Aryn Leneer vs Darth Maul

Started by Syndicate6 pages

Again like in the other thread I think we should cease arguing the point. One side believes Maul will take it and the other side believes Aryn will. We aren't going to agree so we might as well move on.

The point of this forum is to persuade the other side and debate, there is no reason to move on.

Maul takes this with mid difficulty. In close quarters combat, he knows tons of Martial arts techniques that would beat her down fast- and physically he is as strong as Malgus so that's two advantages she lacks.

His force abilities are also more varied

She countered Malgus' strength with her superior speed. She doesn't have a speed advantage over Maul.

I'd say she does.

no

Oh wow, convincing.

you're not any better

Why would you say she's faster Neph?

If anything their speed is pretty even imo.

hat's what we're saying but Neph keeps saying he isn't while providing no evidence.

I'm playing TOR.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Why would you say she's faster Neph?

I haven't seen any speed feats from Maul that equal hers. I offered my opinion on several of them and haven't seen the best one mentioned, being imperceptible by a combat droid, posted so I can't judge it. Ant claimed that Leneer can't maintain her speed for long, but that's patently false seeing as she keeps it up for the entire hyperspace trip. In all, Leneer seems to be in a very similar situation as she was vs Malgus, having an edge in speed, but missing the edge in strength.

that edge in strength really doesn't do much though since she was able to deal with Malguss strength.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I haven't seen any speed feats from Maul that equal hers. I offered my opinion on several of them and haven't seen the best one mentioned, being imperceptible by a combat droid, posted so I can't judge it. Ant claimed that Leneer can't maintain her speed for long, but that's patently false seeing as she keeps it up for the entire hyperspace trip. In all, Leneer seems to be in a very similar situation as she was vs Malgus, having an edge in speed, but missing the edge in strength.

What do you mean you haven't seen ay speed feats that equal hers? Their speed feats are practically exactly the same!

-Aryn appears to be in multiple places at once. Maul does the same in his battle with Vader.

-Aryn forms a cocoon of light from her lightsaber blade. Maul weaves a webbing tapestry of light with his lightsaber blade in his battle with Bondara.

-Aryn dashes too fast for security cameras to detect. Maul does the same thing +3,000 years of tech advancement.

-Aryn fights so quickly that time seems to slow around her. Maul also fights so quickly that time seems to slow and stretch around him.

Seriously. They've got the *same* speed feats.

Or Maul could be considered to have better. I guess that's just opinion.

-Aryn dashes too fast for security cameras to detect. Maul does the same thing +3,000 years of tech advancement.

Frames per second is unlikely to have changed- the eye can still only see at the same speed, after all.

Originally posted by carthage
Maul takes this with mid difficulty. In close quarters combat, he knows tons of Martial arts techniques that would beat her down fast- and physically he is as strong as Malgus so that's two advantages she lacks.

Maul will defeat superior opponent with mid difficulty? Have you even checked previous pages of this thread?

By the way, Leener is an excellent martial artist as well. And she can keep up with physically stronger foes.

Originally posted by carthage
His force abilities are also more varied

No, check this thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=703483

Originally posted by NewGuy01
-Aryn appears to be in multiple places at once. Maul does the same in his battle with Vader.

Evidence?

Actually, Leener moved so fast that time seemed to have halted for her. In contrast, time seemed to have slowed down for Maul. Their is difference.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
-Aryn forms a cocoon of light from her lightsaber blade. Maul weaves a webbing tapestry of light with his lightsaber blade in his battle with Bondara.

Maul wields a double-bladed lightsaber which has twice the coverage of a normal lightsaber; Leener have to exert twice as much to formulate a cocoon of light with a normal lightsaber then Maul have to with his weapon. Do the math.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
-Aryn dashes too fast for security cameras to detect. Maul does the same thing +3,000 years of tech advancement.

I don't recall Leener evading security cameras. It is however stated that she could react and respond faster then any machine (not just security cameras).

Also, this whole 3000+ year advancement mantra is being blown out of proportion. Can you provide exact proof of improvement in camera technology during this span? We are talking about Star Wars and it isn't based on real-world logics.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
-Aryn fights so quickly that time seems to slow around her. Maul also fights so quickly that time seems to slow and stretch around him.

See above.

Actually, recheck revelations from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Deceived here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=594447&pagenumber=5

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Seriously. They've got the *same* speed feats.

No, they don't.

Leener have clear advantage in this respect.

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Keep in mind that Malgus was fast enough to keep up with Zallow, the latter in turn was fast enough to literally blitz two experienced Sith warriors simultaneously. And in the end, Leener was faster then even Malgus.

Maul isn't as fast as Leener.