The Battlezone! Round 1 Match 4: The 2nd Emperor's Wrath vs. Count Dooku

Started by carthage7 pages

You're right about Ventress, Mace said outright that he could kill her at any time before she ran away.

Thanks. 👆

Right in the first panel in fact, dunno if you've seen the actual images

carthage, the one time you try to provide scans, you are wrong 😂 :

And yet Windu casually kicked her ass in his scan. Windu specifically mocks the idea of them being equals.

Not my fault CW writers are semi-retarded and can't bridge inconsistencies in their writing.

She even acknowledged she was no match for him.

AotC Anakin: no expression Are you ****ing kidding me?

I don't recall Hero running faster then several missiles or moving huge ass ships. 😮‍💨
Obi-Wan: No, he isn't.

He is stated to be among the best, and I'm sure you know of such quote, however I couldn't find it, so I will share these:

- and this image, this plan, was so clear in Dooku's mind that he almost failed to notice that Kenobi met every one of his thrusts without so much as moving his feet, staying perfectly centered, perfectly balanced, blade never moving a millimeter more than necessary, deflecting without effort, riposting with flickering strikes and stabs swifter than the tongue of a Garollian ghost viper, and when Dooku felt Skywalker regain his feet and stride once more toward his back, he finally registered the source of that blinding defensive velocity Kenobi had used a moment ago, and only then, belatedly, did he understand that Kenobi's Ataro and Shii-Cho had been ploys, as well.
Kenobi had become a master of Soresu.

"That is so like you, Master Kenobi. I am called a great swordsman because I invented a lethal style; but who is greater, the creator of a killing form—or the master of the classic form?"

"Kenobi was luminous, a transparent being, a window onto a sunlit meadow of the Force."

Sora Bulq: Not as impressive as being one of the greatest Sith Assassins in history.

TPM Darth Maul shares that same accolade then.
And yet Windu casually kicked her ass in his scan. Windu specifically mocks the idea of them being equals.

Come on Neph, if you weren't so hot I would be yelling at you right now. He didn't provide the entire fight:

So she runs from a fight Mace jumps off the cliff to go after he, and she runs away again.

Yeah Ant, Mace was totally pushed to the limit! 👆

To be fair though the fact Ventress didn't die outright proves her skill though.

In the first panel, he is seen almost killed.
In the last panel, Ventress mocks Mace's power and easily holds his entire strength off with A arm. Just ONE arm.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I don't recall Hero running faster then several missiles or moving huge ass ships. 😮‍💨

More ridiculous Tartavosky feats. 🙄

The Hero has blitzed multiple Sith Warriors at once and beaten Emperor Vitiate. Anakin is no comparison at all. Hell, even Scourge has outran automated swoop-bike canon's and the Hero whooped the 300 year superior version of Scourge. The Hero would stomp Ani's ass. Make a thread if you don't believe me, see how many people buy your crap.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He is stated to be among the best, and I'm sure you know of such quote, however I couldn't find it, so I will share these:

- and this image, this plan, was so clear in Dooku's mind that he almost failed to notice that Kenobi met every one of his thrusts without so much as moving his feet, staying perfectly centered, perfectly balanced, blade never moving a millimeter more than necessary, deflecting without effort, riposting with flickering strikes and stabs swifter than the tongue of a Garollian ghost viper, and when Dooku felt Skywalker regain his feet and stride once more toward his back, he finally registered the source of that blinding defensive velocity Kenobi had used a moment ago, and only then, belatedly, did he understand that Kenobi's Ataro and Shii-Cho had been ploys, as well.
Kenobi had become a master of Soresu.

"That is so like you, Master Kenobi. I am called a great swordsman because I invented a lethal style; but who is greater, the creator of a killing form—or the master of the classic form?"

"Kenobi was luminous, a transparent being, a window onto a sunlit meadow of the Force."

Kenobi is a skilled Soresu duelist, but the best in history? Nothing says that.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
TPM Darth Maul shares that same accolade then.

I believe he was called one of the deadliest apprentices in history. I cannot recall what you're saying.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Come on Neph, if you weren't so hot I would be yelling at you right now. He didn't provide the entire fight:

How does that change anything? They have a short fight, a few blows at best, where it becomes abundantly clear that Ventress is no match for him, as both combatants agree.

She did a downward swipe and he did a backflip to avoid it.

And in the second panel she's clearly running away, and deflecting him as he's falling. She was already running.

More ridiculous Tartavosky feats. roll eyes (sarcastic)

C-Canon. 👆

The Hero has blitzed multiple Sith Warriors at once and beaten Emperor Vitiate. Anakin is no comparison at all. Hell, even Scourge has outran automated swoop-bike canon's and the Hero whooped the 300 year superior version of Scourge. The Hero would stomp Ani's ass. Make a thread if you don't believe me, see how many people buy your crap.

You do know I was trolling/joking with you...right? Calm yourself, dirty boy.
Kenobi is a skilled Soresu duelist, but the best in history? Nothing says that.

He's confirmed one of the best, so name someone whos better.
I believe he was called one of the deadliest apprentices in history. I cannot recall what you're saying.

My bad, Darth Maul who was "One of the most skilled and deadly warriors in Sith history, Darth Sidious' apprentice took part in the first encounter between Jedi Knight and Sith warrior for more than 1,000 years in the Battle for Naboo. As a Sith devotee, Darth Maul drew his power from the dark side of the Force. He was one of the most highly trained Sith in the history of the order." Ventress was the one who I am referring too:
http://www.dk.co.uk/static/spreads/all/4/9/9781409374794L_003.jpg
ow does that change anything? They have a short fight, a few blows at best, where it becomes abundantly clear that Ventress is no match for him, as both combatants agree.

Your depiction of a fight is outruled by a canonical source.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
C-Canon. 👆

C-Canon that its exaggerated too.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You do know I was trolling/joking with you...right? Calm yourself, dirty boy.

I know.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He's confirmed one of the best, so name someone whos better.

Yoda.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
My bad, Darth Maul who was "One of the most skilled and deadly warriors in Sith history, Darth Sidious' apprentice took part in the first encounter between Jedi Knight and Sith warrior for more than 1,000 years in the Battle for Naboo. As a Sith devotee, Darth Maul drew his power from the dark side of the Force. He was one of the most highly trained Sith in the history of the order."

Source?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Ventress was the one who I am referring too:
http://www.dk.co.uk/static/spreads/all/4/9/9781409374794L_003.jpg

Ventress isn't even a Sith.

Anyway thats only referring to the CW.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Your depiction of a fight is outruled by a canonical source.

Which canonical source?

You're interpretation of what the source is saying is overruled by the people in the comic saying shes no match for him.

He's confirmed one of the best, so name someone whos better.

Anyone that can withstand basic force pushes and chokes, is probably better than Kenobi.

I know.

Then why do you have to yell at me? 🙁 I'm correctly writing the legal papers for our marriage. Expect some documents you have to sign later before our ceremony.

Yoda.

Well played...
Source?

Star Wars Fact File 01
Which canonical source?

Star Wars Fact File 108
You're interpretation of what the source is saying is overruled by the people in the comic saying shes no match for him

It states Mace had to go all out on her.

And he states that he is superior and can kill her at any time, and she even agrees and runs.

Why are you disputing that? Do you have a thing for Ventress like you have a thing for Thanaton and Revan, weirdo.

Ant is desperate

Do you not realize, Ventress is one of my least favorite characters, and Mace is one of my favorites? I am not desperate. Mace's opinion is outruled by the factfile. Simple.

Nothing in their fight suggests that, though. But nice try!

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Factfile>Your thoughts on the fight.
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What actually happened in the fight > stupid inconsistent secondary sources.