Originally posted by carver9
I read that sentence completely different than what you all are reading it and no, I'm not 5alking about hours and minutes. I'm acting lazy and I don't want to look for the scan, so you van squash it.
"5alking?" "You van squash it?" Carter, it's morning and you're already drunk. Time for an intervention.
Originally posted by carver9
I read that sentence completely different than what you all are reading it and no, I'm not 5alking about hours and minutes. I'm acting lazy and I don't want to look for the scan, so you van squash it.
Trolls feed on typos. Carver. Try not to feed them so they can fall back.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You mean in your peckerwood wet dream? Marvel kicks D.C. in every conceivable category. I loved how hyped you all got when D.C. outsold Marvel a couple of weeks out of the last several decades. You all acted like you won the lottery. So is Afterbirth over yet, you guys have been rather quiet lately?
DC has bragging rights on Batman, though. Pretty much the benchmark for comic sales.
They wish every ip sold half as well.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Most you can assume? No idiot, that's actually the LEAST you can assume. If it was two galaxies, why wouldn't he say just that? But you did what people do when they lowball- it suited your agenda. You pulled an Abby, congrats.
My dear short bus riding,hemorrhoidal idiot, you cannot give a higher number than 2 because that is the only way to calc it. Anything more is creeping into no limits fallacy and what have you.
So yes, it is the *most* you can assume. And that is standard fare for any calculation. Conservative numbers.
I'm sure its hard for you to understand and i'm sure you want to pin some kind of conspiracy theory of DC bias or some shit on this thought process, but sadly it just applies to every thing.
Example; Lobo once compacted a city into the size of a sugar cube. Narration said it was trillions of tons. How much did i say lobo was holding in his palm when wanting to put a figure on it? Thats right, 2 trillion. 🙂 Because thats all i could assume.
Now kindly shut your dumb, hypertension havin ass up or contribute to this thread constructively.
Give surfer some feats or concede.
I ask again: why is everyone so fixated on the f*cking Korea feat? Wally has SEVERAL other FTL feats to his name... Many of which have already been posted.
On the other hand, I have seen absolutely NO evidence to substantiate the claim that Surfer can beat Wally in a race... None at all. At this point the Surfer faction are just trolling, me thinks.
Originally posted by Galan007There are feats, just read the forums, nobody is going to spoon feed them to you trolls 🙄
I ask again: why is everyone so fixated on the f*cking Korea feat? Wally has SEVERAL other FTL feats to his name... Many of which have already been posted.On the other hand, I have seen absolutely NO evidence to substantiate the claim that Surfer can beat Wally in a race... None at all. At this point the Surfer faction are just trolling, me thinks.
The S. Korea thing has been settled more or less, the anti-faction for that feat have not been able to counter the fact that 99% lightspeed would be FAR too slow for the feat too occur. It would have taken him close to 2 minutes to complete the feat.
Everyone would have been ashes.
The writer just cocked up the simple math, we can do our own. Just like Mcduffie cocked up the math for the moon's weight. It happens.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
My dear short bus riding,hemorrhoidal idiot, you cannot give a higher number than 2 because that is the only way to calc it. Anything more is creeping into no limits fallacy and what have you.So yes, it is the *most* you can assume. And that is standard fare for any calculation. Conservative numbers.
I'm sure its hard for you to understand and i'm sure you want to pin some kind of conspiracy theory of DC bias or some shit on this thought process, but sadly it just applies to every thing.
Example; Lobo once compacted a city into the size of a sugar cube. Narration said it was trillions of tons. How much did i say lobo was holding in his palm when wanting to put a figure on it? Thats right, 2 trillion. 🙂 Because thats all i could assume.
Now kindly shut your dumb, hypertension havin ass up or contribute to this thread constructively.
Give surfer some feats or concede.
You're weak insults aside, I didn't assign a number. Don't tell me not to do something I didn't do. Second, two galaxies would be the low end limit like I said and that's not the same as saying or inferring that he flew past an infinite number of galaxies. You can stop with the verbal gymnastics and keep your no limits fallacy in your pocket. From a common sense standpoint, if it were just two galaxies, he would have likely said he flew from other galaxy to the currently galaxy. Also, you do know there are an unknown # of galaxies, correct? Look at this pic:
Now, if he flew through even a small portion of this frame in the span of a blink, he is traveling at unquantifiable speed, PERIOD. The other aspect that is significant to me is the manner in which he casually mentions his feat and begins fighting without a hint of fatigue. This suggests he was no where near his speed limit. I look at that vs. how Flash often does show fatigue and also struggles with his speed based rogues.
Originally posted by Galan007
I ask again: why is everyone so fixated on the f*cking Korea feat? Wally has SEVERAL other FTL feats to his name... Many of which have already been posted.On the other hand, I have seen absolutely NO evidence to substantiate the claim that Surfer can beat Wally in a race... None at all. At this point the Surfer faction are just trolling, me thinks.
Yup. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
I ask again: why is everyone so fixated on the f*cking Korea feat? Wally has SEVERAL other FTL feats to his name... Many of which have already been posted.On the other hand, I have seen absolutely NO evidence to substantiate the claim that Surfer can beat Wally in a race... None at all. At this point the Surfer faction are just trolling, me thinks.
I've also asked, several times, actually, for Surfer feats to contrast and compare.
We know how crap Wally's feats have been - surely Surfer has some nice quantifiable feats that show beyond a shadow of a doubt, clearly, how fast he can go.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You're weak insults aside, I didn't assign a number. Don't tell me not to do something I didn't do. Second, two galaxies would be the low end limit like I said and that's not the same as saying or inferring that he flew past an infinite number of galaxies. You can stop with the verbal gymnastics and keep your no limits fallacy in your pocket.
*Your.
And that's a complete lie on your part, sadly. You did try to assign a number, and you pulled it out of thin air:
You tried to pass off the figure of Gladiator crossing 'billions of light years' even though that was never stated anywhere, and apparently not knowing that our own universe is only estimated at ~90 billion light years in diameter.
Or perhaps worse, you did know all that and wanted carte blanche to just assume as high a number as you could imagine; a free pass to say Gladiator covered a significant portion of the universe.
Too bad on the low end, Galaxies are only hundreds of light years in diameter.
Not even hundreds of thousands (like our own Milky way, which is 100,000, though they can get up to a couple mill), but just mere hundreds for the smaller ones.
Sorry chum. We CAN quantify a minimum, and that minimum doesn't cut the mustard to stand up against the best.
For the sake of completion though, I often see calcs with uncertain upper ends given a 2x cap just to account for a range of uncertainty, which still keeps it within the same magnitude and thus keeps it conservative.
So if you'd like, we can assume it was 2 to 4 galaxies crossed in the blink of an eye.
A great feat for any top tier to have. But not even close to the best. I'm sorry, but that's just being objective.
From a common sense standpoint, if it were just two galaxies, he would have likely said he flew from other galaxy to the currently galaxy.
Not really. Your rewording is not at all at odds with what we are given.
Also, by the art given, Baldur was only looking a galaxy away. We see the swirl of a reddish galaxy in the cosmos, and then you see that reddish swirl in greater detail in his eyes in the very next panel.
Also, you do know there are an unknown # of galaxies, correct?
Not really. We have a quantified estimate for the diameter of the universe and how many galaxies it could contain.
Look at this pic:
I'm looking. What relevance does it contain? Does it mark where Gladiator started and ended?
Now, if he flew through even a small portion of this frame in the span of a blink, he is traveling at unquantifiable speed, PERIOD.
No. It would be quantifiable if we knew what portion, or even if he crossed the entire span of the picture. You just wish it weren't quantifiable so you could apply any speed figure your imagination desires.
The other aspect that is significant to me is the manner in which he casually mentions his feat and begins fighting without a hint of fatigue. This suggests he was no where near his speed limit. I look at that vs. how Flash often does show fatigue and also struggles with his speed based rogues.
Yep, just as I thought. You want carte blanche to assign any figure of your imagination. Instead of taking that as a stamina feat for Gladiator, you want license to assume he was massively holding back his speed.
Except the words used were 'fast enough'. As in, that's the top speed you can expect. There wasn't any addendum to that saying 'fast enough to do this while massively holding back his speed' or anything else.
All this aside...what does Gladiator have to do with Silver Surfer? Their speed feats aren't interchangeable by any editorial fiat that I'm aware of, and this is a Surfer thread.
TL;DR, Glads' speed feat while great,can't come close to competing with the best. And he isn't Surfer anyway.