The Battlezone! Round 1 Match 4: The 2nd Emperor's Wrath vs. Count Dooku

Started by Nephthys7 pages

The original source should be believed foremost. The Factfile is just an mistaken interpretation.

Nope. 👇 Because your thoughts on the fight are mere speculation, while the factfiles tell you what really did happen in the fight.

Except that at no point is Windu struggling in that match, she even ran from him twice. As in she was trying to avoid him by using her legs to get away from him.

Use common sense bro, I know that's hard for you.

Mace is seen struggling in that fight in two different panels. Just because he says he can kill Ventress at any time, does't mean it's true! Hell, Ventress even mocks his power.

I don't see how backflipping over someones strikes = is having trouble with her. Thats like the opposite of that. Maybe he was just 'using all his skills' to show off.

Also, Ventress could have been sincere about his power.

Shes grinning, and holding him off with one arm, and look at Mace's face while doing such. He's like enraged.

She says that she wanted to fight him because he's a challenge. Shes grinning because he is powerful.

And also grinning because she can hold her own against him...with one arm.
However, we are getting way off topic now.

True.

LOL@ writing off Ventress because Mace says she is no match for him when canon sources outright states the opposite.

Ventress agrees with him though and runs away. 😬

Plus this is entirely consistent with her others showings and general level of ability.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
LOL@ writing off Ventress because Mace says she is no match for him when canon sources outright states the opposite.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Ventress agrees with him though and runs away. 😬

Plus this is entirely consistent with her others showings and general level of ability.


No, giving Mace a good fight is exactly what is consistent. She troubles Anakin several times through TCW, who is more or less Mace's equal with a blade, and in the CWC, she was even with Anakin, who challenged Dooku. She's also generally even with Kenobi, who has sparred evenly with Anakin and is only marginally below Mace as a swordsman, so no, she is perfectly capable of accomplishing the feat.

She also gets rather easily defeated or handled by Dooku, who Mace is closer to than Anakin is close to him. Ventress also hasn't ever really been equal to CW Anakin imo. And she barely defeated Grievous.

Originally posted by Nephthys
She also gets rather easily defeated or handled by Dooku, who Mace is closer to than Anakin is close to him. Ventress also hasn't ever really been equal to CW Anakin imo. And she barely defeated Grievous.

Dooku only casually beat her in lightsaber dueling in the CWC. In TCW, he only easily beats her through Force usage, not through lightsaber dueling.

Not really:

YouTube video

He kicks her across the room, evades her without a lightsaber, pushes her away with one hand then when they lock blades he pushes her to her knees. All while fending off Savage at the same time. When they're alone he's constantly forcing her back.

She managed to fend him off alone with a lightsaber before he overwhelmed her through telekinesis.

But the fact is that her consistent showings are challenging Mace, challenging Anakin, challenging Obi-Wan, and fighting even with Anakin in the CWC who challenged Dooku. Mace, or Dooku or Anakin for that matter, have no showings to support a stomp of her in lightsaber dueling.

She was near constantly retreating.

I didn't suggest she'd get stomped against those guys. All I've said is that shes not equal to them, as Ant said she was Maces equal. Mace didn't stomp her, but she agreed she was no match for him and retreated after barely a few blows were exchanged.

as Ant said she was Maces equal.

I never said that. Dueling evenly=/=equals

But she didn't duel evenly with him, hence why she ran away.