Count Dooku and Obi-wan vs. Darth Sidious

And as you said, it's not in Sidious best interest to kill Dooku. If Dooku's clumsiness, which could have cost them, didn't prompt Sidious to destroy him, then I don't see how defending against a force attack (not attack Sidious back) would prompt him to.

There was no harm in Dooku resisting, so I'm guessing he probably was. If he can do that to Count Dooku from another frigging planet, then he could lierally just flick Kenobi.

So yeah, I concede, Sidious stomps.

I'm only left wondering why Mace can compete with Sidious. Is Mace 10 times more powerful than Dooku in the Force? Or is it really just down to Vapaad drawing on Sidious's Dark Side energies? That topic is more confusing to me than ever now.

It's because Mace is black, and Sidious could lose his career if he curbstomped a black guy.

Duh.

Originally posted by The_Tempest

At this point, given their own impressive feats, I question whether or not Dooku is more "powerful" than they are at all. More skilled, certainly. More dangerous, absolutely.

I'd say what makes the gap between them significant is Kenobi being able to hold off and/or defeat each one of the Maul bros. When we then see the way Dooku handles Kenobi every time they fight (usually when Kenobi has Skywalker aiding him) then we have to believe Dooku is significantly above Maul. But I do now think that both Zabrak brothers together would probably wreck him.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I'd say what makes the gap between them significant is Kenobi being able to hold off and/or defeat each one of the Maul bros. When we then see the way Dooku handles Kenobi every time they fight (usually when Kenobi has Skywalker aiding him) then we have to believe Dooku is significantly above Maul. But I do now think that both Zabrak brothers together would probably wreck him.

Maul has never went all out in trying to kill Kenobi as Dooku has. I think Intrepid provided a source that pretty much confirms it.

In any case, I believe Temp was talking about sheer raw power with the force. He pretty much admits Dooku is more dangerous overall. Dooku does have the better saber feats, and a wider range of offensive force abilities than Maul, but they seem to be peers in TK.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Maul has never went all out in trying to kill Kenobi as Dooku has. I think Intrepid provided a source that pretty much confirms it.

Still Dooku was just continuously owning Kenobi in that last fight. (I'm glad it was without the Force as well because now people can't argue that Dooku can't beat Kenobi without TK Lol). But given that, if it was a one on one, and Dooku didn't want to kill Kenobi, that shouldn't really be a problem for Dooku at all.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
In any case, I believe Temp was talking about sheer raw power with the force. He pretty much admits Dooku is more dangerous overall. Dooku does have the better saber feats, and a wider range of offensive force abilities than Maul, but they seem to be peers in TK.

I think Dooku still has superior raw tk power feats tbh. But it's a shame we never got Dooku vs Maul. (Or Mace vs Dooku to clear up a few things).

I highly doubt Sidious can actually force choke Dooku like that in the midst of battle. Sidious and Dooku's relationship as Master and Apprentice was far more of a pair of equals as per canon. Also why is force choking someone from across the galaxy more impressive than choking someone right next to you? Is not the force a galaxy wide entity?

Also considering Sidious' reaction to Ventress becoming more powerful, I actually doubt Sidious can overcome Tyranus with a competent partner.

Spirit Freedan Nadd choked Vodo from across the galaxy while trolling Kun on Korriban.

All hail.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
I highly doubt Sidious can actually force choke Dooku like that in the midst of battle. Sidious and Dooku's relationship as Master and Apprentice was far more of a pair of equals as per canon. Also why is force choking someone from across the galaxy more impressive than choking someone right next to you? Is not the force a galaxy wide entity?

Also considering Sidious' reaction to Ventress becoming more powerful, I actually doubt Sidious can overcome Tyranus with a competent partner.

Sidious lecturing, choking, and threatening Dooku is characteristic of a relationship between... equals?

This explains some past relationships.

Likewise.

You guys treat your GFs/BFs as equals?

Lawl, pussies.

...No comment.

Neph is a sub, we all know this.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
There was no harm in Dooku resisting, so I'm guessing he probably was.

No harm other than showing disobedience?

Originally posted by Astor Ebligis
No harm other than showing disobedience?

Dooku visibly struggled in the chokehold. This didn't strike me as some sort of kinky sex game between the two wherein the Count indulged his asphyxiation fetish.

Visibly struggled with the pain or visibly struggled in conjuring a defence? Haven't seen the scene btw.

I think S66 posted it on the previous page.

Clutching your neck isn't really struggling. Thats just what everyone does when being choked.

Yes, people tend to struggle when they're choked.