Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Diana IS more powerful than Valkyrie.In a comprable scenario Diana would've beaten Valkyrie.
If Diana had attacked Thor under similar conditions she would've beaten Thor.
Like I said, full power Valkyrie, depending on the incarnation, is write up there with Wonder Woman in the DCnU.
If Valkyrie had gotten a clean shot like that, Diana would have probably been dead tbh.
Maybe, maybe not.
You're giving the win to Diana because what, less then Superman gave Thor a fight? The same can easily be said of Diana. She once had a competitive fight with Katana, no?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like I said, full power Valkyrie, depending on the incarnation, is write up there with Wonder Woman in the DCnU.If Valkyrie had gotten a clean shot like that, Diana would have probably been dead tbh.
Maybe, maybe not.
You're giving the win to Diana because what, less then Superman gave Thor a fight? The same can easily be said of Diana. She once had a competitive fight with Katana, no?
Originally posted by abhilegend
That wasn't ever indicated to having his strength augmented.
We already know Young Thor is crazy durable and easily herald level based on God of Thunder imo.
Why would you assume he's weak instead of the opposite for Apocalypse who is rocking a never before seen upgrade? Fyi, historically, donning armor based on celestial tech has always increased attributes like strength.
Archangel under the same writer was a lot stronger and he didn't even have the Deathseed or the ceremonial armor.
Originally posted by abhilegend
They mean very little and you know it.Now you're saying the narration was wrong?
Who is an unknown at this time. And they will do worse to young Thor.
But Diana's record against top tiers is pretty much spotless at this time.
You mean being butchered and battered by a Trans level opponent or surviving the conditions of a Star (Which I highly doubt Diana can do personally)? Which one do you prefer we ignore exactly?
Nope, I'm just pointing out the circumstances.
We saw the Kryptonian exoskeletons giving him a fair enough fight. And Superman bounced back from his punch IIRC. Safe to assume he's typical Doomsday level.
Why? He's already taken on worse in Gorr and triumphed.
And Young Thor has been busy fighting mostly beyond herald level threats and done surprisingly well.
I don't care if you think Diana wins, that's fair enough, but like usual, your logic is twisted and revolves around lowballing.
A perfectly good thread and we're already comparing how badly Wonder Woman/Thor have sucked, not how good they've been.
Every goddamn time in every goddamn thread it's the same thing. 😬
Not going to let it ruin this one, you want to continue this discussion make a battle zone or start your own thread.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like I said, full power Valkyrie, depending on the incarnation, is write up there with Wonder Woman in the DCnU.If Valkyrie had gotten a clean shot like that, Diana would have probably been dead tbh.
Maybe, maybe not.
You're giving the win to Diana because what, less then Superman gave Thor a fight? The same can easily be said of Diana. She once had a competitive fight with Katana, no?
Diana wins because of superior skill, strategy and Thor's temperament.
I've stated as much.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIs he? He was solidly outperformed by Adult Thor.
We already know Young Thor is crazy durable and easily herald level based on God of Thunder imo.
Why would you assume he's weak instead of the opposite for Apocalypse who is rocking a never before seen upgrade? Fyi, historically, donning armor based on celestial tech has always increased attributes like strength.Has it? Or you're just saying that because it was Thor on the receiving end.
Archangel under the same writer was a lot stronger and he didn't even have the Deathseed or the ceremonial armor.What a random idea.
You mean being butchered and battered by a Trans level opponent or surviving the conditions of a Star (Which I highly doubt Diana can do personally)? Which one do you prefer we ignore exactly?Both. Getting beaten up isn't a feat or Sodam Yat would be the most badass being ever. Stars and shit are ireelevant.
Nope, I'm just pointing out the circumstances.Nope.
We saw the Kryptonian exoskeletons giving him a fair enough fight.Doomsday is metamorphosing it seems and getting more powerful.
And Superman bounced back from his punch IIRC. Safe to assume he's typical Doomsday level.Then he would do the same to Thor too.
Why? He's already taken on worse in Gorr and triumphed.Alone?
And Young Thor has been busy fighting mostly beyond herald level threats and done surprisingly well.Getting beaten up isn't doing well.
I don't care if you think Diana wins, that's fair enough, but like usual, your logic is twisted and revolves around lowballing.What lowballing? Are we using only high feats for both characters here?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusAll things being equal, I'm gonna say WW. Only because young Thor was so brash, arrogant and obnoxious that WW would be in full Amazon PMS mode. osheet
1) Thor has his axe/sword. Wonder Woman has her sword/shield. Pure close combat encounter.2) Wonder Woman can fly, but, Thor can use his lightning.
3) H2h.