Originally posted by Epicurus
Spider-Man goes about tanking punishment from trans tier characters all the time? What crack are you on?
It doesn't matter the tier. Thanks for dodging the point completely. You know I thats not what I was talking about. Taking on guys out of his weight class is what Spidey has done his whole history. Can't believe I have to spell it out.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Seriously, the spider-wankery on full display in this thread is outright appalling. The mental gymnastics, denial of evidence, the blatant hypocrisy of citing PIS feats, usage of cover pages as "proof" etc is every bit as bad as the crap which people like Wolverine fanboys pull off from time to time.
Funny because I haven't heard one feasible way She-hulk would win outside of fourth wall shenanigans.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
There are a lot of guys spidey fights who could win via thunderclap but really, how often do these guys utilize it? It would be very hard to thunderclap when you're covered in webbing.P.s. The last guy who incapacitated Spidey with a thunder clap was an amped Colossus(a lot stronger than she hulk with a deafening metallic ring to boot) so I'm not so sure its an auto win for her anyway.
T-claps have a good history against Spidey. And this is a forum setting, where the "how often...?" question becomes irrelevant. Have they? Yes? Then they do so here for a clear win.
Originally posted by leonidas
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Originally posted by Epicurus
Seriously, the spider-wankery on full display in this thread is outright appalling. The mental gymnastics, denial of evidence, the blatant hypocrisy of citing PIS feats, usage of cover pages as "proof" etc is every bit as bad as the crap which people like Wolverine fanboys pull off from time to time.
Originally posted by Digi
T-claps have a good history against Spidey. And this is a forum setting, where the "how often...?" question becomes irrelevant. Have they? Yes? Then they do so here for a clear win.😂
Slippery slope. Does that mean Thor gets to soul suck and Surfer gets to put singularities in people every match? If it's something that's not really in character, then it can be argued it probably won't happen.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I would say that Shulkie is about 5x stronger than Spidey considering their feats. It's realistic to hurt beings above your weight class. A kid can really hurt a man that's 5x stronger. It's also realistic in comics too. Batman, daredevil, Captain America, Thing, Rhino, Aquaman, Black Panther, etc have all hurt beings more than 5x stronger.
Problem is, if we allow obvious PIS moments of Spiderman hurting people way above his weight class - which, let's face it, are PIS moments - then She-Hulk gets her numerous PIS moments as well of hurting people way above her weight class. Such as being tactical and clever enough to change the Living Tribunal's mind, punching Mistress Death out etc.The double standards here are quite funny. On the one hand, Spidey, who holds his own against people he, as a Class 20, has no business fighting.....against She Hulk, who, as a Class 100, holds her own against people she has no business fighting.
Also Spidey has plenty of feats against objects that are above 50 tons that back up the times he hurt beings stronger than him. So I don't accept those moments as PIS moments for him.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
Slippery slope. Does that mean Thor gets to soul suck and Surfer gets to put singularities in people every match? If it's something that's not really in character, then it can be argued it probably won't happen.
It's only a slippery slope if you allow yourself to fall to more absurd positions. Thor soul sucking is NOT the same as Jen t-clapping. Would you disagree?
Originally posted by JayDaDon
If its a tactic as commonly used as lets say, spidey's webs or even close, then maybe it's viable. I haven't seen any class 70 to 80 characters hurt spidey with a thunderclap but maybe it's happened, I can't recall.
Thing has done it, low-level incarnations of the Hulk have done it. I think Juggernaut has as well. Hurting him isn't the issue. Messing with his equilibrium is. It dazes him, which then gives the brick a chance to lay into Pete.
Spidey uses his webs all the damn time. Surely the threshold for using an ability in a forum match is lower, yes?
Originally posted by DigiGrey Hulk hit him with a thunder clap, then followed it up with a haymaker in Incredible Hulk 349. Spider-man was back in the fight in literally the very next panel looking no worse for wear. I don't think a t clap is winning it for She Hulk.
Thing has done it, low-level incarnations of the Hulk have done it. I think Juggernaut has as well. Hurting him isn't the issue. Messing with his equilibrium is. It dazes him, which then gives the brick a chance to lay into Pete.Spidey uses his webs all the damn time. Surely the threshold for using an ability in a forum match is lower, yes?
Edit: Carver, Hulk was amped in that scene. I believe he had some sort of gamma virus or something.
Depends on how strong She-Hulk is. Some incarnations, Spider-Man would hurt his own hands punching, others he could probably wear down with an all-out assault.
Normally, I'd take Jen as she's a lot stronger and has ways to counter the speed. But let's not count Peter out, he can be crazy strong under some writers and has a nice agility/speed advantage.
Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't amped.
Originally posted by Digi
Thing has done it, low-level incarnations of the Hulk have done it. I think Juggernaut has as well. Hurting him isn't the issue. Messing with his equilibrium is. It dazes him, which then gives the brick a chance to lay into Pete.Spidey uses his webs all the damn time. Surely the threshold for using an ability in a forum match is lower, yes?
Which is why I said or anywhere near.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
Funny because I haven't heard one feasible way She-hulk would win outside of fourth wall shenanigans.
Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. Fanboyish wankery is fanboyish wankery. To pretend that Spider-Man somehow magically transformed into this Squirrel Girlish character whom more powerful opponents simply can't beat in a forum fight is downright disgusting.
Awful.👇
Originally posted by JayDaDon
It doesn't matter the tier. Thanks for dodging the point completely. You know I thats not what I was talking about. Taking on guys out of his weight class is what Spidey has done his whole history. Can't believe I have to spell it out.
So tell me; is it common for Spider-Man to take all-out assaults from trans tier characters.
