Can the Basilisk fang destroy the Ring ?

Started by quanchi11216 pages

Originally posted by Epicurus
Frazier gets knocked the phuck out by Aliz. Upon awakening in the hospital, he screams "He gave up! He gave up! I won!". I am the Ali to your Frazier.

The difference is one very strong-willed hobbit gave it up after being under its influence for decades and a prod from a powerful warlock. While one very week willed teenage mage was able to overcome the horcrux's influence in a matter of weeks. The difference is palpable and certainly not in the favor of the horcrux.

Gollum was obsessed with it even after losing it. He was obsessed for decades in fact. Obsessed enough to die in a lava pit with it. Proof of the Ring's powerful influence, which is orders of magnitude more potent than the horcrux's based on on-screen feats.

Gandalf fought and defeated a powerful dark creature in the form of the Balrog. Get back to me the day Voldemort achieves a similar feat with a similar creature like a Dementor or something.

I did and it was an awful blunder on your part, both then and now. The only thing more pathetic was your piss-poor attempts to save face and backtrack afterwards, lol.

Only because of his horcrux-connection. Which in itself has nothing to with how they tracked down the horcruxes, since they used their wits to do so. Not Harry's special psychic strap-on with Voldemort. Not to mention that Voldemort was deploying occlumency to shut off his mind from Harry's gaze by Half-Blood Prince.

Prove that the curse was put on it by Voldemort. It was a Gaunt heirloom, and considering that the Gaunts were active practitioners and collectors of dark magic and dark objects, it's more likely that it was cursed a long time back.

Weakness exploitation isn't proof of power, mon ami. Or you believe that Sue Storm can damage Galactus because she damages Celestials?

Frazier also beat Ali. 😂

Duration is a huge black mark against the ring. Years of influence is greater than weeks so giving it up easily with a scare shows how weak the ring is, honestly.

Yes, he was obsessed but still lost it due to lack of attention. That isn't very awesome for someone to casually lose something they were obsessed with.

We see multiple wizards even Harry defeat many Dementors. I can't believe you honestly think defeating Dementors is hard for high end wizards. You're really kind of slow tbh. 😂

Gandalf also died. 😂 Harry defeated many Dementors. 😂

Harry peered into his mind in the final film. He also had aid. Ignoring all these crucial details in order to argue illogically is childish. Voldemort was more successful than Sauron. It isn't even remotely close tbh.

I could prove it but I'd rather let you stew in your ignorance. This is as bad as prove Sookie didn't use the super nova attack early on. I still laugh at your lack of comprehension with something so low on the intelligence scale you failed to grasp.

Basilisk power is power hence it could destroy Horcruxes. It wasn't weakness exploitation.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Frazier also beat Ali. 😂

Duration is a huge black mark against the ring. Years of influence is greater than weeks so giving it up easily with a scare shows how weak the ring is, honestly.

Yes, he was obsessed but still lost it due to lack of attention. That isn't very awesome for someone to casually lose something they were obsessed with.

We see multiple wizards even Harry defeat many Dementors. I can't believe you honestly think defeating Dementors is hard for high end wizards. You're really kind of slow tbh. 😂

Gandalf also died. 😂 Harry defeated many Dementors. 😂

Harry peered into his mind in the final film. He also had aid. Ignoring all these crucial details in order to argue illogically is childish. Voldemort was more successful than Sauron. It isn't even remotely close tbh.

I could prove it but I'd rather let you stew in your ignorance. This is as bad as prove Sookie didn't use the super nova attack early on. I still laugh at your lack of comprehension with something so low on the intelligence scale you failed to grasp.

Basilisk power is power hence it could destroy Horcruxes. It wasn't weakness exploitation.

🙂


Not in their rematches he didn't. 2 out of 3, baby. 2 out of 3. Ali was the Cain Velasquez to Frazier's Junior Dos Santos, lol.

False. Utterly and blatantly false. The fact that the Ring's influence lasted as long as it did is a feat in itself. No horcrux can claim as big of lasting effect as the Ring did. Decades vs a few weeks, decades wins every single time.

Yet he did everything in his power to regain it. Which he did, and he died with it. Goes to show the powerful dark pull of the Ring, and how inescapable it is for strong-willed creatures like Bilbo, let alone the weak-minded Gollum.

Nope, we don't. Only the goody 2 shoes wizards capable of producing a patronus could do so, and Harry's patronus was portrayed as being the brightest and most powerful of the bunch. Heck, Rowling who served as producer for the final 2 movies, herself mentioned in an off-panel interview that Death Eaters in general can't cast a patronus charm. The Dementors are portrayed as being the most dangerous creatures in HP lore. Harry feared them more than he feared Voldy himself.

Defeating the Balrog is still a great showing for Gandalf. Only when he was at a distance away and safe from them. Otherwise he feared them as his boggart itself showed, lol.

He didn't do so to locate the horcruxes. They did that on their own. Harry's psychic stuff was also involuntary and unintentional.

Since you can't prove it, I happily accept your concession.

Nope, it's weakness exploitation just as patronuses are weakness exploitation for Dementors. You don't even know the basics of how the movie-verse you're arguing for works. LOL.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Basilisk power is power hence it could destroy Horcruxes.

But the One Ring is not a horcrux. It's the One Ring 😐

Originally posted by Epicurus
Not in their rematches he didn't. 2 out of 3, baby. 2 out of 3. Ali was the Cain Velasquez to Frazier's Junior Dos Santos, lol.

False. Utterly and blatantly false. The fact that the Ring's influence lasted as long as it did is a feat in itself. No horcrux can claim as big of lasting effect as the Ring did. Decades vs a few weeks, decades wins every single time.

Yet he did everything in his power to regain it. Which he did, and he died with it. Goes to show the powerful dark pull of the Ring, and how inescapable it is for strong-willed creatures like Bilbo, let alone the weak-minded Gollum.

Nope, we don't. Only the goody 2 shoes wizards capable of producing a patronus could do so, and Harry's patronus was portrayed as being the brightest and most powerful of the bunch. Heck, Rowling who served as producer for the final 2 movies, herself mentioned in an off-panel interview that Death Eaters in general can't cast a patronus charm. The Dementors are portrayed as being the most dangerous creatures in HP lore. Harry feared them more than he feared Voldy himself.

Defeating the Balrog is still a great showing for Gandalf. Only when he was at a distance away and safe from them. Otherwise he feared them as his boggart itself showed, lol.

He didn't do so to locate the horcruxes. They did that on their own. Harry's psychic stuff was also involuntary and unintentional.

Since you can't prove it, I happily accept your concession.

Nope, it's weakness exploitation just as patronuses are weakness exploitation for Dementors. You don't even know the basics of how the movie-verse you're arguing for works. LOL.

he still beat him and Ali barely beat him the other times. Who cares.

If someone had to wear the Horcruxes for that long I see no reason why not. The ring was resisted after years of influence. 😂 no matter how badly you try you can't escape it.

It shows how easily it can be resisted by Bilbo and how quickly Gollum can forget about it.

So you're saying the great Voldemort can't stop one Dementor ?

😂

Rowling can have her opinion but she isn't the director nor did every scene from the book play out the same way in the films. Horrible.

People feared Voldemort far more than Dementors. Don't eve compare the two. Voldemort was the great wizard so to pretend one Dementor can defeat him is ridiculous.

No, it wasn't. Gandalf died so it was not that great of an accomplishment.

Harry still peered into his mind in the final film. Quit pretending he didn't. He clearly did along with a lot of help.

No, it is great power. At no point is it weakness exploitation. Silly claim.

The basilisk venom is power not weakness exploitation.

You just make things up due to your lack of comprehension skills.

Originally posted by Lestov16
But the One Ring is not a horcrux. It's the One Ring 😐
The ring has weaker resistance feats than the Horcruxes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The ring has weaker resistance feats than the Horcruxes.

With no evidence while riding the assumption, and yet the Horcruxes resisted nothing spectacular either, and the venom that did destroy them couldn't kill a child quickly at all, pathetic.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
With no evidence while riding the assumption, and yet the Horcruxes resisted nothing spectacular either, and the venom that did destroy them couldn't kill a child quickly at all, pathetic.
They resisted greater force than the axe.

That was the poison itself. The poison doesn't have to kill immediately but the lava from Mount Doom didn't kill an anorexic hobbit and he was submerged in it. M

Throw that much poison on the hobbit and dies immediately.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
They resisted greater force than the axe.

And so did the Ring, and not only that, the ring destroyed it. Whats your point?

Originally posted by quanchi112
That was the poison itself. The poison doesn't have to kill immediately but the lava from Mount Doom didn't kill an anorexic hobbit and he was submerged in it. M

Throw that much poison on the hobbit and dies immediately.

😂

This is an assumption, and incorrect, Gollum died.

Originally posted by quanchi112
the lava from Mount Doom didn't kill an anorexic hobbit and he was submerged in it.

How did this thread get past this answer?

Originally posted by Firefly218
I dont think you understood. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING can destroy the ring, including normal fire and lava, except for the lava in Mt. Doom.

Why the phuck do you think Frodo spent 3 movies traveling to Mt. Doom?

It's a Quan thread. What do you expect?

Originally posted by Lestov16
It's a Quan thread. What do you expect?

Yeah.... all one has to mention is that Quan is involved.

Basically put, he will try to find any conceivable means to try and lowball anything he perceives as against his side, using the most illogical, nonsensical means, even if it makes him look like a total dumbass in the process.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
And so did the Ring, and not only that, the ring destroyed it. Whats your point?

This is an assumption, and incorrect, Gollum died.

I left out the word immediately. I know Gollum died but it took some time. We already discussed this in another thread.

The ring hasn't resisted greater force than an axe though is the point. Potter wizards don't swing weak axes at Horcruxes.

Originally posted by Stoic
How did this thread get past this answer?
The Basilisk fang doesn't exist in the Lotr universe so that logic only applies to other items in the Lotr universe not the VoldeVerse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I left out the word immediately. I know Gollum died but it took some time. We already discussed this in another thread.

It took less than a second, your denial of this is assertion, not fact. The ring lasted far longer, while a Horcrux gets immediately destroyed by a delapitated piece of bone or a sword strike.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The ring hasn't resisted greater force than an axe though is the point. Potter wizards don't swing weak axes at Horcruxes.

No, they throw weak ass spells around, the greatest resistance feat? what basically amounts to a few thrown pebbles at the locket.

Lets compare the comparable feat then Quan, The sword of Gryffindor destroys horcruxes, but Gimli's axe was not only resisted, but it destroyed the axe in the attempt.

I repeat, the Horcrux gets destroyed, while the Ring destroys...

I know you'll shout "But context!" however, you seem to ignore such context when you go ahead and claim "Only Axe Durability!" when I tell you about the lava, and the magic of the ring protecting it from any harm outside of where it was made, so yeah, context, you should educate yourself on it, immediately.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
It took less than a second, your denial of this is assertion, not fact. The ring lasted far longer, while a Horcrux gets immediately destroyed by a delapitated piece of bone or a sword strike.

No, they throw weak ass spells around, the greatest resistance feat? what basically amounts to a few thrown pebbles at the locket.

Lets compare the comparable feat then Quan, The sword of Gryffindor destroys horcruxes, but Gimli's axe was not only resisted, but it destroyed the axe in the attempt.

I repeat, the Horcrux gets destroyed, while the Ring destroys...

I know you'll shout "But context!" however, you seem to ignore such context when you go ahead and claim "Only Axe Durability!" when I tell you about the lava, and the magic of the ring protecting it from any harm outside of where it was made, so yeah, context, you should educate yourself on it, immediately.

I posted the video with the proof it took longer than a second. You're living in your own world.

Potter magic wrecks much more stable and durable structures than axes. Try and be serious. This is getting absurd on your end.

Sword of Gryffyndor has greater power or feats than the axe. Potter magic is far greater than Lotr magic based off feats and comparisons.

Harry Potter verse has shit destructive capacity tho

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Harry Potter verse has shit destructive capacity tho
Completely untrue. In the Lotr universe an army of 10,000 Uruk Hai can't even break Helms Deep. In the potter universe around 50 Deatheaters would have annihilated the higher ground and crushed this pathetic resistance.

Except they were, until Gandalf and the Rohirrim arrived

Prove it then

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Except they were, until Gandalf and the Rohirrim arrived

Prove it then

They didn't break Helms Deep due to the backup absolutely decimating the Uruk Hai.

Prove what.