First Born vs Superman

Started by h1a87 pages

Actual feats>>>>>>>> Any writer's comments.
Superman has feats of bench-pressing the Earth. It takes more force to lift a planet than to destroy it. This is common sense.
But again, Superman is not going to unleash that type of strength in general. Only in critical situations will he do so (like ripping DD apart).

Originally posted by h1a8
Actual feats>>>>>>>> Any writer's comments.
Superman has feats of bench-pressing the Earth. It takes more force to lift a planet than to destroy it. This is common sense.
But again, Superman is not going to unleash that type of strength in general. Only in critical situations will he do so (like ripping DD apart).
He was benching on a machine that some unknown woman claimed was the weight of the planet, superman never benched the Earth itself and actual feats thereafter shows that that woman may have been lying. Funny how you take the word of a unknown comic character and try and dismiss the words of of superman and the writer because its not to your liking... Some unknown woman makes a claim and its all gravy because you like it...... But then out of superman's own mouth and the writers intents, comes a statement you dont like so you get all twisted. Also, it takes FAR FAR more strength to destroy something than lifting it. go lift a watermelon and then try and crush it and see which requires the most force. 😛

Originally posted by JBL
He was benching on a machine that some unknown woman claimed was the weight of the planet, superman never benched the Earth itself and actual feats thereafter shows that that woman may have been lying. Funny how you take the word of a unknown comic character and try and dismiss the words of of superman and the writer because its not to your liking... Some unknown woman makes a claim and its all gravy because you like it...... But then out of superman's own mouth and the writers intents, comes a statement you dont like so you get all twisted. Also, it takes FAR FAR more strength to destroy something than lifting it. go lift a watermelon and then try and crush it and see which requires the most force. 😛

That "unknown woman" was a bigshot scientist.😬

I guess that the asteroid which Grey Hulk destroyed was wasn't twice the size of the Earth since unknown people claimed it was. 🙄

Originally posted by Epicurus
That "unknown woman" was a bigshot scientist.😬

I guess that the asteroid which Grey Hulk destroyed was wasn't twice the size of the Earth since unknown people claimed it was. 🙄

He's mocking h1's logic (I think....) of dismissing Superman and Wonder Woman saying only Darkseid can destroy a world while using the planet benching feat as a conclusive benchmark of power.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He's mocking h1's logic (I think....) of dismissing Superman and Wonder Woman saying only Darkseid can destroy a world while using the planet benching feat as a conclusive benchmark of power.

Nah, h1 was referencing writer statements, not character statements in his post.

JBL wasn't trying to showcase h1 the inevitable faulty nature of his logic. JBL was doing what JBL does; use any instance as an excuse to piss all over Superman and DC chars in general.

Both H1 & JBL are wrong.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Both H1 & JBL are wrong.

👆

Originally posted by Epicurus
Nah, h1 was referencing writer statements, not character statements in his post.

JBL wasn't trying to showcase h1 the inevitable faulty nature of his logic. JBL was doing what JBL does; use any instance as an excuse to piss all over Superman and DC chars in general.

Not even close. The asteriod that grey hulk destroyed was seen, get it? seen. The people did not say that grey hulk hit some machine with enough force to destroy an object twice the size of earth, hulk destroyed the actual asteriod. Superman did not bench the actual earth, so a statement was made and people ran with it as fact... Now a statement comes along that none of the JLA members have enough strength to destroy a world and all of a sudden statements NOW means nothing and are dismissed. So its ok to accept that womans statement because it make superman look good right? But low and behold the statement that superman is not strong or powerful enough to destroy a world is sooooo heartbreaking to you that its considered pissing on superman and DC characters right? As long as the feat or statement puts a smile on supes fans face its ok to rant about them huh? But it hurts when the feats or statement that his fans dont like get mentioned huh? Seems to me this is the classic case of if its superman, we must treat all his threads as if its his Respect thread. Only the good feats and statements count and the hell with what his fans dont like huh? Got it, thanks for pointing that out 😉

Originally posted by JBL
Not even close. The asteriod that grey hulk destroyed was seen, get it? seen. The people did not say that grey hulk hit some machine with enough force to destroy an object twice the size of earth, hulk destroyed the actual asteriod. Superman did not bench the actual earth, so a statement was made and people ran with it as fact... Now a statement comes along that none of the JLA members have enough strength to destroy a world and all of a sudden statements NOW means nothing and are dismissed. So its ok to accept that womans statement because it make superman look good right? But low and behold the statement that superman is not strong or powerful enough to destroy a world is sooooo heartbreaking to you that its considered pissing on superman and DC characters right? As long as the feat or statement puts a smile on supes fans face its ok to rant about them huh? But it hurts when the feats or statement that his fans dont like get mentioned huh? Seems to me this is the classic case of if its superman, we must treat all his threads as if its his Respect thread. Only the good feats and statements count and the hell with what his fans dont like huh? Got it, thanks for pointing that out 😉

It was seen through big ass telescopes. Which are machines, technically speaking.

Which in turn makes you a hypocritical moron, technically speaking.

Originally posted by Epicurus
It was seen through big ass telescopes. Which are machines, technically speaking.

Which in turn makes you a hypocritical moron, technically speaking.

Insults have ever been the defeated last resort, concession accepted and filed under butthurt case number 32876. 😉

Originally posted by JBL
Insults have ever been the defeated last resort, concession accepted and filed under butthurt case number 32876. 😉

😂

Anyways, Firstborn wins.

Guys, get back on topic. Now.

The "only Darkseid can destroy a world" thing, is pointless, and isn't usable as fact, because it's a character statement, and characters within comics are faillible.

There's enough evidence from both companies to back that up, so please, move on.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it wasn't. She sealed it by herself. Mongul/Non weren't able to even slow down the rift because they were weakened.

Means very little. Two top tiers doing something would look casual, its nothing to do with individual strength.

She did it and its Pak. Its always simple for him.

Breaching=/=closing.

And Doomsday is definitely FAR above top tier.


Gotta be kidding me with this. 🙁

Reminds me of the time you actually tried to argue that Supes was the only one pulling in this situation. It was almost as if you were blind to any other character on the page. 😂

Anyways... Still taking First Born.