Phoenix vs. Surtur

Originally posted by abhilegend
Still using that nonsense as your go to hiding excuse? Don't worry, it'll pass.

Who cares? They were recalled by Thor in canon 616 books. These trilogies weren't.

Nope.

So, you are clinging to that still?

I proved it non canon by its own scans. Do you have it to stop trolling and do what needs to be done? I think not.

Your logic says otherwise.

Yes.

Considering that formspring and IGN are now exceptions to the rule, I say wtf, let's put in cbr, comicvine and herochat as well. Since you know, writers have actually frequented these boards.

All you did was prove that it was part of a different Ragnarok cycle. Which makes the story non-canon how again? And considering as Fraction has written in his books, gods in general themselves are just stories that keep getting revised, so that's not much to go on.

Originally posted by Epicurus
If you consider your own hypocrisy to be nonsensical, then who am I to judge?

All you did was prove that it was part of a different Ragnarok cycle. Which makes the story non-canon how again? And considering as Fraction has written in his books, gods in general themselves are just stories that keep getting revised, so that's not much to go on.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You sure like to hear your own words.

About a story being non canon?

So, the writer/editor/the book showing the book to be non canon don't mean anything but YOUR opinion means that its canon. Gotta love that logic.

About Zeus performing that feat mostly under his own power. Which is not much of a stretch, since all-father Herc was able to teleport Galactus and the Surfer against their wills as well in that arc. Not to mention that when Galactus let out his skyfather-buster, Hera, Ares and Herc survived it as well. So a highly weakened Galactus being defeated by a moderately amped, dead skyfather isn't beyond resonable doubt, especially when the same moderately amped dead skyfather was eventually killed/incapacitated by another high-end skyfather in the very same arc.

It doesn't mean anything going by your logic that all interviews are non-admissible. It's not too late to climb out of this hole you've dug yourself into.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Only when they are the absolute truth. Which they are in this case.

It doesn't mean anything going by your logic that all interviews are non-admissible. It's not too late to climb out of this hole you've dug yourself into.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope.

That is strictly prohibited by rules here. So? You can call him being moderately amped or what not, he was still amped. Case closed.

Heh, like you've done anything here but ignore every evidence shown that shows the thor story was non canon. But good job throwing random strawman arguments every page when you've no argument here.

What, proving my claim based on the on-panel stuff itself? Because in case you missed it, I was using comparisons from the comic itself instead of just Pak's words. Though you need to be reminded once again that formspring, IGN and tumblr are prohibited by the rules as well then.

He was also dead, and got defeated by all-father Herc who also survived Galactus' supposed skyfather-busting eyebeams. You can continue to deny that little tidbit all you want, doesn't change the fact that it happened and is canon.

What evidence? The only evidence you have provided is dismissible going by your own standards. As I said, you still have time to climb out from the hole you've dug yourself into. Just don't expect any help from my side.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Yes.

As I said, you still have time to climb out from the hole you've dug yourself into. Just don't expect any help from my side.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope.

You are using that to boost what is actually shown on panel performance of characters. I posted it to show the story was non canon. So no, it wasn't a comparison.

Who cares? Being dead wasn't about having power level. Abomination was dead too and he beat the shit out of Hulk.

They aren't. Anyway, what does that has to do with the topic at hand? Nice quan logic there though.

Nope, I am just pointing out the obvious, which Pak separately confirms in an off-panel interview. You being you deny it by citing the board rules regarding online interviews, but then go full hypocrite and use everything from IGN, tumblr to formspring to prove your point about another feat on another thread.

You do. Yes it does, as in death the only on-panel confirmed boost he got was being an unkillable zombie thanks to Mikaboshi's tampering and Mistress Death's departure from that plane of existence. Galactus was severely weakened in that arc, and a severely weakened Galactus being overwhelmed by a skyfather at full power is fully within reason, seeing how he seemed to struggle to overpower Odin for brief moments despite having fed a planet prior to that fight.

Yes they are. They absolutely are. You didn't write the forum rules, so don't act like some religious goon who selectively decides to uphold and ignore certain tenets of the scriptures of his faith. If all interviews are non-admissible, then that includes your formspring citations as well. You don't get to make random exceptions to clear cut forum rules, kiddo.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Yes.

Nope, I am just pointing out the obvious, which Pak separately confirms in an off-panel interview. You being you deny it by citing the board rules regarding online interviews, but then go full hypocrite and use everything from IGN, tumblr to formspring to prove your point about another feat on another thread.

You do. Yes it does, as in death the only on-panel confirmed boost he got was being an unkillable zombie thanks to Mikaboshi's tampering and Mistress Death's departure from that plane of existence. Galactus was severely weakened in that arc, and a severely weakened Galactus being overwhelmed by a skyfather at full power is fully within reason, seeing how he seemed to struggle to overpower Odin for brief moments despite having fed a planet prior to that fight.

Yes they are. They absolutely are. You didn't write the forum rules, so don't act like some religious goon who selectively decides to uphold and ignore certain tenets of the scriptures of his faith. If all interviews are non-admissible, then that includes your formspring citations as well. You don't get to make random exceptions to clear cut forum rules, kiddo.

Good luck with that, the story is non canon.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Repeating yourself again and again wouldn't change anything. You're just spamming now.

Good luck with that, the story is non canon.

So you agree then that interviews are applicable? Good.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Repeating myself would be just me saying repeatedly that Pak's cbr interview is applicable. Instead I am citing facts from the Chaos War event itself which support my claims as opposed to being a hypocrite with which board interviews apply and which don't.

So you agree then that interviews are applicable? Good.

I only said the thor stories are non canon.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, you're just repeating yourself. No point in arguing with you at this point.

I only said the thor stories are non canon.

You used online interviews though. When just pages ago you claimed that all interviews are inadmissible.

Originally posted by Epicurus
I am providing reasoning apart from Pak's words, wherein a considerably weakened Galactus is outperformed by a high-end skyfather in the form of Herc. You refusing to attempt to acknowledge(let alone debate) that is not my problem.

You used online interviews though. When just pages ago you claimed that all interviews are inadmissible.

I used them as just to show what the writers think about. But do carry on and repeat yourself.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And to reiterate myself, who ****ing cares? You want to use Pak's words in a threa

Originally posted by abhilegend
I used them

Originally posted by Epicurus
I'll do so when you do the same in the Thor thread. It's not your way or the high way unfortunately, kiddo.

Point proven.

Anyway, talking to you is like talking to a wall. No matter what you'll just listen to your own words. Go ahead and enjoy your last word here which you so much crave in every thread. Just like quan, I might add.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Heh, so you're just trolling for no reason at all?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What did I even do in the thor thread?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Anyway, talking to you is like talking to a wall. No matter what you'll just listen to your own words. Go ahead and enjoy your last word here which you so much crave in every thread. Just like quan, I might add.

I don't debate for last words, and have given them to others when I was honestly, objectively wrong. You give up because you can't finish a discussion you started:

Originally posted by abhilegend
[QUOTE=14681957]Originally posted by Epicurus
[B]Surtur wins.

Also, Surtur still wins.

So predictable.

😂

Anyway Phoenix wins. Keep fighting the good fight though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So predictable.

😂

Anyway Phoenix wins. Keep fighting the good fight though.

Phoenix has no combat feats whatsoever to indicate that it could take on Surtur. It's low showings are also a tad bit more embarrassing than Surtur's. So then tell me, based on what, apart from all the hyperbole and the theoretical power levels, does the Phoenix win?

You are trying to restart a debate after I freely gave you the last word?

😂

I guess Rachel Summers defeating Galactus never happenef 😕

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are trying to restart a debate after I freely gave you the last word?

😂

Originally posted by guy222
I guess Rachel Summers defeating Galactus never happenef 😕