Thor vs. Avengers Hulk Rematch

Started by FrothByte37 pages

Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure if you noticed, but the Hulk was considerably faster than all of the above guys you mentioned. I didn't say it would be impossible for Thor to pull off some of his more exotic moves, but more to the tune that it would be more difficult to pull them off if the Hulk was in his face for the majority of the fight. This isn't to mention that the Hulk has thunder clap attacks of his own to help him get in close when or if Thor attempted to put some distance between them.

Fans of the Hulk, there are also fans of Thor in terms of writing, and what exactly do you think that the live action movie was based off of? It wasn't based off of Marvel 616, because Nick Fury is Caucasian in the 616 universe, while he is African American in the Ultimate's universe. Did you notice that the Avengers roster is the exact same one that was used in the Ultimate universe or not?

Thor lost his fight in the Ultimates cartoon movie. it did not matter if he was dominating, the only thing that mattered was that the Hulk won that battle. The Hulk was significantly weaker in Planet hulk due to being drained on entry of Sakaar. Bill is protected, and gifted with mystical powers. He was at full strength.

Movie Thor is not based off Ultimate Thor. You'd have to be delusional to think that. Just because Fury was based off Ultimate Fury doesn't mean the entire roster was. There might be Thor fans among writers, but as far as I know I never heard of one of them being the scriptwriter for the cartoons.

You can argue it any way you want, but using cartoons as a basis for arguing that Hulk wins this fight is even sillier than using comics.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Movie Thor is not based off Ultimate Thor. You'd have to be delusional to think that. Just because Fury was based off Ultimate Fury doesn't mean the entire roster was. There might be Thor fans among writers, but as far as I know I never heard of one of them being the scriptwriter for the cartoons.

You can argue it any way you want, but using cartoons as a basis for arguing that Hulk wins this fight is even sillier than using comics.

The roster that comprised the team of Avengers in the movie was the exact same one in the cartoon minus Wasp, and Hank. Don't even attempt to make it seem far fetched, there were some differences of course, and I could say that it was a mix of both universes split into one. Fury is a clear indicator of this, as were Widow, and Hawkeye if we used their costume designs. Anyways that really has nothing to do with the thread. As for favoritism it seems that no one will ever come up with solid proof to prove that the Hulk could defeat Thor, or vice versa. I was more impressed with the Hulk's showings in the movie, as he was more impressive than Thor, and for some odd reason you were more impressed with Thor, even though he had many moments that made him look very weak. The Hulk stole the show,while Thor seemed rather lackluster. In other words the Hulk out shined Thor in that movie.

Now like i said, it would be silly if Thor out shined the Hulk in the movie, but that simply was not the case.

So Thor having the best power feat in the entire movie and giving an out of control Hulk a decent fight while holding back is lackluster?

I'm sorry, but how exactly was Thor made to look weak? Hulk was definitely more flamboyant, having more "crowd pleasing" moments. But from a purely logical point of view, Thor actually had the more impressive feats.

Originally posted by Stoic
You do realize that Matt Fraction is only one writer?
And your only example is two animated movies.

Anyway Thor beats Hulk going all-out, at full power. Canon. 👆

Originally posted by Stoic
The roster that comprised the team of Avengers in the movie was the exact same one in the cartoon minus Wasp, and Hank. Don't even attempt to make it seem far fetched, there were some differences of course, and I could say that it was a mix of both universes split into one. Fury is a clear indicator of this, as were Widow, and Hawkeye if we used their costume designs. Anyways that really has nothing to do with the thread. As for favoritism it seems that no one will ever come up with solid proof to prove that the Hulk could defeat Thor, or vice versa. I was more impressed with the Hulk's showings in the movie, as he was more impressive than Thor, and for some odd reason you were more impressed with Thor, even though he had many moments that made him look very weak. The Hulk stole the show,while Thor seemed rather lackluster. In other words the Hulk out shined Thor in that movie.

Now like i said, it would be silly if Thor out shined the Hulk in the movie, but that simply was not the case.

The Hulk had a moment where the normal Chitauri had him pinned down and were injuring him.

Thor had no such moment, and he also has the single best feat in the entire movie.

Are you stupid, or just intellectually dishonest?

Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure if you noticed, but the Hulk was considerably faster than all of the above guys you mentioned. I didn't say it would be impossible for Thor to pull off some of his more exotic moves, but more to the tune that it would be more difficult to pull them off if the Hulk was in his face for the majority of the fight. This isn't to mention that the Hulk has thunder clap attacks of his own to help him get in close when or if Thor attempted to put some distance between them.

Hulk's thunderclaps are too weak to do damage to Thor, don't be an idiot.

Fans of the Hulk, there are also fans of Thor in terms of writing, and what exactly do you think that the live action movie was based off of? It wasn't based off of Marvel 616, because Nick Fury is Caucasian in the 616 universe, while he is African American in the Ultimate's universe. Did you notice that the Avengers roster is the exact same one that was used in the Ultimate universe or not?

Which is why Captain America is a jerkass racist and sexist douchebag in the movie. Wait, no he isn't.

Please stop talking. 👇

Samuel L. Jackson allowed the Ultimate line of comics to use his likeness as Nick Fury only so he could play Fury in a future role.

Thor lost his fight in the Ultimates cartoon movie. it did not matter if he was dominating, the only thing that mattered was that the Hulk won that battle.

Spoken like a deluded fanboy.

The Hulk was significantly weaker in Planet hulk due to being drained on entry of Sakaar. Bill is protected, and gifted with mystical powers. He was at full strength.

Can you prove either of those claims?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hulk's thunderclaps are too weak to do damage to Thor, don't be an idiot.

Which is why Captain America is a jerkass racist and sexist douchebag in the movie. Wait, no he isn't.

Please stop talking. 👇

Samuel L. Jackson allowed the Ultimate line of comics to use his likeness as Nick Fury only so he could play Fury in a future role.

Spoken like a deluded fanboy.

Can you prove either of those claims?

When the Hulk went through the wormhole it sapped his strength or else he wouldn't have been so easily wounded by those bug men are you dense, first of all did you even read Planet Hulk? if not don't bother commenting. As you later see in Planet Hulk much more powerful he becomes.

The Hulk's thunder claps would be powerful enough to ground Thor, and that's all that they would be used for anyways. Try to keep up.

Are you claiming that the Avengers movie was solely based on 616 continuity? not that it matters in this thread.

If I'm a fanboy asshat, what are you? just stfu.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The Hulk had a moment where the normal Chitauri had him pinned down and were injuring him.

Thor had no such moment, and he also has the single best feat in the entire movie.

Are you stupid, or just intellectually dishonest?

I didn't see Thor one shot KO the huge worm like creature like the Hulk did, in fact he was struggling with one. Are you blind as well as stupid? See we can both hurl insults jackass.

Originally posted by NemeBro
And your only example is two animated movies.

Anyway Thor beats Hulk going all-out, at full power. Canon. 👆

Actually thor would get his clock cleaned if the hulk decided to go all out, unless you think Thor would stand a chance against the Hulk at World Breaker levels.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm sorry, but how exactly was Thor made to look weak? Hulk was definitely more flamboyant, having more "crowd pleasing" moments. But from a purely logical point of view, Thor actually had the more impressive feats.

What was this impressive feat that you're speaking of?

Originally posted by Stoic
When the Hulk went through the wormhole it sapped his strength or else he wouldn't have been so easily wounded by those bug men are you dense, first of all did you even read Planet Hulk? if not don't bother commenting. As you later see in Planet Hulk much more powerful he becomes.

Yes, I did. Oh, are we pretending that the comic and the movie are synonymous now? Because as I recall Hulk didn't fight BRB in the comic. He fought an explicitly weakened Silver Surfer.

Stop lying you whore.

The Hulk's thunder claps would be powerful enough to ground Thor

Afraid not.

Are you claiming that the Avengers movie was solely based on 616 continuity? not that it matters in this thread.

No, but you're claiming that it was solely based on the Ultimates. Specifically, the cartoon movie apparently. Do I even need to illustrate why you're an idiot?

If I'm a fanboy asshat, what are you? just stfu.

An unbiased poster far more intelligent than you.

Originally posted by Stoic
I didn't see Thor one shot KO the huge worm like creature like the Hulk did, in fact he was struggling with one. Are you blind as well as stupid? See we can both hurl insults jackass.
I'd ask you to prove that it was KO'd, but we both know you can't. Neither the movie nor even the script make this explicit. In fact, Ironman has to finish it off.

Thor on the other hand took out three with one powerful blast of lightning.

Did you even watch the Avengers, or did you just youtube all the scenes with Hulk in states of undress?

Originally posted by Stoic
Actually thor would get his clock cleaned if the hulk decided to go all out, unless you think Thor would stand a chance against the Hulk at World Breaker levels.
Huh.

Are you debating comics?

Where do you think we are Stoic?

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'd ask you to prove that it was KO'd, but we both know you can't. Neither the movie nor even the script make this explicit. In fact, Ironman has to finish it off.

Thor on the other hand took out three with one powerful blast of lightning.

Did you even watch the Avengers, or did you just youtube all the scenes with Hulk in states of undress?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yes, I did. Oh, are we pretending that the comic and the movie are synonymous now? Because as I recall Hulk didn't fight BRB in the comic. He fought an explicitly weakened Silver Surfer.

Stop lying you whore.

Afraid not.

No, but you're claiming that it was solely based on the Ultimates. Specifically, the cartoon movie apparently. Do I even need to illustrate why you're an idiot?

An unbiased poster far more intelligent than you.

You believe that hurling insults will allow you to somehow score points in favor of Thor? All I see is some pathetic little boy flaming, and attempting to elevate himself above his little station. If not why would you bother to insult someone that you do not know for the sake of some petty fictional debate?

You are correct the Silver Surfer was in the original arc, Bill wasn't, but at the same time Bill will not suffer from the same effects that the Hulk or the Surfer would, because his powers are mystical in nature, theirs are not. Of course this also has nothing to do with anything, except for the fact that the Hulk was drained by the wormhole that he went through before he landed on Sakaar, and was in a weakened state. You asked me to prove it. I did, you're the dishonest person here, not me, so don't try to pin your failings as a person on me you liar.

My like of one character would not make me sit there and lie if i did not believe that the Hulk would win. If i thought that thor would win, I would say that I thought that he would win. Comics aren't real, nor was the movie, so the people that wrote both cartoons believed that the Hulk would beat Thor up if they were to battle it out under those circumstances. The idea that you are immature enough to insult me over this shows me that you must have had a fit when you saw that movie. Don't pretend to know who I am. You don't so keep your nasty little thoughts to yourself.

if you were so unbiased why is it that you need to insult someone in an attempt to prove you weak points? The fact here is that no one will be able to prove beyond a shadow of doubt who would win between the two of these fictional characters. Grow up kid.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'd ask you to prove that it was KO'd, but we both know you can't. Neither the movie nor even the script make this explicit. In fact, Ironman has to finish it off.

Thor on the other hand took out three with one powerful blast of lightning.

Did you even watch the Avengers, or did you just youtube all the scenes with Hulk in states of undress?

I saw the movie, although I admit that I only watched it once, and wasn't as enthralled at it as you seem to be. I wonder why that was? Also when evidence is in short supply you have to draw from other sources, because the winner between these two will always fall to which guy the individual believes would win. no one will be able to prove who would win, but what i saw made me believe that the Hulk was about to beat the mess out of Thor. BTW if you want to flame me over something as petty as a fictional account that no one can prove don't bother, because it's not as big of a deal to me, as it seems to be to you. Just know one thing, you can't prove anything to anyone simply from proclaiming that you are greater than someone else in terms of intellect. You don't know me so let's keep it civil. If you can't control yourself don't reply to me. I trust that I am understood here.

Oh, and who is that in your avy? is that Thor? I'm the fanboy?

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'd ask you to prove that it was KO'd, but we both know you can't. Neither the movie nor even the script make this explicit. In fact, Ironman has to finish it off.

Thor on the other hand took out three with one powerful blast of lightning.

Did you even watch the Avengers, or did you just youtube all the scenes with Hulk in states of undress?

Thor using the building he was leaning on (wasn't all Thor) took out a 3 of them. Get it right. Crazy thing is, he couldn't take out Ironman during a rage with a lightning attack.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor using the building he was leaning on (wasn't all Thor) took out a 3 of them. Get it right. Crazy thing is, he couldn't take out Ironman during a rage with a lightning attack.

Right. So the building has some form of way of making lightning stronger? What kind of building is this?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Right. So the building has some form of way of making lightning stronger? What kind of building is this?

What about Carver's points on Thor vs Ironman? Unless you believe that Thor was also holding back there as well?

Originally posted by Stoic
What about Carver's points on Thor vs Ironman? Unless you believe that Thor was also holding back there as well?

Of course he was. In his own words "I have no quarrel with you". Or do you think that Thor just outright kills anyone who disagrees with him?