Spider-Man rogues vs. X-Men rogues

Team Spidey from both Spider-Man franchises:

-The Lizard
-The Rhino
-Electro
-Green Goblin (Dafoe)
-Doc Ock
-Sandman
-Venom

Team X-Men from all films:

-Sabertooth
-Toad
-Lady Deathstrike
-Juggernaut
-Pyro
-Emma Frost
-Azazel

Fight takes place on London Bridge, England at high noon. The fight cannot leave the bridge. No BFR.

Anything goes, to the death.

stalemate?

Sandman, Electro and Venom decimate the other side, but they can't put down Juggy, and they can't be put down themselves.

though i guess Emma could just tell the other team to go to sleep.

Actually, according to X3, Juggernaut can be put down by electricity...but it needed Wolverine to be a conductor, but then again Electro seems to be able to put out more energy than Storm when she's not directly summoning lightning from the sky.

However I think there'd be enough time for Juggy and the others to take down a few before they try to deal with Electro and Sandman.

Couldn't pyro turn sandman into glass?

i don't think he's capable of that. the melting point of sand is approx. 4k, that's significantly hotter than magma. We saw nothing suggesting Pyro could make his flames that hot.

Now, if this was Johnny from FF, you'd have a point.

I don't think any of the X-rogues have what it takes to put down Sandman. That being stated, I don't know if any of the Spidey-rogues can put down Juggernaut, unless maybe Sandman invades all of his orifices and suffocates him, though YMMV. Emma can maybe mind control Goblin or Doc Ock, but they will be immediately slaughtered by their teammates.

Emma tells sandman to go swimming

/thread

Can she do that to Sandman? He's not really a human.

still has a brain, no?

Let me rephrase that, he's not exactly a biological lifeform. And considering he's a sentient shapeshfiting pit of sand, I'm going to guess no on the brain.

Reading his mind would be like reading the mind of a rock.

And rocks have no tp defence. So it works, besides maybe his brain is sand to cause you need a brain to move and think.

He clearly doesn't have what you would define as a brain. Even if he did, he's not a biological lifeform, and mutants haven't even been shown reading the minds of animals, less lone a being not even made of proteins.

So Emma mind rapes everyone but Sandman? Than maybe Azazel teleports hit into a river for the win?

X Men win

Originally posted by juggerman
So Emma mind rapes everyone but Sandman? Than maybe Azazel teleports hit into a river for the win?

How is Azazel going to do that? Teleport him grain by grain?

He takes regular form most of the time, considering they are fighting on a bride and his weakness is water..Sandman ends up in the river. Emma would make him think it, he would do it, or he would end up entangled with someone else, and over he goes.

Who is going to push a 50 ft sentient pillar of sand anywhere? And why would he not be in sand form here? And, as stated, no proof that Emma can control his mind.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Who is going to push a 50 ft sentient pillar of sand anywhere? And why would he not be in sand form here? And, as stated, no proof that Emma can control his mind.

First you didn't establish proof that she cannot. Emma can control anyones mind, to suggest that he can phase into a sand and re take human form and that he does not have a brain is ridiculous.

Pyro would turn that sandman into glass.

Um, yeah, I did. If she can't read animals minds, she's not reading the mind of a non-biological lifeform.

And to assume that when he goes into human guise, he suddenly reconstructs all of his proteins is what is ridiculous here.

As already stated, the heat required to make glass was never displayed by Pyro.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Um, yeah, I did. If she can't read animals minds, she's not reading the mind of a non-biological lifeform.

And to assume that when he goes into human guise, he suddenly reconstructs all of his proteins is what is ridiculous here.

As already stated, the heat required to make glass was never displayed by Pyro.

You right, he has no brain, he walks around brainless.