The Battlezone! Round 1 Match 3: Darth Wyyrlok III vs. Darth Thanaton

Of course, but I have more then one accolades and don't always use hyperbole accolades. When was the last time you say me bringing up the "heart of the Force" quote? I also don't make baseless assumptions.

Legend, Nox and Thanaton seriously shouldn't be in the same Tier. There is obviously a large gap between them.

As to the actual fight, I gave my thoughts on the first page. Wyyrlok gave a good fight to Krayt. Thanaton was stomped by Nox. /thread????

Yeah i'll let the debate rage on for another day before the verdict tho.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
How about you guys argue about thanaton's abilities and Wyyrlok's abilities and see how they stack up? 👆

Thanaton, at his prime, could unleash powers potent enough to literally 'one-shot' majority, even some legitimately powerful Force-users. Thanaton was basically a Sith Inquisitor (Sorcerer) with access to enormous wealth of Sith archives within the Empire (He assumed the responsibility of sphere of ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE within the Sith Empire).

SWTOR(E) reveals that Nox acquired mastery of Force-walking technique on special basis to combat Thanaton because their was no other way to defeat such a powerful Sith Lord. Force-walking ritual permitted Nox (an already powerful Force-user) to augment his power by consuming dark side entities. Nox would proceed to consume the power of 6 spirits and wield such level of might to overcome Thanaton.

In addition to being extremely powerful in the ways of the Force, Thanaton was also a master swordsman. He was regarded as among the greatest champions of the Empire and he trained an apprentice whose dueling skills were rumored to be unparalleled in the whole mythos.

As far as Wyyrlok III is concerned, he is a decent warrior and sorcerer in his own right but he doesn't matches the credentials and strength of Nox (not even close). Wyyrlok III didn't acquired mastery of Force-walking technique and didn't had the option to augment his power in ways like Nox could. At maximum, Wyyrlok III is a powerful Sorcerer but he lacks the prerequisites needed to overcome a foe like Thanaton (to be honest, few can hope to take on Thanaton).

Make an informed decision; double-check all of the information about Thanaton in this thread, if you feel the need to.

Wait. So the tournament's winner is decided by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ and not by the general public? That's stupid. But yes, I agree with Neph. /thread indeed.

Technically, it's decided by me, but I base it off of:

A: The amount of people vouching for said character
B: The arguments provided for said character

Ah well good, Wyyrlok takes this then.
SWL is the only supporter for Thanaton and is argument has already been debunked by various users.

Its not stupid. It is XSUPREMEXSKILLZ's tournament.

Outcome should be decided based solely on merit. Votes become useless in these kind of debates because many have the tendency to just vote for the more well-known character without giving proper consideration to credentials of a lesser known character.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Ah well good, Wyyrlok takes this then.
SWL is the only supporter for Thanaton and is argument has already been debunked by various users.

Your argument is solely off of what accolade...

it actually isn't solely off of one accolade. He's provided numerous feats on Thanaton's part to prove his victory.

Yes but...

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Gladly:
Lightsaber Abilities: Wyyrlok was able to hold his own against Krayt, Thanaton was slighlty superior then Exal Kressh.
Verdict: Wyyrlok

Force Sorcery: Wyyrlok is a master at illusions, as demonstrated against Krayt and Andeddu. Thanaton has no force sorcery feats.
Verdict:

Force Lightning: Wyyrlok's lightning was capable of killing Krayt, while Thanaton's was capable of being tanked by Nox.
Verdict: Wyyrlok

Telekinesis: Wyyrlok was capable of throwing large objects with the Force, I don't recall Thanaton doing anything better on this, but correct me if I'm wrong. So, so far:
Verdict: Wyyrlok

Conclusion: Wyyrlok takes this.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
it actually isn't solely off of one accolade. He's provided numerous feats on Thanaton's part to prove his victory.

Nox and Thanaton clashed 3 times. First 2 clashes ended in failure for Nox. In the final clash, it took Nox to wield and harness the combined might of 6 dark side apparitions to overcome Thanaton.

Thanaton have additional history of combat as well, he is noted for destroying Emperor's mighty apprentice and leading Sith forces to victory on many fronts. He is also known to raid enemy fortresses single-handedly and prevail.

I do wish more would provide Wyyrloks feats. Alas I do not possess the scans. I do think it is a rather close fight, but he seems to have superior showings.

Where is Q99 when you need him?

Oh, God. Just keep in mind that if Thanaton wins, we get more tiresome repetitions of the same inane arguments over and over again.

I was hoping that Tempest reading Legacy would lead to him participating in the threads for it, but he seems to have completely lost his balls these days.

I'd like to provide my own outlook on the topic:

You are a sith lord who has beaten darth zash, shattered stone with lightning, defeated a (force immune) Dashade as an acolyte, defeated a sith lord while you didn't have a connection to the force (Paladius), and have augmented your power with the spirit of two ancient sith lords (Andru and Ergast). Soon after these events, you get stomped by Darth Thanaton.

I feel like you guys are shortchanging Thanaton simply because he was stomped by a Darth Nox possessing the strength of 6 powerful spirits. I mean crap, that damn Last Resort attack he used on Nox was immense. It was a mix of a Force Lightning storm and dark side energy that created a maelstrom/lightning tornado. Of course when Nox draws on those spirits she walks out alive, then proceeds to annihilate him. Like tbh if thanaton were to bust that out, I doubt Wyyrlok could defend against it.

And in terms of lightsaber prowess, remember that Thanaton was a guy who specialized in using double bladed lightsabers as an acolyte, which is a difficult weapon to use. Plus considering he had a tablet of lightsaber info (Tulak Hord's, no doubt) and trained an, "unparalleled" lightsaber duelist, I don't see Wyyrlok stomping him in this department, at all.