Originally posted by abhilegend
Sonic booms don't happen with strength. That's what lowballing means. We saw Zod's missed haymaker create a sonic boom too.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_boom
[b]A sonic boom is the sound associated with the shock waves created by an object traveling through the air faster than the speed of sound.
Now tell me where did you get the idea that the booms were created by strength rather than speed as shown in the movie. [/B]
Honestly, I don't see a sonic boom with the gif that you put. Just a blur.
I didn't say that sonic booms were produced by strength. But shockwaves can be produced by impact instead of just velocity. This is pure common sense. And maybe I'm wrong, but IIRC, their punches were producing shockwaves upon impact instead of upon throwing the punch.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Now you're just being an idiot. How does one produce a shockwave with just swinging his arm?http://i.imgur.com/NSrBjQE.gif
I can tell they were meant to be sonic booms because every time superman went to supersonic speed in the movie it was shown as that effect.
Its like you are going ass forward with your stupid stance that superman didn't have any superspeed so any and all evidence regarding that is invalid because you said so.
So where's the sonic boom in that gif? I see a blur. And whoever said that Superman doesn't have superspeed? I certainly never said that. All I said was they don't have combat superspeed, or if they have it they certainly never used it.
Lol ppl are so trolling this thread. sonic booms and all that bullshit. Fight starts. Supes thinks about charging them at the same time peter and sylar think to stop time. Time stop happens instantaneously. Thus peter and sylar have a huge advantage and precede to do whatever they want. Time stops before thor and supes can do any real damage. Thread/
Originally posted by wallman77
Lol ppl are so trolling this thread. sonic booms and all that bullshit. Fight starts. Supes thinks about charging them at the same time peter and sylar think to stop time. Time stop happens instantaneously. Thus peter and sylar have a huge advantage and precede to do whatever they want. Time stops before thor and supes can do any real damage. Thread/
Agreed.
Originally posted by FrothByte
So where's the sonic boom in that gif? I see a blur. And whoever said that Superman doesn't have superspeed? I certainly never said that. All I said was they don't have combat superspeed, or if they have it they certainly never used it.
I just cropped the gif to show that Zod's missed punch created a sonic boom too.
Then you're an idiot, superman and zod were punching faster than sound. That's what combat superspeed is and your denial is becoming trolling at this point.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Honestly, I don't see a sonic boom with the gif that you put. Just a blur.I didn't say that sonic booms were produced by strength. But shockwaves can be produced by impact instead of just velocity. This is pure common sense. And maybe I'm wrong, but IIRC, their punches were producing shockwaves upon impact instead of upon throwing the punch.
Originally posted by wallman77
Lol ppl are so trolling this thread. sonic booms and all that bullshit. Fight starts. Supes thinks about charging them at the same time peter and sylar think to stop time. Time stop happens instantaneously. Thus peter and sylar have a huge advantage and precede to do whatever they want. Time stops before thor and supes can do any real damage. Thread/
Originally posted by wallman77
Lol ppl are so trolling this thread. sonic booms and all that bullshit. Fight starts. Supes thinks about charging them at the same time peter and sylar think to stop time. Time stop happens instantaneously. Thus peter and sylar have a huge advantage and precede to do whatever they want. Time stops before thor and supes can do any real damage. Thread/
Problems then arise because Superman's reactions are faster than a human's.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Who is talking about the fight? I was just talking to this moron who thinks swinging your arm creates shockwaves or strength can create sonic booms.
Which guy is that? Hitting something which creates a strong impact creates a shockwave. Not the arm swinging. Please stop inventing stuff up. No one ever said strong arm swinging creates shockwaves.
Originally posted by abhilegend
In this scene there certainly are many sonic booms.I just cropped the gif to show that Zod's missed punch created a sonic boom too.
Then you're an idiot, superman and zod were punching faster than sound. That's what combat superspeed is and your denial is becoming trolling at this point.
You need glasses, they were sonic booms as shown in the flight of superman earlier in the film. To quote Nemebro "you're an idiot".
There were shockwaves when their punches hit, therefore it was shockwaves made by the impact. Not once did you see a sonic boom created just by swinging a punch. IF that was true, we should have heard it, a big "BOOM" should have sounded because that's what happens with a sonic boom. Now show me where an actual boom is heard after the kryptonians swing a punch and I'll believe you.
You need to calm down and properly analyze my arguments before answering, because it seems as if I'm getting under the skin of your fanatic fanboyism. They were throwing punches faster than the speed of sound? Hah. I wonder why we could see the punches then.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Your argument is that Superman can only fight as fast as a human being.There is literally not a single person in this thread who should consider a word you have to say.
No, my argument was that they only seem to use superspeed when performing simple maneuvers like flying/running in a straight line, delivering a single punch in a bull rush, etc.
We have not seen them use superspeed in any complex maneuvers, like zig zagging through obstacles, ducking/dodging multiple bullets, stringing together multiple punch combos, etc.
Still waiting for you to prove me wrong.
Originally posted by FrothByte
No, my argument was that they only seem to use superspeed when performing simple maneuvers like flying/running in a straight line, delivering a single punch in a bull rush, etc.We have not seen them use superspeed in any complex maneuvers, like zig zagging through obstacles, ducking/dodging multiple bullets, stringing together multiple punch combos, etc.
Still waiting for you to prove me wrong.
I'm sorry, what was that again?
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroI'm sorry, what was that again?
I'm sorry, what's that post supposed to prove? She zips at super speed up to a guy, punches him in normal speed, zips to another with super speed, punches in normal speed, rinse and repeat. If she truly could use superspeed at all instances, why not just zip through them all in a flash. Her having to stop (even very miniscule) every time she hits someone shows that she's incapable of stringing together combinations at consistent super speed.
Don't get me wrong, it was still a very impressive feat, but it still just shows them having great mobile speed.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm sorry, what's that post supposed to prove? She zips at super speed up to a guy, punches him in normal speed, zips to another with super speed, punches in normal speed, rinse and repeat. If she truly could use superspeed at all instances, why not just zip through them all in a flash. Her having to stop (even very miniscule) every time she hits someone shows that she's incapable of stringing together combinations at consistent super speed.Don't get me wrong, it was still a very impressive feat, but it still just shows them having great mobile speed.
I believe it disproves this part of your statement:
Originally posted by FrothByte
We have not seen them use superspeed in any complex maneuvers, like zig zagging through obstacles, ducking/dodging multiple bullets.
So, unless your looking for Anime styled DBZ like speed, you'd be hard pressed to define super speed in any meaningful way. you know, things like weight, inertia, velocity and other things all still play a role.
In fact, if you consider, the only time she slows down is when the impacts actually occur, not when she is swinging the punches. These are actually more consistent with actual definitions of how super speed would actually work, rather than the near weightless impacts and physics seen in anime portrayals.
