Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You said their fight alone nearly destroyed it.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Supreme means "highest in degree or quality : greatest or highest possible" this means he is stronger then Vitiate and Nox, which is obviously not true. Therefore it is a hyperbole.
The hype/promotion of Sith Emperor is like this:-
- Tenebrae (Pre-ritual, mortal) = supremely powerful in the dark side
- Emperor (Post-ritual, immortal) = capacity as practitioner of the Force vastly increased
- Emperor (in summary) = most powerful Force-user the galaxy has ever seen
So, Emperor is stupendously powerful and way above majority.
However, Thanaton is the only other individual who is labeled as being supremely powerful besides Emperor in SWTOR(E), in the same tier as Emperor used to be prior to the ritual. Since Nox manages to augment his power considerably with combined might of several spirits, he outguns Thanaton and logically joins the TIER of supremely powerful individuals.
- Emperor (most powerful)
(GAP)
- Supremely powerful individuals (Nox; Thanaton)
- Mighty individuals
- Powerful individuals
- Talented/noteworthy individuals
- Average individuals
- Mooks
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
A joke compared to what you make her out to be. Saesee Tiin can replicate basically all her feats (besides the lightning ones obviously) in a similar fashion.http://r19.imgfast.net/users/1916/39/10/06/album/pr/tiin_s11_800x600.jpg
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They knew about Bane, Nihilus, and Andeddu.
Thanaton was keeper of ancient records which is enormous wealth of information.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Doesn't that apply to all feats of afterimages?
No. The difference is he is merely spinning it here. He is doing one repeated action. A random person on the street can easily make a say a stick blur by twirling it or repeatedly swinging it up and down like a drummer with a drumstick. It's when a character is preforming different attack and blocking that such things begin to become impressive.
If you are talking about technical skill, then yeah, speed does not necessarily mean you are skilled.
Show me the thread.
I am not interested in CW Mini related depictions. In this source, young Anakin have a feat which trumps anything Yoda have ever done.
How much Wyyrlok III knew about them?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I have, but:
-Nox was able to tank Thanaton's lightning.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
-Thanaton's lightsaber skills are not better then Wyyrlok.
Thanaton is a master swordsman nonetheless and of such a caliber that his own apprentice was rumored to have been the finest duelist in the Empire in his time. Thanaton also wore a special battle armor that further enhanced his effectiveness in combat situations.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
-Thanaton's ability in sorcery being better then Wyyrlok is pure speculation and worth nothing.
Thanaton fulfilled the prerequisites for position for sphere of ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE within the Dark Council:-
"Charged with the discovery, preservation, and deciphering of ancient Sith teachings, this sphere seeks to strengthen the Empire by tapping into the power buried in the past. After ascending to the Dark Council, Darth Thanaton oversees the ancient knowledge sphere and directs the Imperial Reclamation Service to excavate Sith artifacts for the good of the Empire."
In addition, read this carefully:-
"To combat Thanaton's insurmountable strength, the inquisitor learns the ritual of Force-walking and gains power by consuming the energy of Darth Andru, a seething Force spirit locked away on Dromund Kaas. Fueled by the ghost's power, the inquisitor confronts Thanaton - only to be nearly eradicated by the superior Sith's dark sorcery."
Did Wyyrlok III even acquired mastery of Force-walking talent? How many entities did he possess to augment his power? How can he even hang with Thanaton when he doesn't matches credentials of Nox?
With combined might of several entities, genius. Wyyrlok III doesn't packs this much strength.
Don't lie to me now, the Sith entities didn't come to several seconds after he began tanking.
uch a caliber that his own apprentice was rumored to have been the finest duelist in the Empire in his time.
"To combat Thanaton's insurmountable strength, the inquisitor learns the ritual of Force-walking and gains power by consuming the energy of Darth Andru, a seething Force spirit locked away on Dromund Kaas. Fueled by the ghost's power, the inquisitor confronts Thanaton - only to be nearly eradicated by the superior Sith's dark sorcery."
Originally posted by DarthAnt66Don't lie to me now, the Sith entities didn't come to several seconds after he began tanking.
Unfortunately for you though:
"Wielding the combined might of the Sith spirits, the inquisitor confronts Darth Thanton on Corellia, defeats his allies in battle, and forces Thanaton to flee for safety. It is in the Dark Council chambers on Korriban that the Sith Inquisitor corners Thanaton and utterly destroys the once supreme Sith while the Dark Council bears witness. At their behest, the inquisitor takes Thanaton's seat, becomes a Darth, and joins the most powerful Sith in the Empire to rule as a member of the Dark Council."
Another:
"The Sith Inquisitor harnesses the overwhelming power of consumed Force spirits in a confrontation with Darth Thanaton"
Sith entities simply momentarily revealed themselves to Darth Thanaton when his powers proved to be ineffective against Nox.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
So because Master Gormo trained Yoda to be the greatest duelist in the Jedi Order, Gormo is now as well? Great logic. 👆
Thanaton is specially noted as among the greatest champions of the Empire alongside Malgus.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Before I even counter this, can anyone always confirm to me this is a real quote? I googled it and only SWL on swtor.com came up.
That information is from page 185 of SWTOR(E).
Nice try, genius.
"Wielding the combined might of the Sith spirits, the inquisitor confronts Darth Thanton on Corellia, defeats his allies in battle, and forces Thanaton to flee for safety. It is in the Dark Council chambers on Korriban that the Sith Inquisitor corners Thanaton and utterly destroys the once supreme Sith while the Dark Council bears witness. At their behest, the inquisitor takes Thanaton's seat, becomes a Darth, and joins the most powerful Sith in the Empire to rule as a member of the Dark Council."
"The Sith Inquisitor harnesses the overwhelming power of consumed Force spirits in a confrontation with Darth Thanaton"
Oh look, they use that term "supreme" again. However I question why they put "once" in front of it...also notice how they say "utterly destroys."
I haven't dug much in to credentials of Master G
ormo yet.
Thanaton is specially noted as among the greatest champions of the Empire alongside Malgus.
"Charged with the discovery, preservation, and deciphering of ancient Sith teachings, this sphere seeks to strengthen the Empire by tapping into the power buried in the past. After ascending to the Dark Council, Darth Thanaton oversees the ancient knowledge sphere and directs the Imperial Reclamation Service to excavate Sith artifacts for the good of the Empire."
"To combat Thanaton's insurmountable strength, the inquisitor learns the ritual of Force-walking and gains power by consuming the energy of Darth Andru, a seething Force spirit locked away on Dromund Kaas. Fueled by the ghost's power, the inquisitor confronts Thanaton - only to be nearly eradicated by the superior Sith's dark sorcery."
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Just because he has the power doesn't mean he taps into it.
Official description is in-front of you, pay attention to the statements. Nox wielded the combined might of several entities during his final confrontation with Thanaton. No ifs and buts, period.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Oh look, they use that term "supreme" again. However I question why they put "once" in front of it...
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Ignoring my point because you know it's true.
However, Meetra is also said to the be the greatest champion of the Jedi alongside Revan. Guess she is a fantastic lightsaber dueler then.
Your mistake is that you are not focusing on the CONTEXT and arguing just of the sake of argument.
SWTOR(E) reveals that Thanaton is counted among the greatest champions of the Empire. On technical level, he is a swordsman of such a caliber that he can forge other master swordsmen for the Empire. His own apprentice is rumored to be an swordsman of unparalleled skill but didn't challenge Thanaton for supremacy, this should tell you something about Thanaton's combat prowess.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You act as if all this knowledge would be destroyed.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
This is referring to Corellia, not Dromaund Kaas.
Stop embarrassing yourself and concede.
You are the one who puts Thanaton on Vitiate's level because of one mere hyperbolic quote. Now your telling me that I'M embarrassing myself? Like myself, Neph, and numerous others stated numerous times, Thanaton got "utterly destroyed" by Nox. You can try to make it look like Thanaton was winning, that it was close, that Nox was amped, etc etc, but that's not changing the outcome. The rest of your debate been giving me accolades in trying to make Thanaton getting ragolled look less then itself, but like I said, it's not changing the fact he was ragdolled.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
How about you guys argue about thanaton's abilities and Wyyrlok's abilities and see how they stack up? 👆
Force Sorcery: Wyyrlok is a master at illusions, as demonstrated against Krayt and Andeddu. Thanaton has no force sorcery feats.
Verdict:
Force Lightning: Wyyrlok's lightning was capable of killing Krayt, while Thanaton's was capable of being tanked by Nox.
Verdict: Wyyrlok
Telekinesis: Wyyrlok was capable of throwing large objects with the Force, I don't recall Thanaton doing anything better on this, but correct me if I'm wrong. So, so far:
Verdict: Wyyrlok
Conclusion: Wyyrlok takes this.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Concede that Thanatons is on Vitiate's level?You are the one who puts Thanaton on Vitiate's level because of one mere hyperbolic quote. Now your telling me that I'M embarrassing myself? Like myself, Neph, and numerous others stated numerous times, Thanaton got "utterly destroyed" by Nox. You can try to make it look like Thanaton was winning, that it was close, that Nox was amped, etc etc, but that's not changing the outcome. The rest of your debate been giving me accolades in trying to make Thanaton getting ragolled look less then itself, but like I said, it's not changing the fact he was ragdolled.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No.The hype/promotion of Sith Emperor is like this:-
- Tenebrae (Pre-ritual, mortal) = supremely powerful in the dark side
- Emperor (Post-ritual, immortal) = capacity as practitioner of the Force vastly increased
- Emperor (in summary) = most powerful Force-user the galaxy has ever seenSo, Emperor is stupendously powerful and way above majority.
However, Thanaton is the only other individual who is labeled as being supremely powerful besides Emperor in SWTOR(E), in the same tier as Emperor used to be prior to the ritual. Since Nox manages to augment his power considerably with combined might of several spirits, he outguns Thanaton and logically joins the TIER of supremely powerful individuals.
- Emperor (most powerful)
(GAP)
- Supremely powerful individuals (Nox; Thanaton)
- Mighty individuals
- Powerful individuals
- Talented/noteworthy individuals
- Average individuals
- Mooks
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That response was a joke, so I didn't need to even reply to it, for it spoke for itself.You judge your characters by pure accolades without considering feats. Wyylok has better feats. Therefore, he wins.
You usually don't purely go by feats either, accolades are taken into consideration.
