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Well, he did deliver that one back punch that made a VERY loud crunching sound. That lightning catch and the bullet feats at the police precinct were insane too. Though how bad is it going to be for Barry if he has to potentially be in a wheelchair for a while, just like the Wells/Thawne who betrayed him.
How do you guys think peak Reverse Flash would fare against Zoom?
Now I know instinctively, most will say a Zoomstomp because he is the shiny new toy, but RF has beaten Flash pretty convincingly too - but Zoom seems to be stronger.
And when RF lost, he wasn't beaten by Barry alone, he had help from Firestorm and Oliver - AND we never really saw PEAK Reverse Flash as he lost his connection to the Speed Force. The only time we MAY have seen it was him fighting with future Flash travelling back in time. The important point about this was RF was keeping up with FUTURE Barry, whom we can assume has vastly improved over the current one.
I would love to see this fight.
Regarding the latest episode, was anyone reminded of the Batman / Knightfall arc?
Barry = Batman
Zoom = Bane
Bane dominates and brutally breaks Batman's back and cripples him in the beginning, but Batman makes a comeback? Batman is then retrained by Shiva (Jay Garrick).
So this has actually been ahead of AOS in the ratings for the last couple of episodes. But that's mainly due to AOS ratings going down, but also due to Flash maintaining it's ratings.
Such a shame though that Flash couldn't get picked up by a bigger network like Gotham, AOS and Supergirl did. Because I think it could have picked up a higher viewership than any of them if given that chance.
A few people, including you both now as well, have said that the quality does go up, so there must be truth to it. So I might just cheat and read the synopsis of season 1 online and then pick it up after that.
And yeah, part of the reason Constantine flopped was because NBC stuck it in a lousy timeslot. Though I still feel that Zed was a big element in that show that did not work so well.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
A few people, including you both now as well, have said that the quality does go up, so there must be truth to it. So I might just cheat and read the synopsis of season 1 online and then pick it up after that.And yeah, part of the reason Constantine flopped was because NBC stuck it in a lousy timeslot. Though I still feel that Zed was a big element in that show that did not work so well.
Zed was terrible. Matt Ryan was great though.
Problem is that the best AoS episodes so far were the ones in the latter half of S1, right along with the Cap 2 tie-ins. I'm completely on the fence with it as a whole, though. To me, it's not as good as Flash, but not as bad as Arrow (imo) or Gotham (based on feedback; I've not watched Gotham myself).
While AoS improves drastically, it still has boring moments that get annoying: I didn't particularly care for the season 3 premiere though so far the season's going smoothly. With that said Gotham is, IMO, the weakest of the comic book shows as of late: I'll still give Supergirl the benefit of the doubt as only 3 episodes have aired.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerI hated AoS at first, but it definitely gets better.
A few people, including you both now as well, have said that the quality does go up, so there must be truth to it. So I might just cheat and read the synopsis of season 1 online and then pick it up after that.And yeah, part of the reason Constantine flopped was because NBC stuck it in a lousy timeslot. Though I still feel that Zed was a big element in that show that did not work so well.
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Well, still seems like it has a few misses now and then going by comments, but based on overall opinion here, I think I will actually try to give it more of a shot again. One thing I will say about KMC is that, in my own experience, the majority of posters here know which are the better shows to watch and which are the ones to avoid, so always great to get replies and comments to questions.
Originally posted by Digi
Zed was terrible. Matt Ryan was great though.
I was actually trying to be nicer than saying she was flat out terrible. 😆
But you are right. Her character and her confusing half-assed story arc with the people looking for her was a mess, detracted from the overall plot, and stole screen time that should have gone to John. Chas wasn't much better IMO. He had some good moments, but overall seemed to have two modes. Give John crap about pretty much every choice he makes, or nag John to help someone with something or other, and then criticize/undermine his methods once he agrees to do so. Like that Felix Faust episode.
Originally posted by SurturWell, Marvel only has 1 show on network tv.
To be honest I followed every episode of AoS until about mid way into the 2nd season..that is when it lost me. I just think DC tends to have the better tv shows, while it seems Marvel currently has the better movies.
And it's at least as good as Gotham and Arrow.
On a more positive note than my comments below, I friggin love Tom Cavanaugh. Makes me want to go back and re-watch "Ed"
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I was actually trying to be nicer than saying she was flat out terrible. 😆But you are right. Her character and her confusing half-assed story arc with the people looking for her was a mess, detracted from the overall plot, and stole screen time that should have gone to John. Chas wasn't much better IMO. He had some good moments, but overall seemed to have two modes. Give John crap about pretty much every choice he makes, or nag John to help someone with something or other, and then criticize/undermine his methods once he agrees to do so. Like that Felix Faust episode.
Saying she was terrible WAS me being nice.
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It was a sneakily terrible version of Doctor Who, actually. Brilliant British mystery man lives in a wondrous home that is bigger on the inside than on the outside, travels with a female companion, and has a friend that can't die (i.e. Jack Harkness). Plus or minus a smoking habit and trading magical science for magical magic, and there you go.
I love Doctor Who, so in and of itself, that's not a criticism. However, in execution it paled in comparison.
I do hope Matt Ryan is a regular guest, though. He really was brilliant in the role.
Originally posted by Mindset
Well, Marvel only has 1 show on network tv.And it's at least as good as Gotham and Arrow.
And having a painful poop is better than blood in your stool or projectile diarrhea. Doesn't make it pleasant though.
I agree with you, btw. But realistically, the tie to the movie-verse is the only thing that's kept me from ditching AoS. It's decent, and really good at times. But I don't get out of bed for "decent." Same with Arrow. It's the lynch pin for Flash and Legends of Tomorrow, so I'm sticking with it until it's clear it can be dropped.
Originally posted by Digi
Saying she was terrible WAS me being nice.😉
It was a sneakily terrible version of Doctor Who, actually. Brilliant British mystery man lives in a wondrous home that is bigger on the inside than on the outside, travels with a female companion, and has a friend that can't die (i.e. Jack Harkness). Plus or minus a smoking habit and trading magical science for magical magic, and there you go.
I love Doctor Who, so in and of itself, that's not a criticism. However, in execution it paled in comparison.
I do hope Matt Ryan is a regular guest, though. He really was brilliant in the role.
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Yeah, Matt Ryan was the one really good thing to come out of that series. So whether he becomes a regular in the CW DCverse, or someone else gives him a shot at a Hellblazer movie (I think this would be great myself), I am just keen to have him back as Constantine in some way. Would be cool if something in the CW universe resurrected a certain mister Cyrus Gold and he became a certain other very well known antagonist, and John has to come help stop him.
And you know... I never thought about the Doctor Who parallel before, but you are totally right there.