Georges Batroc vs Batman

Originally posted by FrothByte
Bane never cleared concrete walls. He punched a pillar of questionable material, there's no proof that it was pure concrete.

Besides, Bane is not as strong as Cap. He's not as fast nor is he as agile. The fact that Batroc was able to take hits from Cap without any lasting injuries shows that he's quite durable and should be able to take Bane's hits... unless you're telling me that Bane is as strong as Cap.

And for that matter, why are we discussing how hard Bane can hit anyway? We're talking about Batroc vs. Batman.

Because Batman related characters are his Van Zan.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Because Batman related characters are his Van Zan.

Wrong again. I don't even like the Batman movies. But I give credit where it is due.

You for one have never even seen Winter Soldier, yet you speak of it as like you have.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So beating Bane, a larger more powerful man who can break concrete in his prime while in a weakened state is not impressive to you. Keep flying that french flag. 😆 😆

1. Movie Bane is smaller than Batman, Cap. A, or Batroc

2. Prove to me that Bane can break concrete, because all we see is him punching a pillar that "looks" concrete but doesn't behave like concrete.

3. Batman beat Bane by destroying his mask and exploiting his weakness. Batman by no means outskilled or outfought Bane.

4. Batroc doesn't have a "mask" weakness that Batman can exploit

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So beating Bane, a larger more powerful man who can break concrete in his prime while in a weakened state is not impressive to you. Keep flying that french flag. 😆 😆

now i just have a feeling you're being a racist ****

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Movie Bane is smaller than Batman, Cap. A, or Batroc

2. Prove to me that Bane can break concrete, because all we see is him punching a pillar that "looks" concrete but doesn't behave like concrete.

3. Batman beat Bane by destroying his mask and exploiting his weakness. Batman by no means outskilled or outfought Bane.

4. Batroc doesn't have a "mask" weakness that Batman can exploit

1. But they made him look bigger for the role, this is common in all movies.

2. I guess stone pillars that look like stone or concrete are not concrete.

3. Exploiting a weakness is outfighting you opponent. Watch MMA or any fight for that matter. Bane thought he could beat Batman again, he was wrong.

4. He has a face just like anyone else, and you smash it long enough and it will fail. Pretty sure thats how he got taken out the first time.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
1. But they made him look bigger for the role, this is common in all movies.

2. I guess stone pillars that look like stone or concrete are not concrete.

3. Exploiting a weakness is outfighting you opponent. Watch MMA or any fight for that matter. Bane thought he could beat Batman again, he was wrong.

4. He has a face just like anyone else, and you smash it long enough and it will fail. Pretty sure thats how he got taken out the first time.

1. Check out the fight scenes between him and Bats, he's not exactly bigger.

2. A pillar that looks like stone/concrete but doesn't behave like stone/concrete is most probably not stone/concrete. In any case, if you really think he's strong enough to punch holes through concrete then feel free to prove it.

3. Exploiting a weakness is not cheating and is definitely a valid means of winning the fight. But let's not pretend that Batman was able to outfight Bane. Without the mask weakness, he probably wouldn't have been able to beat Bane.

4. Batroc has a face just like everyone else, and so does Bats. And Batman will get hit quite a few times on his face before he can hit Batroc's face. Because Batroc is quite a bit faster than either Bane or Batman... unless you're completely blind.

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Check out the fight scenes between him and Bats, he's not exactly bigger.

2. A pillar that looks like stone/concrete but doesn't behave like stone/concrete is most probably not stone/concrete. In any case, if you really think he's strong enough to punch holes through concrete then feel free to prove it.

3. Exploiting a weakness is not cheating and is definitely a valid means of winning the fight. But let's not pretend that Batman was able to outfight Bane. Without the mask weakness, he probably wouldn't have been able to beat Bane.

4. Batroc has a face just like everyone else, and so does Bats. And Batman will get hit quite a few times on his face before he can hit Batroc's face. Because Batroc is quite a bit faster than either Bane or Batman... unless you're completely blind.

1. Bale is a lot bigger in real life, so they had to make Hardy look as big or bigger then batman for screen appearance, the fact that he lifted him over his head being smaller as you say with batman being bigger and fully armored makes your argument less valid.

2. What is right and true will always be right and true, concrete is concrete. Let me guess that building was made out of paper mache to you.

3. He got back in shape after having his back broken and beat a guy stronger then him and the guys blows had less effect of him the second time around after training himself up again.

4. Batman has always found a way to take down any of his opponents, some jumping guy that can do kick flips is not taking him down, he will find a way and break him.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial

4. Batman has always found a way to take down any of his opponents, some jumping guy that can do kick flips is not taking him down, he will find a way and break him.

And this is why it's almost impossible to try and debate with Batman fanboys. Your whole argument to how Batman can beat an opponent boils down to 'He's Batman, he'll find a way."

Maybe its just me but I do remember Baleman getting worked by some dogs...just saying.

That aside even though Captain America beat Batroc soundly, then funny thing is Batroc was still conscious. Hell his fight with him even before Cap got serious shows me that he'd work Baleman over.

Originally posted by FrothByte
And this is why it's almost impossible to try and debate with Batman fanboys. Your whole argument to how Batman can beat an opponent boils down to 'He's Batman, he'll find a way."

Agreed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
And this is why it's almost impossible to try and debate with Batman fanboys. Your whole argument to how Batman can beat an opponent boils down to 'He's Batman, he'll find a way."

I don't even like Batman, Superman and Captain America or more my style, you just came to the realization that a some off beat acrobat that got owned in the first 5 minutes of the movie has nothing more then some fancy tricks against Batman who has taken down rooms full of assassins trained at his level, rooms full of armed thugs, 3 feats of movies proving he's a capable warrior.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Agreed.

Agreed, you have never seen the movie, can't spell the word iPad, and generally have no clue what your talking about as you have never even seen the movie

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I don't even like Batman, Superman and Captain America or more my style, you just came to the realization that a some off beat acrobat that got owned in the first 5 minutes of the movie has nothing more then some fancy tricks against Batman who has taken down rooms full of assassins trained at his level, rooms full of armed thugs, 3 feats of movies proving he's a capable warrior.

Batroc got owned by Captain America. Movie Batman <<<<< Movie Captain America. You can call them fancy tricks all you want, fact is Batman has never fought anyone with the kind of skills Batroc has displayed.

Batman may be good at fighting mobs of questionable skill, but he sucks at 1 on 1 fighting. He's unable to beat Ra's in pure skill alone, thus he had to trick him into forgetting about his environment. He also couldn't beat Bane in skill, and only beat him via mask weakness. Heck even Joker gave the Batman a hard time, and Joker ain't no trained fighter.

If Scarecrow wasn't such a wuss, he probably would have given Bruce a fight.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Batroc got owned by Captain America. Movie Batman <<<<< Movie Captain America. You can call them fancy tricks all you want, fact is Batman has never fought anyone with the kind of skills Batroc has displayed.

Batman may be good at fighting mobs of questionable skill, but he sucks at 1 on 1 fighting. He's unable to beat Ra's in pure skill alone, thus he had to trick him into forgetting about his environment. He also couldn't beat Bane in skill, and only beat him via mask weakness. Heck even Joker gave the Batman a hard time, and Joker ain't no trained fighter.

So an entire room of trained assassins on his level up in the mountains and defeating stronger back breakers is no skill. As well as armed thugs and swat teams without killing any of them while both groups are trying to kill him is no skill? Ra was his superior. Who do you think trained him?

Joker has always had insane durability in all movies. Might want to go watch them.

Originally posted by KingD19
If Scarecrow wasn't such a wuss, he probably would have given Bruce a fight.

Go figure you would side with the scrawny wuss type. 😆 😆

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So an entire room of trained assassins on his level up in the mountains and defeating stronger back breakers is no skill. As well as armed thugs and swat teams without killing any of them while both groups are trying to kill him is no skill? Ra was his superior. Who do you think trained him?

Joker has always had insane durability in all movies. Might want to go watch them.

Like I said, show me one individual that Batman fought that actually showed matching or at least similar to Batroc's.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Like I said, show me one individual that Batman fought that actually showed matching or at least similar to Batroc's.

So he can engage and entire room of assassins who similar skill ability have 3 movies worth of feats, but in your eyes, because he never faced someone exactly the same as Batroc on screen he loses, because he fought with Captain America for minute and lost hard. 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So he can engage and entire room of assassins who similar skill ability have 3 movies worth of feats, but in your eyes, because he never faced someone exactly the same as Batroc on screen he loses, because he fought with Captain America for minute and lost hard. 😆 😆 😆

He faced an entire room of trained assassins who didn't do crap, who didn't have any feats to back them up. Considering that Ra's commented that Bruce Wayne was his best student even though he's only been there for a short time, just goes to show that the rest of the students weren't really all that.

I don't need someone who moves exactly as Batroc does, just show me one opponent that Batman decidedly beat who was of comparative skill to that which Batroc portrayed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
He faced an entire room of trained assassins who didn't do crap, who didn't have any feats to back them up. Considering that Ra's commented that Bruce Wayne was his best student even though he's only been there for a short time, just goes to show that the rest of the students weren't really all that.

I don't need someone who moves exactly as Batroc does, just show me one opponent that Batman decidedly beat who was of comparative skill to that which Batroc portrayed.

You didn't read what I said

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
But in your eyes, because he never faced someone exactly the same as Batroc on screen he loses, because he fought with Captain America for minute and lost hard. 😆 😆 😆

I read it and answered it. You however keep trying to avoid my question. Show me one opponent that Batman beat soundly who showed skill at the level of Batroc.

And for some reason you think that Batman can smash Batroc in the face but Batroc can't do the same to Bats?

Actually forget it. I don't know why I'm still debating with you considering that you think "Batman will always find a way".