Itachi Uchiha vs Mechagodzilla

Originally posted by yungz22
The logic behind it is pretty clear if you look at the facts. Can any of us name a rigged shuriken that shoots other shuriken off at the speed of lightning? The mechanism didnt even have any gun powder so the logical guess would be it was made with some kind if spring mechnism that launched the blade at itachi all in all theres no way that blades coming from the shuriken faster than lightning. Which is what it would have to be if itachi could dodge or block lightning.

You guys say he can block lightning so that would mean that anything that hits itachi is faster than lightning which on average is 224000 mph. The shuriken would have to be moving 22400 mph plus

Just because something is charged with electricity doesnt mean its as fast as lightning. If that was the case real world weapons today would be devastating. You know how much higher america's death rate from violence would grow let alone the world's.

As chasedown said it is an inconsistent feat therefore it cant be taken seriously. I mean seriously hes too sick to dodge a shuriken one of his peers said he should have easily avoided and yet he can react to lightning.

Yet you're logic is instantly disproven by this single scan. A character throwing a kunai MUCH faster than a MUCH MUCH MUCH faster AND stronger character can move. mmm

Hmm, seems a little fishy. The fact that no one in real life can charge shit they throw with lightning literally debunks that RETARDED assumption you just threw out there, buddy. 👆

Chasedown is retarded, just like you. Itachi didn't bother dodging the shuriken because he knew it wouldn't do much damage and he wasn't trying to kill or even beat Sasuke. He HAD to block Kirin, because he would have died otherwise. All he was trying to do was give Sasuke Amaterasu, which you would know if you weren't a retard fangirl who wants his favorite character to be the strongest.

If anyone is a logical thinker here, it would be me and DP. You're LITERALLY SAYING that even though a shuriken has been PROVEN to be faster than a shinobi's movement, that it hitting Itachi means that he can't dodge lightning. It's not as if the shuriken was thrown by a normal human, dumb ass. It was thrown by someone who can control lightning, and overpower someone who can lift entire small mountains, who also has the sharingan to plan out his attacks.

You're a phucking retard, I swear. ❌

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta

Yet you're logic is instantly disproven by this single scan. A character throwing a kunai MUCH faster than a MUCH MUCH MUCH faster AND stronger character can move. mmm

Hmm, seems a little fishy. The fact that no one in real life can charge shit they throw with lightning literally debunks that RETARDED assumption you just threw out there, buddy. 👆

Chasedown is retarded, just like you. Itachi didn't bother dodging the shuriken because he knew it wouldn't do much damage and he wasn't trying to kill or even beat Sasuke. He HAD to block Kirin, because he would have died otherwise. All he was trying to do was give Sasuke Amaterasu, which you would know if you weren't a retard fangirl who wants his favorite character to be the strongest.

If anyone is a logical thinker here, it would be me and DP. You're LITERALLY SAYING that even though a shuriken has been PROVEN to be faster than a shinobi's movement, that it hitting Itachi means that he can't dodge lightning. It's not as if the shuriken was thrown by a normal human, dumb ass. It was thrown by someone who can control lightning, and overpower someone who can lift entire small mountains, who also has the sharingan to plan out his attacks.

You're a phucking retard, I swear. ❌

The whole point of that fight was to bring sasuke to his limit so he could remove orochimaru's curse mark from his body. Letting yourself get crippled by a shuriken help itachi complete that goal in no way shape or form.

The part that hit itachi wasnt thrown by sasuke it was launched by sasuke pulling line which subsequencially launched a blade from a another compartment of the shuriken.

Do you really believe that it was launched at more than 224000 mph(average speed of lightning) without no means of gunpowder or anything like that? Yes or No

Originally posted by yungz22
The whole point of that fight was to bring sasuke to his limit so he could remove orochimaru's curse mark from his body. Letting yourself get crippled by a shuriken help itachi complete that goal in no way shape or form.

The part that hit itachi wasnt thrown by sasuke it was launched by sasuke pulling line which subsequencially launched a blade from a another compartment of the shuriken.

Do you really believe that it was launched at more than 224000 mph(average speed of lightning) without no means of gunpowder or anything like that? Yes or No

You are retarded.

Explain why Zetsu said he should have easily dodged it then?

Since Itachi reacted to something much faster, and the shurikens exploded faster than they were thrown, yes. If you weren't a biased fangirl you would realize this.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
You are retarded.

Explain why Zetsu said he should have easily dodged it then?

Since Itachi reacted to something much faster, and the shurikens exploded faster than they were thrown, yes. If you weren't a biased fangirl you would realize this.

Zetsu has watched itachi fight countless times im pretty sure he has a good idea of zetsus capability. Yes the shuriken exploded faster than it was thrown but you fail to answer if you think the shuriken shot the blade at itachi faster than the speed of lightning at 224000 mph +.

Im highlighting the inconsistency of the feat. The inconsistency hurt its credibility if the reasoning behind it ignore simple logic.onsistency is what makes a feat plausible is this the only forum site youve ever debated on?

Lol what im saying is how could it even be launched at those speeds with so simple a design especially in a naruto world where the technology is overall much lower than ours today. An object being infused with electricity doesnt automatically make it faster than lightning lol thats an absurd statement to imply. All lightning chakra has done to to weapons in the manga is add to the cutting strength not the speed.

Its not that easy to create lightning speed weapons thatS why we have none in today's world.... If that was the case todays armies would have insane weapons. Can you show me a simply designed weapon in todays world that if charged with electricity would move faster than lightning.

Im making perfect sense but you seem to like twisting my words around an insulting me which is something an immature child would do. How old are you?

Originally posted by yungz22
Yet he inconsistently dodged lightning with shitty reflexes.

Originally posted by yungz22
sensible thinkers

You sure you're a sensible thinker?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
You sure you're a sensible thinker?

You said with shitty reflexes he can dodge lightning that makes no sense because with those same shitty reflexes he got hit with a shuriken. Its inconsistant thats all im saying how dont you guys understand that lol are you guys just trolling me or somthing.

Originally posted by yungz22
Zetsu has watched itachi fight countless times im pretty sure he has a good idea of zetsus capability. Yes the shuriken exploded faster than it was thrown but you fail to answer if you think the shuriken shot the blade at itachi faster than the speed of lightning at 224000 mph +.

Im highlighting the inconsistency of the feat. The inconsistency hurt its credibility if the reasoning behind it ignore simple logic.onsistency is what makes a feat plausible is this the only forum site youve ever debated on?

Lol what im saying is how could it even be launched at those speeds with so simple a design especially in a naruto world where the technology is overall much lower than ours today. An object being infused with electricity doesnt automatically make it faster than lightning lol thats an absurd statement to imply. All lightning chakra has done to to weapons in the manga is add to the cutting strength not the speed.

Its not that easy to create lightning speed weapons thatS why we have none in today's world.... If that was the case todays armies would have insane weapons. Can you show me a simply designed weapon in todays world that if charged with electricity would move faster than lightning.

Im making perfect sense but you seem to like twisting my words around an insulting me which is something an immature child would do. How old are you?

Since you copied and pasted this comment from the other thread, I'll do the same with my reply.

"Oh my ****ing god...

Do you have downs syndrome?

How is it inconsistent when there are dozens of lightning+ speed feats from slower characters? What about Kakashi cutting lightning, or Raikage having FTL reaction speed and lightning+ movement? What about anyone with chidori needing to be as fast as lightning to use it? Itachi blocking a thunder storm coming at him as fast as lightning just adds on to that.

What proof do you have that the shuriken WASN'T lightning speed?

Really? You're using real life science to argue the potency of a cartoon energy source? Anime =/= real life, so you fail. How old are you? To assume that all Sasuke did was charge a shuriken with electricity proves you can't be older than 12. Unless you're also saying that Goku going Super Saiyan doesn't make him able to throw things farther. You're LITERALLY suggesting that adding energy to something can in no way, shaper or form make it faster.

Okay then, using real world logic, how do you explain a bullet traveling faster than the speed of sound? All you do is use kinetic energy from you finger to push a hammer in the gun. So how do you explain that a gun can shoot bullets faster than the speed of sound? It can because you ADD ENERGY from causing an explosion with the gun powder. It's the SAME EXACT PHUCKING PRINCIPAL with the shuriken.

You. Are. Wrong."

👆

Originally posted by yungz22
You said with shitty reflexes he can dodge lightning that makes no sense because with those same shitty reflexes he got hit with a shuriken. Its inconsistant thats all im saying how dont you guys understand that lol are you guys just trolling me or somthing.

"You said with shitty reflexes he can dodge lightning that makes no sense because with those same shitty reflexes he got hit with a shuriken."

Yes, meaning that either he let the shuriken hit him(which is what Zetsu implied), or that the shuriken DID explode faster than lightning.

I don't see what's so hard to understand about this.

Sasuke can throw and detonate shurikens faster than lightning.

Just like when Hashirama and Madara were able to throw stones faster than their fathers could move.

Or when Ikasoruk threw his sword faster than Ichigo could move, even though they were both identical in power.

Originally posted by yungz22
You said with shitty reflexes he can dodge lightning that makes no sense because with those same shitty reflexes he got hit with a shuriken. Its inconsistant thats all im saying how dont you guys understand that lol are you guys just trolling me or somthing.

When did I say he could dodge lightning with shitty reflexes?

You're trolling yourself here. Excellent.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
When did I say he could dodge lightning with shitty reflexes?

You're trolling yourself here. Excellent.

Haha it seemed thats what you were implying if not thank god least now i know your not a dumbass i was gonna start praying for you phew lol

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
"You said with shitty reflexes he can dodge lightning that makes no sense because with those same shitty reflexes he got hit with a shuriken."

Yes, meaning that either he let the shuriken hit him(which is what Zetsu implied), or that the shuriken DID explode faster than lightning.

I don't see what's so hard to understand about this.

Sasuke can throw and detonate shurikens faster than lightning.

Just like when Hashirama and Madara were able to throw stones faster than their fathers could move.

Or when Ikasoruk threw his sword faster than Ichigo could move, even though they were both identical in power.

Pulling with a string = detonation ?
Where did you see an explosion?

Originally posted by yungz22
Pulling with a string = detonation ?
Where did you see an explosion?

On the page.

You know, when the shuriken exploded outwards. 👆

Or are you saying that shooting a gun isn't an explosion?

Originally posted by yungz22
Haha, I wish that that's what you said, because my entire argument was based off of the single premise that you made a typo in your counter-argument, lol. I'm really being falsely optimistic here, because I know that you've just proven everything wrong about my argument, leaving me completely speechless, forcing me to resort to useless banter in a sad attempt to do what I do best: dodge debates that I start.

👆

Fixed it for ya'.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
1. And? I didn't say other Susano'o. I said Itachi's. 👆

Which would imply Itachi's Susano'o's is stronger than Madara's? Say this is your claim, I have no problem if that is your actual claim.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
2. Weren't you the one who criticized me for saying Tien could punch light speed because his attack was "light speed punch"? To quote you on this same matter, "Love the name of an attack meaning everything.". 👆

I actually like that you brought an argument that couldn't be reduced to overrating/underrating Naruto characters for a change.

Seriously, how many people are actually arguing about Mechagodzilla in this thread? It's a frigging waste of space, most arguments could go anywhere else where a Naruto character is featured but they are just swamping the thread. I'm not blaming you nor anyone, just stating my disappointment as a kaiju fan.

Anyways... Names are statements. If the statement is opposed by other proof, we go by the proof. The Super Heat Shield was actually used against Godzilla's breath and seemingly helped Mechagodzilla, But I'll be a sport, rewatch the movie to produce proof that it does resist heat. I think it's there somewhere, it's been a while since I watched the movie.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
3. As far as I recall, Raikage was able to emit more chakra than a biju, and overpower the eight tails in fights. The same eight tails that destroyed an entire giant forest by spinning in place, the same eight tails that shot biju bombs at the level of mountain busting, and the same eight tails that defeated the third Raikage who destroyed a mountain sized layer of Earth with three fingers. Literally NONE of the kaiju have powers able to come even CLOSE to mountain busting. Raikage can literally do that with a punch. 👆

No need to argue about other kaiju, they aren't here.

You just went and gave Raikage the feats of Eight Tails. It doesn't work (unless you post a bijuu bomb from Raikage maybe? Or he using a raiton so big that he can spin and bust a forest?). The Third Raikage is a different character, nice try 😉

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
4. Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but MG was only able to fly when not using any other of his weapons. Flying would only make him an easier target for Itachi's Susano'o to cleave through like butter.

Mechagodzilla II could attack while flying. Take in perspective that the monsters are much bigger than Itachi, they cover great distances with ease with any slight movement.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Even if it wasn't, he still has Yasaka Magatama, which can compete with biju bombs in sheer destructive power and force. 👆

You have an annoying tendency of comparing everything to biju bombs, one would think that only biju bombs have good feats and everything else is moot awesr

Now a serious inquiry, what's Masaka Magatama?

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
On the page.

You know, when the shuriken exploded outwards. 👆

Or are you saying that shooting a gun isn't an explosion?

Perfect example of twisting words around..... Lets just agree to disagree because apparently logic doesnt matter to you as long as naruto characters have these godly capabilities you claim. Your not convincing anyone but yourself of these things.

Lmao at yes a basic rigged shuriken blade moves faster than 224000 mph (facepalm) you literally think a rigged shuriken is fast than the us navy's rail gun

i just think it crazy how much he insanely boost characters capabilities.

I also feel like mechagodzilla would be very formidable. considering his destructive capabilities. Curious question tho do you guys think izanami would work against him. or even genjutsu for that matter because he is a robot if you think about it

Originally posted by Bentley
Which would imply Itachi's Susano'o's is stronger than Madara's? Say this is your claim, I have no problem if that is your actual claim.

I actually like that you brought an argument that couldn't be reduced to overrating/underrating Naruto characters for a change.

Seriously, how many people are actually arguing about Mechagodzilla in this thread? It's a frigging waste of space, most arguments could go anywhere else where a Naruto character is featured but they are just swamping the thread. I'm not blaming you nor anyone, just stating my disappointment as a kaiju fan.

Anyways... Names are statements. If the statement is opposed by other proof, we go by the proof. The Super Heat Shield was actually used against Godzilla's breath and seemingly helped Mechagodzilla, But I'll be a sport, rewatch the movie to produce proof that it does resist heat. I think it's there somewhere, it's been a while since I watched the movie.

No need to argue about other kaiju, they aren't here.

You just went and gave Raikage the feats of Eight Tails. It doesn't work (unless you post a bijuu bomb from Raikage maybe? Or he using a raiton so big that he can spin and bust a forest?). The Third Raikage is a different character, nice try 😉

Mechagodzilla II could attack while flying. Take in perspective that the monsters are much bigger than Itachi, they cover great distances with ease with any slight movement.

You have an annoying tendency of comparing everything to biju bombs, one would think that only biju bombs have good feats and everything else is moot awesr

Now a serious inquiry, what's Masaka Magatama?

Now we're putting Madara in this? It is fact that he would shit on all of the Kaiju at the same time, by unsheathing his perfect Susano'o sword. Seriously though, Itachi has the ability to stab MG through the chest and instantly seal him for all eternity. You still have come up with no counter for that.

I agree, this thread is garbage. Mostly because of how obvious it is that Itachi solo's. I have watched both mechagodzilla movies. What happened was MG was able to absorb the heat from most nuclear beams, like the ones Godzilla showed to be able to use. However, depending on the heat of the attack, it could penetrate through his outer shell and heat up his core. This was witnessed when he couldn't fully absorb Rodan's Uranium heat ray, and was bright orange when he attempted to, and was open to attacks for a few moments before he could cool back down. Amaterasu could potentially be hot enough to do the same, as it instantly scorched a giant hole in the belly of a creature the breaths fire.

Then there was no need to argue about the other Susano'o, was there? I was saying none of the Kaiju including Godzilla, or MG have the ability to mountain bust. The closest thing to which was MG cutting through a hill top when he missed Godzilla with his orange beam thing.

MG 2 could only attack BY flying, as in ramming an opponent whilst in flight. Itachi is fast enough to instantly jam a Totsuka blade in his ass, and the fights over.

No, I gave the fourth Raikage the feats of the third Raikage. You know, because it was stated that he was the strongest and fastest of all the Raikage's, meaning that if the third Raikage could do something with his Raiton armor based on shear strength, then so could the fourth Raikage. I.e. busting a mountain sized layer of sand, Earth and Rubber. 👆

Yasaka Magatama? The long ranged attack Itachi used that was equivalent to Killer Bee's eight tailed giant Biju bomb and Naruto's KCM Super Oodama Rasen shuriken. 👆

Originally posted by yungz22
Perfect example of twisting words around..... Lets just agree to disagree because apparently logic doesnt matter to you as long as naruto characters have these godly capabilities you claim. Your not convincing anyone but yourself of these things.

Lmao at yes a basic rigged shuriken blade moves faster than 224000 mph (facepalm) you literally think a rigged shuriken is fast than the us navy's rail gun

lol, again, you're comparing an anime to shit in real life. The feats are there. You still haven't disproved it ONCE, so thanks for the concession. 😉

Yes, it obviously is if it can hit someone who was able to react to and dodge lightning. 👆

Originally posted by chasedown
i just think it crazy how Yungz and i think that he insanely boosts characters capabilities, when he's literally giving scans, statements and facts, and our only counter is "do you really think it's that fast?". golly, he must be a silly-head if you know what i mean.

Face it, this is what you really meant. 👆