a sense of distance,and that sense would be lost if it was meant to be taken by nel or anyone in the verse’s speed or stamina

2)if you wanna argue that it was based on nel’s speed then i’ll argue that it was on bawawa’s speed since they were riding it,and i’ll get massively bigger numbers than texas
But we don’t do that because it was never stated on which speed we should take,thus taking our own pace to get a freaking SENSE OF DISTANCE

3)unless it was never stated or shown how big that thing is THEN you can eyeball as much as you want to,because it would be the only way to figure it out

But right now all you’re doing now is reaching.
Anf nel isn’t even a 5 years old
She’s a freaking arrancar,one who was fast enough to intercept a cero and shoot it back.

"Considering that they got to the geographic center of Las Noches within a day after breaching the outer walls."

Ichigo got there while rushing in Bankai for an unknown amount of time. You know what I used as an example? Ichigo at mach 3, not even hypersonic, flying from one point of Las Noches to the center for 10 minutes. That’s like freaking impossibly low low low-end considering Orihime is mach 11 here and Ichigo’s in Bankai.

He did it in the time from when Aizen prepares to leave HM to FKT, to when all of the Fracciones fights were over. So I think giving Ichigo 10 minutes is fair.

We don’t even have to calc it

But you know what? I’m not gonna give Las Noches the size of America, so I’ll use Nel’s statement

Are you stupid?

Thats like saying that a human standing in front of a huge building is as big as it because of the perception.

You have got to be the stupidest person on the planet.

1. Exactly, so assuming it's from a normal humans speed and endurance is just as silly.

2. Explain how. Bawawa's speed was obviously not that great either, considering that he was moving arguably as slow as the group was previously. They were riding him to have a break while moving. This is proven by the fact that Nel, Dondickchaka and Penesch were running by themselves before the group got there. 👆

Therefor, the only speed we can take to try calcing that would be Nel's.

3. Um, you can easily eye-ball it. It was comparable in size to Komomora's bankai, unless you're suggesting that Ichigo is as big as Komomora's bankai. That sand dude being as big as the LN pillars instantly proves that it's nowhere even comparable to one hundredth of Texas. 👆

Reaching?
Cero's are very slow. This was stated. They are slow enough for regular humans to dodge when they are aware of them. Not to mention that Nel didn't dodge shit, she opened her mouth and her Espada abilities reacted themselves on impulse.

Um, I didn't say that. It's true though.

Ichigo didn't start at the outer walls of LN, he flew from where he fought Grimmjow. Not to mention he was saving energy and no time frame was given from the time he actually took off to when he arrived, which could have been less than a minute.

Are you on crack? Orihime? Mach 11? puke

She is literally a normal human, aside from her rejection powers. She has no full bringer step, sonido, shunpo, hiraikotsu, or ANYTHING that lets her move faster than a normal human. She is literally as fast as you or me. Implying she's 11 times the speed of sound already shows how diluted you are.

"Are you stupid?" mmm

I don't think you, who claims normal humans to be mach 11 and a building that's never been even suggested to be even as big as a town, to be as large as the continent of America, has ANY right to even suggest something as ludicrously laughable as that.

Um, me standing in front of my house shows that I'm about a hundredth or two as large as it. That sand guy being about as big as a 16th of it shows that... LN is about as big as 16 of Komomora's bankai's, or not even close to town sized, let alone half of Texas sized. 👆

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Can someone just shut this guy up already? He won't stop unless someone crushes him.
I thought about it but his posts are barely legible man.

You have to be a semi-competent writer to justify my divine retribution. Those are the rules.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I thought about it but his posts are barely legible man.

You have to be a semi-competent writer to justify my divine retribution. Those are the rules.

Nah, you just know that you can't win this debate. There's no way you could possibly prove that Orihime isn't mach 11...

mmm

I'm kidding...

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
You have got to be the stupidest person on the planet.

1. Exactly, so assuming it's from a normal humans speed and endurance is just as silly.

2. Explain how. Bawawa's speed was obviously not that great either, considering that he was moving arguably as slow as the group was previously. They were riding him to have a break while moving. This is proven by the fact that Nel, Dondickchaka and Penesch were running by themselves before the group got there. 👆

Therefor, the only speed we can take to try calcing that would be Nel's.

3. Um, you can easily eye-ball it. It was comparable in size to Komomora's bankai, unless you're suggesting that Ichigo is as big as Komomora's bankai. That sand dude being as big as the LN pillars instantly proves that it's nowhere even comparable to one hundredth of Texas. 👆

Reaching?
Cero's are very slow. This was stated. They are slow enough for regular humans to dodge when they are aware of them. Not to mention that Nel didn't dodge shit, she opened her mouth and her Espada abilities reacted themselves on impulse.

Um, I didn't say that. It's true though.

Ichigo didn't start at the outer walls of LN, he flew from where he fought Grimmjow. Not to mention he was saving energy and no time frame was given from the time he actually took off to when he arrived, which could have been less than a minute.

Are you on crack? Orihime? Mach 11? puke

She is literally a normal human, aside from her rejection powers. She has no full bringer step, sonido, shunpo, hiraikotsu, or ANYTHING that lets her move faster than a normal human. She is literally as fast as you or me. Implying she's 11 times the speed of sound already shows how diluted you are.

"Are you stupid?" mmm

I don't think you, who claims normal humans to be mach 11 and a building that's never been even suggested to be even as big as a town, to be as large as the continent of America, has ANY right to even suggest something as ludicrously laughable as that.

Um, me standing in front of my house shows that I'm about a hundredth or two as large as it. That sand guy being about as big as a 16th of it shows that... LN is about as big as 16 of Komomora's bankai's, or not even close to town sized, let alone half of Texas sized. 👆

Anyway Orihime didn’t just react or outrun an explosion. It happened as follows:
-The guy besides her is detonated(he was the bomb)
-She realizes as light flashes her face
-She puts up her shield
-Jumps at Makizo who is lying on the floor, grabs him, and pulls him behind her shield. Uryuu also gets behind the shield
All before the explosion engulfs either of them

Calced at a minimum of mach 11 for Orihime iirc

And when does it even show the sand guy being the size of one of those pillars? Your scan def don't show that.

There have been normal humans in movies who have reacted/outran explosions. It's often not an legit feat. Sasuke summing a giant snake, putting a genjustu on it, and jumping in its mouth after a 10km bomb went off is a good example.

Btw, this guy is copy/pasting posts from multiple users at Lounge Moviecodec. HM being country size was debunked there.

Originally posted by Zamiel
There have been normal humans in movies who have reacted/outran explosions. It's often not an legit feat. Sasuke summing a giant snake, putting a genjustu on it, and jumping in its mouth after a 10km bomb went off is a good example.

Btw, this guy is copy/pasting posts from multiple users at Lounge Moviecodec. HM being country size was debunked there.

Yeah but there are also times when it is legit.

While that is true and I said I got it from externals it wouldn't change the face that there are good arguments for it.

It doesn't change the Orihime is mach 11 and that the sand guy was never shown to be near the size of a pillar.

The feat by Orihime is obviously not legit seeing as how she can't move faster than the human eye can see. Btw, it took a man 27 days to RUN across texas.

Originally posted by Zamiel
The feat by Orihime is obviously not legit seeing as how she can't move faster than the human eye can see. Btw, it took a man 27 days to RUN across texas.

Did that happen after he explosion feat? If so can u give me a scan.

I am aware of that. While not texas sized it is still quite large by the statement given.

The downplay is the scaling from pillars. however gogeta has failed to show a scan of the sandman in comparison to one to prove his scaling.

Originally posted by HST Gambit
Anyway Orihime didn’t just react or outrun an explosion. It happened as follows:
-The guy besides her is detonated(he was the bomb)
-She realizes as light flashes her face
-She puts up her shield
-Jumps at Makizo who is lying on the floor, grabs him, and pulls him behind her shield. Uryuu also gets behind the shield
All before the explosion engulfs either of them

Calced at a minimum of mach 11 for Orihime iirc

And when does it even show the sand guy being the size of one of those pillars? Your scan def don't show that.

Okay, I win. You just used anime only filler, so I hereby acknowledge your concession.

Even if that was cannon, the explosion wasn't expanding as she moved. It was beginning to detonate. Two very different things. That's still not any kind of quantifiable speed feat, as you can't tell how long it was before it actually detonated. 👆

You. Lose.

Ulquiorra's lanza is not even town level. Prove it in the next post, or this debate is over, and everyone will know how ****ing stupid you are.

Originally posted by HST Gambit
Did that happen after he explosion feat? If so can u give me a scan.

I am aware of that. While not texas sized it is still quite large by the statement given.

The downplay is the scaling from pillars. however gogeta has failed to show a scan of the sandman in comparison to one to prove his scaling.

Show a scan of Orihime moving faster than the human eye. In fact, I can show a scan of her running at top speed being normal human speed.

Here you see Orihime being so slow, even when moving as fast as she could, that she could barely catch Ichigo from his fall, and wouldn't have been able to if it weren't for her fairy barrettes. If a scan after this proves she was faster than a normal human, then please, by all means post it.

This is the sandman in comparison to a pillar, dumb phuck.

You can obviously see the pillar on his left, which is just a bit bigger than him. And yes, they are close to the palace.

Um hello that doesn't prove he is anywhere near the size of the pillar.

it's so far back of course it will look smaller or comparable. You can't even see where the pillar ends. He is not near one.

Originally posted by HST Gambit
Um hello that doesn't prove he is anywhere near the size of the pillar.

it's so far back of course it will look smaller or comparable. You can't even see where the pillar ends. He is not near one.

As you can see, the opening to LN isn't much larger than Ichigo. It being that big compared to the sand guy proves that they were already close.

You still haven't proved a single thing. You've posted no proof other than your own opinion.

If you calced LN to be half the size of Texas, then wouldn't the doors be city sized? Ichigo was not much smaller than them, so unless he's sky-scraper sized, LN is not even small town sized. 👆

Id say about small mountain or city level between those two

Originally posted by chasedown
Id say about small mountain or city level between those two

Small mountain, but not city level. I'd definitely say about small mountain or large hill size though. "Half of Texas" sized, lolol, pile

HST Gambit's post on Lounge Moviecodec.

I will explain myself.

A few months ago I tried to persuade the users on this forum to help me prove that Lanza is over town level. No one wanted to help me ;(

So i said I would go ahead with it either way so I made the thread at kmc to get started. However I did not really know what i was talking about. the posters in this thread were better than me and i was sure that if I can get better bleach supporters to beat them indirectly that my plan would work.

OBVIOUSLY that is not working out at all since they are being too persistent and mean.

Like he just said that the Orihime speed feat is filler.

And that the sand guy is comparable to a pillar when that is clearly not shown.

It’s just ridiculous and I really wanted to fight the downplay. on so many other forums bleach is downplayed to hell especially the OBD. Unfortunately the OBD is one of the biggest and everyone listens to them. So I fought the bleach fan base here would be good enough to combat it.

wow.

oh yeah, the OBD. how I miss that site; whenever I try to go there, the original character profiles and stuff are no longer found. thankfully they made a version 2 of it, but it's taking them some time to get it back up. to be expected given all of the info lost.