Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No, you aren't making anything up, though I did have to double check all your claims because you have made up things in the past (numerous times).
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You are looking at something decent but making it out to be extraordinary.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
So? That doesn't mean he's on Vitiate's tier. Nox beat the shit out of him. If Sidious and a Dark Jedi shared the same accolade, that doesn't mean they are on the same level!
Also, Nox isn't a natural individual either; he augmented his power with combined might of several Sith spirits/entities. This is why he was became so damn overwhelming.
Technically and logically, when Thanaton fought Nox for the last time, he was dealing with several powerful Force-users and not just one.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I never claimed such. I rather claimed instead Thanaton's lightning isn't that power as you make it out to be.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Pfft, doubt it. I read some of his comics, he was struggling with Vitiate's secret apprentice. That doesn't make him on Wyyrlok's level.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
And Wyyrlok would have everything he had plus 4000 years more.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Just was Wyyrlok has performed actions with his powers that Thanaton hasn't demonstrated?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"admired" is not the term I would use. Rather "respected" fits better.
Originally posted by Nephthys
As Ant said, so what? That only means that he's very powerful, as with all these guys. It didn't stop Nox from utterly stomping him. Nox literally backhanded Thanatons lightning away and forced Thanaton to his knees.
Nox isn't a natural, he augmented his power with combined might of several spirits/entities. No wonder, he outgunned Thanaton after such level of augmentation.
Originally posted by Nephthys
And I'd only put Nox on par at best with Malgus considering Malgus forced her and the rest of the Imperial Strike team to their knees with lightning, blasted them away with a Force Wave and gave them a hell of a good fight, at one point choking 3 of them and fighting the last one.
Nox's strength = himself + entities x 6
Originally posted by Nephthys
So it needs to go:Vitiate
Malgus + NoxThen I put the Emperors 2nd Wrath because they beat Baras and Baras is easily as powerful as Thanaton considering the entire Dark Council was afraid of him and didn't act against him, Thanaton included.
So then its:
2nd Emperor's Wrath
Baras + Thanaton.
TOR Inquisitor storyline represents clash of the titans to be honest, two supremely powerful Lords compete for supremacy and one comes out on the top.
Care to elaborate?
No, I am pointing out why Thanaton is extraordinary because he is canonically implied as such.
Thanaton is the TIER of "supremely powerful" individuals. Deal with it.
And you conveniently forgot that Emperor's apprentice was very powerful in the ways of the Force and the duel was still not one-sided? Did you also conveniently forgot that Thanaton (Prime) literally one-shot his Teneb Kel self with his powers, something which even Emperor's apprentice couldn't pull off?
Prove it.
Keep in mind that the full extent of talents of Thanaton haven't been disclosed
If Thanaton is on Vitiate tier, explain to me how he can get destroyed by Nox, who in return was forced to his knees by Malgus, who in return is stated lesser then Vitiate.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Example: The time you were discussing that Thanton's fight with I believe the Emperor's apprentice nearly destroyed the entire ship but NewGuy pointed out it was a mere room.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You mean a mere hyperbole accolade? Malak is also said to have "extraordinary" powers. Guess he's on Vitiate level.
Thanaton is featured as the primary rival of Sith Inquisitor, a story dedicated to greatest champions of the dark side. Thanaton's promotion is in accordance with this kind of story setting. Every character in SWTOR have been promoted in accordance with its story dynamics.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Wait, so your tiers are designed by hyperboles?
This alone speaks for itself, Intrepid was right with "Might as well defer me to SWL on TOR battles."
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The emperor's apprentice is a joke. To think dueling with her is near the likes of holding your own against Krayt is a joke. And furthermore, prove Thanaton can one-shot his former self.
So a Force-user of this caliber is a joke, really?
How blind can you be, you have started to give trollish vibe now.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Okay.
Thanatons Death: 3641 BBY
Wyyrloks Reign: 138 ABY
3641-138: 3503 years
I concede, it would be 3503 years more, not 4000. My mistake.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Which means everything you say about his sorcery his speculation and worth nothing.
I have disclosed some useful information in this thread already. Pay attention to it.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
If Thanaton is on Vitiate tier, explain to me how he can get destroyed by Nox, who in return was forced to his knees by Malgus, who in return is stated lesser then Vitiate.
Supremely powerful individuals aren't necessarily equals themselves. TIER based ranking ensures that individuals get differentiated in broader fashion and not in narrow fashion.
Nox isn't a natural being, he augmented his power with combined might of several entities. He single-handedly approached strength level of like 7 powerful individuals which is too much for any mortal to cope with.
Nox might be the most powerful Force-user in the galaxy in absence of the Sith Emperor.
This thread has now became more of a joke then a real debate.
OP actually minimized the developments of that battle, I properly highlighted it. Emperor's apprentice did destroy the entire space station by targeting its main core system.
Not everything is hyperbole. Thanaton received such an accolade in an encyclopedia medium which is BIG. Authors tend to be careful when promoting characters in an encyclopedia medium.
So a Force-user of this caliber is a joke, really?
How blind can you be, you have started to give trollish vibe now.
Killing multiple opponents in seconds
moving missiles
hurl large objects easily
can fight on pair with a powerful swordsman
great strength/pain tolerance
How is timeline relevant to what Wyyrlok III knows about the ancients?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I expect more informed responses from you.Nox isn't a natural, he augmented his power with combined might of several spirits/entities. No wonder, he outgunned Thanaton after such level of augmentation.
Someone being called supremely powerful does not necessarily put them above other exceptionally powerful Force users. It is simply hyperbolic praise.
And yet Nox was still tossed around by Malgus, should they fight. Do not forget that.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Actually, Nox is possibly superior to any mortal.Nox's strength = himself + entities x 6
I highly doubt he's superior to the Hero of Tython. And I would say that at best he is on par with Darth Malgus and the Barsen'thor. Don't forget that she defeated a being who was draining power from hundreds of Jedi Masters, on top of already being a powerful Ancient Sith Lord.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Neph, I respect your opinion but I didn't declare Thanaton as a supremely powerful being at personally capacity.TOR Inquisitor storyline represents clash of the titans to be honest, two supremely powerful Lords compete for supremacy and one comes out on the top.
I know. But a single accolade is not enough to prove Thanaton to be as powerful as you think he is. Particularly such a hyperbolic one.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I dont care as much about him saying "Thanaton>>>>>>>Wyyrlok" as I do him actually bringing feats to the table. He's done more than bring up "one hyperbolic accolade", in case you haven't been paying attention.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
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Come now, lets not bring CW mini stuff into this.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I dont care as much about him saying "Thanaton>>>>>>>Wyyrlok" as I do him actually bringing feats to the table. He's done more than bring up "one hyperbolic accolade", in case you haven't been paying attention.
Perhaps someone can post Wyyrloks fight with Krayt? From what I hear, he did very well. Or how about Wyyrlok defeating Darth Anddeddu in a battle of sorcery? Meanwhile:
