Who wins the race: Surfer vs Flash

Originally posted by Galan007
The feat was obviously not instantaneous, lol.

Like I said: it is definitely a great showing... It's simply not on par with Wally's best, is all. 🙂

Yes it was, unless you think Thanos was doing the mannequin challenge. I hope you don't have your heels dug in so deep that you can't admit an understandable but significant error. Thanos did not actually get to throw a punch, Surfer got there mid movement, making the travel speed virtually instantaneous. The feat is without peer.

[QUOTE=16088117]Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
[B]Yes it was, unless you think Thanos was doing the mannequin challenge. I hope you don't have your heels dug in so deep that you can't admit an understandable but significant error. Thanos did not actually get to throw a punch, Surfer got there mid movement , making the travel speed virtually instantaneous. The feat is without peer.

wut.................

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Originally posted by ghostman
[QUOTE=16088117]Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
[B]Yes it was, unless you think Thanos was doing the mannequin challenge. I hope you don't have your heels dug in so deep that you can't admit an understandable but significant error. Thanos did not actually get to throw a punch, Surfer got there mid movement , making the travel speed virtually instantaneous. The feat is without peer.

wut.................

Need me to say it again? It's right in the scan, the scan that's in the thread, that is in every Surfer respect thread on the internet.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Need me to say it again? It's right in the scan, the scan that's in the thread, that is in every Surfer respect thread on the internet.

you said thanos didnt throw the punch..... but than you said he was mid movement. did he throw the punch or not?

you also said it was instantaneous, but changed it to virtually instantaneous, which is it..

Originally posted by -K-M-
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Correct, but that in context with the scans and the language used by Gladiator suggests it wasn't just two galaxies.

By the way people, the question is clearly who do you think would won in a race between Surfer and Flash. It would be great if someone beside me in the thread stated who they THINK would win.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Need me to say it again? It's right in the scan, the scan that's in the thread, that is in every Surfer respect thread on the internet.

You mean the scans where Surfer starts moving when Thanos is winding up his punch, (i.e. his arm is behind his body) and then in the next page while Surfer is already traveling, Thanos' fist is now in front of him and en-route to Cap's face?

Apparently its 'instantaneous' and then immediately contradicted with a Thanos is 'mid-movement', which makes it...well...non-instantaneous of course. Lol.

Get something straight for once here man.

I removed my post. I typed it but then hit send by accident instead of delete as changed my mind posting. Sorry about that

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Yes it was, unless you think Thanos was doing the mannequin challenge. I hope you don't have your heels dug in so deep that you can't admit an understandable but significant error. Thanos did not actually get to throw a punch, Surfer got there mid movement, making the travel speed virtually instantaneous. The feat is without peer.

😂

Originally posted by ghostman
you said thanos didnt throw the punch..... but than you said he was mid movement. did he throw the punch or not?

you also said it was instantaneous, but changed it to virtually instantaneous, which is it..

First of all, instantaneous is an occurrence that can't actually be measured. Instantaneous doesn't actually exist. Hope that helps you feel better, but it's the same thing as virtually instantaneous.

Secondly, Thanos began the process of throwing a punch, but never threw it. I'm not sure why that's difficult, especially when there is a visual aid to assist. Why are you asking these questions?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Thanos did not have the opportunity to move at all until his cosmic awareness kicked in at the last instance.

This is what you said.

And that is of course, completely wrong. As I described prior.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
You mean the scans where Surfer starts moving when Thanos is winding up his punch, (i.e. his arm is behind his body) and then in the next page while Surfer is already traveling, Thanos' fist is now in front of him and en-route to Cap's face?

Apparently its 'instantaneous' and then immediately contradicted with a Thanos is 'mid-movement', which makes it...well...non-instantaneous of course. Lol.

Get something straight for once here man.

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I wanna say you are smarter than this, but I'm starting wonder now, and don't mistake that for an insult. Look at the scan again and pay attention to what is going on. Thanos never threw the punch (he wound up only), he dodged Surfer's attempt to grab the Gauntlet. He isn't even looking at Cap the moment after Surfer missed. And Thanos was obviously nearly omnipotent with control over time and space. His cosmic awareness kicked in which you are somehow mistaking for a punch, a punch that he never followed through with.

Originally posted by carver9
It said Flash was basically exhausted for running near light speed. Running NEAR light speed exhausted him.

It didn't say that, but even if it did..the feat can't be done at lightspeed lol.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
This is what you said.

And that is of course, completely wrong. As I described prior.

What you described was utter nonsense. Your still think Thanos threw the punch. So you are saying he somehow MISSED Cap standing two feet in front of him even though he had the space gem, the time, gem, the reality gem and cosmic awareness and on top of that, Cap didn't move? Great call. You denial is pathetic.

Originally posted by Surtur
It didn't say that, but even if it did..the feat can't be done at lightspeed lol.

Which AGAIN is another example of why real world science/math applied to scans does not result in presentable "facts." That's what people are trying to do in this thread.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet 😄

I wanna say you are smarter than this, but I'm starting wonder now, and don't mistake that for an insukt. [b]

It's ok. I've never mistaken you for smart, well, ever.

Look at the scan again and pay attention to what is going on. Thanos never threw the punch

You mean the scans that I just explained to you? 🙂

The ones where Thanos' fist is behind his head during the wind up (the exact moment when surfer begins moving) and then his arm is almost fully extended and traveling towards Cap's face on the next page(Surfer is still traveling there at this point.)?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Which AGAIN is another example of why real world science/math applied to scans does not result in presentable "facts." That's what people are trying to do in this thread.

I see it as being an example of writers have zero sense of scale(and math).

The feat should be less legit because the writer didn't decide to sit there and calculate the specific speed?

Do numbers and speeds not mean the same in the DCU as they do in real life? Pretty sure the speed of light is still 186k a second, both in real life and in DC.

Either prove that isn't the case, or prove you could do what Flash did while only operating at lightspeed. He'd need to be dilating time and space while at the same time using super speed, this is the only explanation if we say he was going at lightspeed.

Lol. Another thing I just noticed about Thanos' deliberate, slow punch toward Cap.

Cap has time to change his facial expressions. In one panel he is gritting his teeth and the next his lips are closed.

And Surfer is enroute the whole time during this.

But apparently Surfer was moving instantaneously tho!!!

I guess Cap has instantaneous facial muscles too fam!!

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Yes it was, unless you think Thanos was doing the mannequin challenge.

Time was obviously not stopped in that scene, nor was teleportation involved. Surfer physically flew from point-A to point-B. I know this because he can be seen flying in like 8 different panels -- and he is clearly accelerating in each subsequent panel(if he is accelerating he is not moving instantaneously, FYI.) 🙂

IOW, *some* order of time passed between Warlock yelling "NOW!", and Surfer arriving at Thanos' location... Could have been 5 seconds; could have been 5 picoseconds... Either way, a degree of time clearly passed. Surfer doesn't possess the ability to fly at 'instantaneous' speeds, lol.

Don't troll. 👆

Things that happened during Surfer's flight.

1. Thanos' fist moved several feet; from his behind the head wind up to nearly fully extended arm.

2. Cap has time to change his facial expressions. From open gritted teeth to closed mouth.

1/10th of a second scale event. Not even close to instantaneous.

Anyway, Flash obviously wins this.

Surfer doesn't have the feats to compete. And that's that.