Spider-Man rogues vs. X-Men rogues

Started by Time Immemorial7 pages

Originally posted by Lestov16
Pretty sure Sandman has enough mass that he doesn't need to fit his entire 50 ft body into a 6 foot guy. And even if his sand grains became inert upon entering juggernaut, he can still fill up juggernaut with enough sand until he suffocates. He'll just pull a Joffrey Baratheon and "give Juggernaut his fill"

You still lack screen feats that juggernaut can be suffocated from this weak guy.
The battle gets so heated the London bridge falls like the song. Sandman dies.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Pretty sure Sandman has enough mass that he doesn't need to fit his entire 50 ft body into a 6 foot guy.
He only grew that big because there was a lot of sand around him in the final fight, he never shown to get that big unless there is a lot of sand nearby so no, he wont have his 50 ft body.

He ran off after re reading Op and realized this was on bridge over his biggest weak spot as he has to retract his whole he's 50 feet tall argument.

No he isn't the guy who would run away, he is simply busy.

God your stupidity actually hurts

A) there is no Cytorrak in the XCU Juggs was a mutant nothing else

B) darling this isn't the MU this is the XCU and whilst I'm sure that Emma, Jean or Chuck could have done it in comics there is nothing to suggest that they can do it in movies (iirc in First Class Eric & Chuck captured Emma and had to get her to de-diamonise before Chuck could read her mind

C) proof that he doesn't have an organic brain?

When he recombines himself you can see chunks missing out of his head where there is just sand

He is capable of thinking and moving as a giant flying sand cloud

When Pete fights him in the subway (?) Pete puts Sandman's head up against a moving train removing half his head. all of it is just sand

Yes he does have a consciousness but no physical mind to read

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
What?

I still wanna know what you were talking about here

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Well it isn't exactly in but after their first encounter sand had managed to get in Spideys mouth under his costume

He has never been a mutant, even in the comics which the movie is based off, you actually pretty stupid, go read a book or comic. You good a mimicking Lest but your missing a organic brain.

Like i said before anyone who runs from the cops has a brain.

He's calling people stupid yet he was arguing spiderman had FTL reactions.

Technically, Juggs wasn't shown to have Cyttorak in X3; he was, in fact, a mutant and not Xavier's stepbrother.

X3 sucked for many other reasons, too.

Originally posted by Impediment
Technically, Juggs wasn't shown to have Cyttorak in X3; he was, in fact, a mutant and not Xavier's stepbrother.

X3 sucked for many other reasons, too.

His powers and origin were stated as a unknown origin correct? In the comics no one knew where his powers came from until he revealed them? Being the movie was based off the comics I'm inclined to think they came from Cyttorak as its based off the comic books.

juggernaut wiki

Ctrl/f "Vinnie"

GCS would you kindly shut the f*ck up please? Thank you

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
His powers and origin were stated as a unknown origin correct? In the comics no one knew where his powers came from until he revealed them? Being the movie was based off the comics I'm inclined to think they came from Cyttorak as its based off the comic books.

So you're basing your opinion on something that isn't canon to the X-men movie?

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
juggernaut wiki

Ctrl/f "Vinnie"

GCS would you kindly shut the f*ck up please? Thank you

Thanks you just confirmed my post his powers come from Cryttorak. Would it kindly shut up now?

You lost, best be stepping.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
His powers and origin were stated as a unknown origin correct? In the comics no one knew where his powers came from until he revealed them? Being the movie was based off the comics I'm inclined to think they came from Cyttorak as its based off the comic books.

Totally understandable, but X3 was a dramatic re-imagining of the world of X-Men, remember? A lot of things were changed. Most for the worst.

I mean, if Juggs had Cyttorak he would never have been held in iron straps and a cage because he'd be too strong. The manifest report read as "do not allow subject to gain momentum as he will be unstoppable." Juggs was on a prison truck for mutants along with Mystique and Jamie Madrox.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Thanks you just confirmed my post his powers come from Cryttorak. Would it kindly shut up now?

You lost, beat be stepping.

You might want to read the link before claiming that it backs up your stance.

◾In X-Men: The Last Stand, Juggernaut (played by Vinnie Jones) serves as one of Magneto's Brotherhood Alliance army. In this version, he is a mutant with no explicit connection to Charles Xavier, his mutation granting him the inability to be halted once he starts running, and superhuman strength sufficient to fight Wolverine to a standstill. During the battle on Alcatraz Island, Magneto orders him to destroy the cure, but is foiled by Kitty Pryde and knocks himself out when he attempts to run through a wall while in the presence of the power-negating Leech. Vinnie Jones has said he would like to reprise Juggernaut in a spin-off, as he felt there was too little time in X-Men: The Last Stand to imbue the character with depth
Originally posted by Silent Master
So you're basing your opinion on something that isn't canon to the X-men movie?

Like people basing their cannon arguments that sandman has no brain? Or that he can be 50ft yall without help from the environment, or that he can't be controlled by Telepathy.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Thanks you just confirmed my post his powers come from Cryttorak. Would it kindly shut up now?

You lost, best be stepping.

Also, everyone needs to down shift gears, please. It's okay to do a little trash talking, but this is starting to get kinda ugly.

Originally posted by Impediment
Totally understandable, but X3 was a dramatic re-imagining of the world of X-Men, remember? A lot of things were changed. Most for the worst.

I mean, if Juggs had Cyttorak he would never have been held in iron straps and a cage because he'd be too strong. The manifest report read as "do not allow subject to gain momentum as he will be unstoppable." Juggs was on a prison truck for mutants along with Mystique and Jamie Madrox.

Another scenario similar is silver surfer and galactus. It was never stated that he got his powers from galactus or that in fact he had power cosmic, are we going to say otherwise because it was no said so in the movie? No because we know it to be so🙂

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Like people basing their cannon arguments that sandman has no brain? Or that he can be 50ft yall without help from the environment, or that he can't be controlled by Telepathy.

I'm not part of that conversation as I didn't see the movie in question, I have however seen the X-men movies and knew that you were wrong about the Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm not part of that conversation as I didn't see the movie in question, I have however seen the X-men movies and knew that you were wrong about the Juggernaut.

Your might want to read above as it invalidates your arugement.

Can you not read?