Originally posted by abhilegend
I admitted he was knocked out when Nam-Ek suckered him. When he actually fought both of them, he was totally fine. So, no I wasn't wrong.And why wouldn't it? After all a worl engine buster would be too much for even Shaw. or Shaw can overpower gravity beam of world engine now?
Honest question, what is the upper limit of Shaw's absorption powers? Can comic Superman beat him?
No, you said he fought two kryptonians and was fine, you clearly allowed your hard on for superman to forget that no he wasn't fine he did get knocked out. Don't blame a "sucker punch" for superman not being fine and getting knocked out. Nam-Ek took a knocked out Faora away from the battle, superman didn't mean them or anything, he held his own sure but he didn't knock them out or anything.
And you keep using BFR to try and win, why? Zod and superman changed the battleground but in your post your talking about superman taking Shaw into Orbit which is BFR 😉
Originally posted by Robtard
Then why the tears.Great. And when his powers aren't affected, they made him extremely durable via absorbing any force that would harm him. You're arguing points for the sake of arguing. Stop?
Fastest fight-speed we saw from the Kryptonians was Faora, assuming MoS can replicate that (which he can), that's not faster than Shaw can think about using his powers.
What speed did yuo have in mind using the film as a source and not "MoS will just be too fast" type of arguments?
No, before it was, sorry you knee-jerked and cried.
Answered you above before.
So I heard. Well that's not going to help him when he gets snapped in half at superspeed before he could think.
WTF? Superman flew from other side of the world after destroying world engine in a very short amount of time. Faora couldn't even fly FFS. Go watch the movie before making a fool of yourself again.
When Superman returns from destroying the world engine from the other side of the world and Zod was about to destroy the jets from his ship.
I laughed. Just like I'm doing right now. Flight speed from Faora.
😂
Originally posted by abhilegend
Tears? I'm laughing at this no limit fallacy.So I heard. Well that's not going to help him when he gets snapped in half at superspeed before he could think.
WTF? Superman flew from other side of the world after destroying world engine in a very short amount of time. Faora couldn't even fly FFS. Go watch the movie before making a fool of yourself again.
When Superman returns from destroying the world engine from the other side of the world and Zod was about to destroy the jets from his ship.
I laughed. Just like I'm doing right now. Flight speed from Faora.
😂
Oh my.
IIRC, he fly into space first to accomplish that feat. When we see him zipping around the Earth, he's not at the same speed. When he flies into Zod while in the atmosphere as well, not the same speed.
You're also forgetting that this is a duel and Shaw would have his powers active. So your 'no powers for Shaw' angle is nonsense tactics.
I said "fight-speed", as her's is the best example. So you're trolling 👆
Originally posted by steverules_2
No, you said he fought two kryptonians and was fine, you clearly allowed your hard on for superman to forget that no he wasn't fine he did get knocked out. Don't blame a "sucker punch" for superman not being fine and getting knocked out. Nam-Ek took a knocked out Faora away from the battle, superman didn't mean them or anything, he held his own sure but he didn't knock them out or anything.And you keep using BFR to try and win, why? Zod and superman changed the battleground but in your post your talking about superman taking Shaw into Orbit which is BFR 😉
After the fight Superman was totally fine, not even a scratch. So yeah, I was right. And I'm not blaming anything, sucker attacking isn't a fight.
And who said Superman won that battle?
Superman and Zod went into orbit while fighting, superman can do the same here to Shaw.
I don't see Shaw ripping Superman in half. Durability is too damn high. Even if Shaw managed to get strong enough to do it; I doubt it would happen before Kal wises up about Shaw only getting stronger from all Kal throws at him. The moment he does its GG IMHO. Of course this whole scenario relies on Shaw's power having no limit.
Originally posted by Robtard
Oh my.IIRC, he fly into space first to accomplish that feat. When we see him zipping around the Earth, he's not at the same speed. When he flies into Zod while in the atmosphere as well, not the same speed.
You're also forgetting that this is a duel and Shaw would have his powers active. So your no powers for Shaw angle is nonsense tactics.
I said "fight-speed", as her's is the best example. So you're trolling 👆
And he wasn't shown flying into space when he returned to metropolis after destroying world engine.
Not if Superman attacks him before he could think to activate his powers. Show me where its said that he would go into the fight with his powers being active.
Originally posted by steverules_2
Superman was on earth...how long before he learned to fly? Faora was there for a lot less time. Zod learned to fly in a lot less time, Faora COULD fly but she never learned how, all kryptonians would have the same powers.
This is why I said its getting idiotic.
I'm not saying she anything about her flight speed...I'm saying that she had the ability to fly and could, she just didn't know how...if she'd been there long enough she would've probably been able to.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And he was. Suckering someone is not a fight. You should know that.After the fight Superman was totally fine, not even a scratch. So yeah, I was right. And I'm not blaming anything, sucker attacking isn't a fight.
And who said Superman won that battle?
Superman and Zod went into orbit while fighting, superman can do the same here to Shaw.
The sucker punch didn't knock him out, Faora knocked him out and she didn't sucker punch anyone.
He was fine after the fight but he was still knocked during it. He got KOed. The other Kryptonians didn't have a scratch on them either, so clearly he didn't do a very good job of fighting them. No one said superman won the battle, but I'm saying that he didn't win it.
Reread what you said, you said SUPERMAN could do the same to Shaw. Zod and superman were taking each other into Orbit, Shaw isn't taking Superman into orbit but superman is taking Shaw. Your argument here is wrong.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You're just demonstrating you didn't see the movie. Superman wasn't shown to be flying into space when he returned to metropolis. Go back and see the movie.Not if Superman attacks him before he could think to activate his powers. Show me where its said that he would go into the fight with his powers being active.
What? No hyperbole now?
And who was talking about that? Tard said she already has the fastest flying speed in the movie. How did she has flight speed if she couldn't even fly?
But when he left 👆
This is a duel 👆
Keep trolling, claiming I said something I didn't is all you have 👆
Originally posted by Robtard
Forgetting that. Where/when did Shaw take damage?If this is the case, then he could be ****ed here.
He got a bloody mouth during the atrium scene, towards the end (before they made it to the ocean with the battle ships and subs).
He adapted, though, so he just took a bit of damage and then was good to go.
I just don't think his body can adapt faster than Superman punches.
Do you have the film? Go back towards the end and watch the stuff up through the mansion.
I have only seen the movie once so I may have jumbled up events.
Originally posted by steverules_2
I'm not saying she anything about her flight speed...I'm saying that she had the ability to fly and could, she just didn't know how...if she'd been there long enough she would've probably been able to.The sucker punch didn't knock him out, Faora knocked him out and she didn't sucker punch anyone.
He was fine after the fight but he was still knocked during it. He got KOed. The other Kryptonians didn't have a scratch on them either, so clearly he didn't do a very good job of fighting them. No one said superman won the battle, but I'm saying that he didn't win it.
Reread what you said, you said SUPERMAN could do the same to Shaw. Zod and superman were taking each other into Orbit, Shaw isn't taking Superman into orbit but superman is taking Shaw. Your argument here is wrong.
He was fine at the end. That's what matters.
And they are both leaving the battlefield together, so its not a BFR.
Originally posted by Robtard
But when he left 👆This is a duel 👆
Keep trolling, claiming I said somethign I didn't is all you have 👆
Matters little.
I edited. Sorry for hurting your feelings.
Originally posted by dadudemon
He got a bloody mouth during the atrium scene, towards the end (before they made it to the ocean with the battle ships and subs).He adapted, though, so he just took a bit of damage and then was good to go.
I just don't think his body can adapt faster than Superman punches.
Do you have the film? Go back towards the end and watch the stuff up through the mansion.
I have only seen the movie once so I may have jumbled up events.
Honestly don't recall that and Meep-Meep watched the film last night; didn't mention it.
If that is indeed the case, then yeah, MoS could obliterate Shaw.
Doesn't make sense though, considering the grenade scene, the bullets and RPG scene and Havok's attack.
Originally posted by dadudemon
He got a bloody mouth during the atrium scene, towards the end (before they made it to the ocean with the battle ships and subs).He adapted, though, so he just took a bit of damage and then was good to go.
I just don't think his body can adapt faster than Superman punches.
Do you have the film? Go back towards the end and watch the stuff up through the mansion.
I have only seen the movie once so I may have jumbled up events.
Originally posted by Robtard
Honestly don't recall that and Meep-Meep watched the film last night; didn't mention it.If that is indeed the case, then yeah, MoS could obliterate Shaw.
Doesn't make sense though, considering the grenade scene, the bullets and RPG scene and Havok's attack.
Is it on Netflix? If so, I could just watch it.
I should watch it again, anyway, because the next X-men comes out, soon. 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
Is it on Netflix? If so, I could just watch it.I should watch it again, anyway, because the next X-men comes out, soon. 🙂
Was it Shaw dabbing his lip with a handkerchief? Somewhat remember that, don't recall why/how he was hurt.
Meep-Meep, the **** are you.
I should watch it too before I see the next film, I like having fresh memories when going to see sequels.
edit: Google says First Class is on Netflix.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That was followed by a sucker attack. In fact when they properly fought, they couldn't down him after a prolonged fight.He was fine at the end. That's what matters.
And they are both leaving the battlefield together, so its not a BFR.
When he left where?
Well he didn't down them either so it's much of a feat is it. He got KOed no matter how you wanna phrase it.
FFS no BFR in the OP was stated as such so that superman wouldn't take Shaw into space, Shaw isn't going into space by choice...Zod did, what part of BFR do you not understand?