Beta Ray Bill vs DCNU Superman

Originally posted by h1a8
Bias?
It's very reasonable to see a stronger, much faster, and more mobile character stomping another character that has many more powers.

Why? Because it takes more time to decide between which power to use if more powers are available. Time that isn't there when fighting someone who is very fast.

Also Superman knows the that hammer is the source of a Bills great power. He can just knock the hammer away from him and stomp him accordingly. Or simply beat him to the punch (attack before he does).

The people who say superman is no longer the top dog, clearly dont read Dcnu. they only judge by the scans in the ownage thread where trolls like carver just waiting to post the weekly scan of superman getting punched by someone.

Originally posted by Golgo13
There are a few beings as powerful, if not more.

We're not talking about Phantom Stranger or Zatanna here.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Bill.

I don't think Superman has quite enough good feats yet, but he's definitely DC's top dog...

Unless all people are reading is the book written by Soule.

Originally posted by -Pr-
We're not talking about Phantom Stranger or Zatanna here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ugh, don't remind me of that cluster****. Its McDuffie syndrome all over again.

Yes, it is. and it sucks that wonder woman is being used in this way.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Zatanna was there when Superman was stated to be the most powerful being on earth.

that's my point. people who can pull spells out of their ass that can do things superman can't do might be more powerful than him in a broader sense, but he's still regarded as the top dog either way.

just like he was before the reboot.

As of now I'd put Manjobber over Kal, but I know it will most likely change the first time they fight.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yes, it is. and it sucks that wonder woman is being used in this way.

that's my point. people who can pull spells out of their ass that can do things superman can't do might be more powerful than him in a broader sense, but he's still regarded as the top dog either way.

just like he was before the reboot.

I hope he beats the shit out of her after breaking up with her.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
As of now I'd put Manjobber over Kal, but I know it will most likely change the first time they fight.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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I hope he beats the shit out of her after breaking up with her.
Whoa, don't go that far. Superman was directly stated to be more powerful than him.

I'm annoyed that they're breaking up so soon after getting together, but DC's writers were petty ***** to begin with, so I think it's better that they break up for the time being.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm annoyed that they're breaking up so soon after getting together, but DC's writers were petty ***** to begin with, so I think it's better that they break up for the time being.

I thought Johns said that they'd be breaking up after Forever Evil was over?

I may be misremembering, but I could have sworn that was what I read.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I thought Johns said that they'd be breaking up after Forever Evil was over?

I may be misremembering, but I could have sworn that was what I read.

You would've noticed that Lois was never allowed to have such a moment with Superman while he was with diana.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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I hope he beats the shit out of her after breaking up with her.
Whoa, don't go that far. Superman was directly stated to be more powerful than him.

And MM was stated as being more powerful than Superman. My bad, half of Jon power level was stated as being more powerful. Statements don't mean much.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think that there was any timeline stated for it, but going by this cover I think Superman: Doomed will bring the doom to this relationship.

You would've noticed that Lois was never allowed to have such a moment with Superman while he was with diana.

Don't be so sure; plenty of writers have shown that they don't give a **** about the relationship, and will have him interact with Lois inappropriately as much as they want.

Originally posted by carver9
And MM was stated as being more powerful than Superman. My bad, half of Jon power level was stated as being more powerful. Statements don't mean much.

then stop using them. or do they only matter when it's about characters you like?

-Pr- why are you so aggressive.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
-Pr- why are you so aggressive.

**** you, you ****ing ****er!

sneer

Originally posted by -Pr-
We're not talking about Phantom Stranger or Zatanna here.

I wasn't talking about Zatanna, but more like Captain Atom and maybe Swamp Thing. MM has been consistent overall as well.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I wasn't talking about Zatanna, but more like Captain Atom and maybe Swamp Thing. MM has been consistent overall as well.

Swamp Thing goes in to the "other" category, as would Atom imo.

J'onn is nice and all, but will almost always play second fiddle in direct confrontations.

Originally posted by -Pr-
**** you, you ****ing ****er!

sneer

bawling

Originally posted by carver9
And MM was stated as being more powerful than Superman. My bad, half of Jon power level was stated as being more powerful. Statements don't mean much.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Don't be so sure; plenty of writers have shown that they don't give a **** about the relationship, and will have him interact with Lois inappropriately as much as they want.

then stop using them. or do they only matter when it's about characters you like?