Timeline:
- Palpatine holds the gold standard for successful Star Wars villainy and becomes an iconic character
- stuff x 3
- Bioware is given ~ $30 trillion dollars to come up with a new story and develop a game and makes their Big Bad Palpatinea megalomaniacal-narcissist-"genius" obsessed with immortality and galactic conquest and UNLIMITED POWAH who declares himself emperor and dresses himself in a hooded cloak and turns over day-to-day maintenance of his empire to ministers and underlings whilst he devotes himself to study of the Force who is ultimately "defeated" by a prophesied figure... but who may have actually survived that defeat as well...no, yeah, Palpatine
- Mickey assumes the throne and all of Star Wars is in flux
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Timeline:- Palpatine holds the gold standard for successful Star Wars villainy and becomes an iconic character
- stuff x 3
- Bioware is given ~ $30 trillion dollars to come up with a new story and develop a game and makes their Big Bad
Palpatinea megalomaniacal-narcissist-"genius" obsessed with immortality and galactic conquest and UNLIMITED POWAH who declares himself emperor and dresses himself in a hooded cloak and turns over day-to-day maintenance of his empire to ministers and underlings whilst he devotes himself to study of the Force who is ultimately "defeated" by a prophesied figure... but who may have actually survived that defeat as well...no, yeah, Palpatine- Mickey assumes the throne and all of Star Wars is in flux
LOL.
Sidious will slaughter both. No comparison.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Timeline:- Palpatine holds the gold standard for successful Star Wars villainy and becomes an iconic character
- stuff x 3
- Bioware is given ~ $30 trillion dollars to come up with a new story and develop a game and makes their Big Bad
Palpatinea megalomaniacal-narcissist-"genius" obsessed with immortality and galactic conquest and UNLIMITED POWAH who declares himself emperor and dresses himself in a hooded cloak and turns over day-to-day maintenance of his empire to ministers and underlings whilst he devotes himself to study of the Force who is ultimately "defeated" by a prophesied figure... but who may have actually survived that defeat as well...no, yeah, Palpatine- Mickey assumes the throne and all of Star Wars is in flux
Originally posted by The_Tempest
You may call me Vitiate, then.
"The Force works in mysterious ways, it seems. There are times I'm not convinced it doesn't have a sense of humor."
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Neither Dooku nor Kenobi are able to even compete, per Lucas' own words. It is a slaughter.
Compete suggests having a chance of winning. I can't compete in a race against you if your simply faster than me, because you'll win every time. Doesn't mean I can't make you work for the win.
Besides context is your friend. Lucas was referring to Jedi who can or can't compete with Palpatine. Not to mention Dooku was already dead at that point.
Fact is we've already seen Dooku put up a fight against Yoda, in a situation where it was vital for Yoda to stop Dooku. So there's absolutely no reason to think Palpatine (Yoda's equal) is going to stomp Dooku without much effort.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
If that were true then Dooku never would have fought off and escaped Yoda (Sidious's equal).There will be no "uber stomp," of Dooku here. Just a sound defeat.
Reason is that Sidious is not a pacifist like Yoda, he is a Sith Lord and he doesn't have soft corner for Dooku either. Sidious is unlikely to give Dooku much choice and freedom to make his moves.
Sidious's duel against the brothers leaves no doubt that he will slaughter this particular duo as well, I am not implying blitz level dismissal but this duo is also toast.
When Dooku fought Opress and Ventress, we saw that he was struggling to subdue this duo. It was when the duo broke up (separated), then Dooku found an opening to exploit. In comparison, the duo of brothers was superior (Opress better trained and Maul > Ventress) and this duo faltered against Sidious.
I stick by my original assessment, Sidious will slaughter this duo.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
If Palpatine chooses to, he can kill both of them before they can react.
If that were true then Yoda would have prevented the Clone Wars from ever starting before Dooku could "even react."
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Dooku have his moments but his performance against Yoda is not much of a deciding factor in this particular contest.Reason is that Sidious is not a pacifist like Yoda, he is a Sith Lord and he doesn't have soft corner for Dooku either. Sidious is unlikely to give Dooku much choice and freedom to make his moves.
You require proof here. Proof that Yoda purposely didn't stop Dooku starting the Clone Wars because he "loved him too much," so instead allowed the mass murder of countless other Jedi. And proof that Sidious would fair better which I think you think is addressed below:
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sidious's duel against the brothers leaves no doubt that he will slaughter this particular duo as well, I am not implying blitz level dismissal but this duo is also toast.
How so? This is a far far far superior duo to Maul and Opress. The weakest of this duo is at least equal to the strongest of the Zabrak duo.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
When Dooku fought Opress and Ventress, we saw that he was struggling to subdue this duo. It was when the duo broke up (separated), then Dooku found an opening to exploit. In comparison, the duo of brothers was superior (Opress better trained and Maul > Ventress) and this duo faltered against Sidious.
And the duo of Skywalker and Kenobi is far superior to the Maul duo. Yet Count Dooku is capable of fighting off that far superior duo, at one point even casually stomping Kenobi while flattening Skywalker.
Again context is key. Count Dooku wasn't prepared for the Opress/Ventress team up. He was completely surprised by Ventress being alive and their planned team up. And he was still coming out on top.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I stick by my original assessment, Sidious will slaughter this duo.
I see no basis for that opinion. Dooku can put up a half decent fight alone. Kenobi will only help his efforts.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
When Dooku fought Opress and Ventress, we saw that he was struggling to subdue this duo. It was when the duo broke up (separated), then Dooku found an opening to exploit. In comparison, the duo of brothers was superior (Opress better trained and Maul > Ventress) and this duo faltered against Sidious.
Yes, but this duo is better than the brothers duo in both cases. Kenobi > Savage and Dooku > Maul.
The brothers were able to make it last a few minutes, this much stronger duo should do even better.