Originally posted by FrothByte
So... you call the scene of Thor throwing a right cross at Hulk as a "simple myth" and then tell us that Hulk was holding back?I understand you now Carver. I think you're intentionally making stupid remarks and laughing your ass off just to see how many fall for your act.
Im basically using your type of argument. The only thing you all have been using as an argument is Thor holding back, so why can't I share the wealth? J don't think either Thor or Hulk was holding back in that fight, because they wasn't.
Originally posted by carver9
Im basically using your type of argument. The only thing you all have been using as an argument is Thor holding back, so why can't I share the wealth? J don't think either Thor or Hulk was holding back in that fight, because they wasn't.
You do realize that you've just admitted to trolling, right?
Originally posted by carver9The difference between the arguments is at least one side has actual evidence to support their claims based on the scenes vs the one which is without any basis and just wild speculation.
Im basically using your type of argument. The only thing you all have been using as an argument is Thor holding back, so why can't I share the wealth? J don't think either Thor or Hulk was holding back in that fight, because they wasn't.
The reason people suggest Thor was holding back was because
A) Thor had been trying to talk Banner down.
B) He wasn't using any of his more powerful blows based on movie feats
C) Even after engaging Hulk Thor was still trying to restrain him instead on trying to hit him.
Hulk on the other hand almost killed Black Widow, tried to smash Thor, while Thor was trying to calm him.
While I don't think movie Thor would destroy Hulk in H2H combat he was very clearly not going all out in that fight. Does that mean he pulled his punches possibly some, regardless he was clearly fighting not to kill Hulk while the reverse wasn't the case.
Would you agree to that Carver that Hulk was trying to hurt and kill Thor while Thor was more or less trying to restrain Hulk?
Originally posted by Newjak
The difference between the arguments is at least one side has actual evidence to support their claims based on the scenes vs the one which is without any basis and just wild speculation.The reason people suggest Thor was holding back was because
A) Thor had been trying to talk Banner down.
B) He wasn't using any of his more powerful blows based on movie feats
C) Even after engaging Hulk Thor was still trying to restrain him instead on trying to hit him.
Hulk on the other hand almost killed Black Widow, tried to smash Thor, while Thor was trying to calm him.
While I don't think movie Thor would destroy Hulk in H2H combat he was very clearly not going all out in that fight. Does that mean he pulled his punches possibly some, regardless he was clearly fighting not to kill Hulk while the reverse wasn't the case.
Would you agree to that Carver that Hulk was trying to hurt and kill Thor while Thor was more or less trying to restrain Hulk?
It depends. If you think hitting Hulk with an uppercut that sent him flying into a plain, kneeing him in the face, throwing his hammer at him, and trying to choke him, if you call that restraining, then me and you have a different opinion on the matter.
Originally posted by carver9
It depends. If you think hitting Hulk with an uppercut that sent him flying into a plain, kneeing him in the face, throwing his hammer at him, and trying to choke him, if you call that restraining, then me and you have a different opinion on the matter.
Yup. Hitting Hulk with an uppercut instead of a charged uppercut does show Thor holding back. Kneeing him in the face and then putting him in a chokehold shows more restraint than kneeing him in the face and following up with another mjolnir smash.
You know, you don't even need to agree that Thor was holding back. But you can't deny that Thor wasn't using his full powerset.
Originally posted by carver9I think a couple of hits followed by him jumping on his back to 'restrain ' the Hulk restraining him.
It depends. If you think hitting Hulk with an uppercut that sent him flying into a plain, kneeing him in the face, throwing his hammer at him, and trying to choke him, if you call that restraining, then me and you have a different opinion on the matter.
What do you think Thor's main goal was in those scenes. Would you agree that Thor's primary goal was to stop the Hulk while trying not to seriously hurt him? Or do you believe he was trying to kill the Hulk or seriously injure him?
Originally posted by carver9*weren't
Im basically using your type of argument. The only thing you all have been using as an argument is Thor holding back, so why can't I share the wealth? J don't think either Thor or Hulk was holding back in that fight, because they wasn't.
If you're going to troll, use proper grammar you ****ing degenerate.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor put his entire body into that hit. That wasn't a holding back hammer shot, at all.
Of course it was, because if it wasn't, he would have channeled lightning into the hammer. Like he did for all of his most powerful Mjolnir slams.
Hulk wasn't hurt by it.
Read the script.
If anything, Thor was hurt more by Hulk punches than the other way around, and Hulk was holding back.
Hulk punches harder than Thor, sure.
We both know Hulk wasn't holding back though. We also know that Thor was not trying to kill Hulk, and that he was weakened for the entire movie. 👆
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yup. Hitting Hulk with an uppercut instead of a charged uppercut does show Thor holding back. Kneeing him in the face and then putting him in a chokehold shows more restraint than kneeing him in the face and following up with another mjolnir smash.You know, you don't even need to agree that Thor was holding back. But you can't deny that Thor wasn't using his full powerset.
I agree, but has anyone touched upon how Thor would eventually beat Hulk? Isn't he invincible or something? (the avengers Hulk confused me a bit)