Death seed Sentry Vs Silver Surfer

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus9 pages

Originally posted by One-Punch
Umm, because it's the truth?

It's really simple. Thor couldn't defeat Durok, and was essentially "killed" in the process.

Surfer revived Thor from death, and then went on to defeat Durok.

Therefore Surfer defeated someone that killed Thor.

Yes, Surfer did much better than Thor did against Millenius considering the context of what happened.

No, it's not. Not even remotely so.

Seriously? Surfer beat Durok with a huge asterisk. He used time travel. Based on their encounter, Durok would have crushed Surfer in a direct fight:

His blast literally bounced off, he was effortlessly being manhandled and was like knocked out with a single attack at one point. To say he did better then Thor is ridiculous.

Thor had battled Durok on like 3 different occasions back to back. And earlier, not only fought his way to Asgard, but fought Odin Ring Loki. Who noted later that his entire plan was to wear Thor down, and even resorted to mentally mess with him by marrying Sif and so on.

It was a great showing for Surfer to keep refusing to give in to Milennius despite being exhausted but in no way did he do way better then Thor or whatever nonsense you were suggesting.

The idea that Surfer has historically done better, much less defeated beings that have beaten up Thor is just unsubstantiated imho.

Death Sentry wins

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, it's not. Not even remotely so.

Seriously? Surfer beat Durok with a huge asterisk. He used time travel. Based on their encounter, Durok would have crushed Surfer in a direct fight:

His blast literally bounced off, he was effortlessly being manhandled and was like knocked out with a single attack at one point. To say he did better then Thor is ridiculous.

Thor had battled Durok on like 3 different occasions back to back. And earlier, not only fought his way to Asgard, but fought Odin Ring Loki. Who noted later that his entire plan was to wear Thor down, and even resorted to mentally mess with him by marrying Sif and so on.

It was a great showing for Surfer to keep refusing to give in to Milennius despite being exhausted but in no way did he do way better then Thor or whatever nonsense you were suggesting.

The idea that Surfer has historically done better, much less defeated beings that have beaten up Thor is just unsubstantiated imho.

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Here we go. Thor failed to defeat Durok, and was essentially killed. While Surfer not only saved Thor's life, he actually knocked Durok out, and defeated him via time dump. No amount sugar coating is going to change these facts.

And are you seriously going to pull an abhi and leave out leave out scans? That's pretty low of you, do you really want to be considered Thor's abhi? 😈

First, you intentionally left out the scans of Surfer using his power to revive Thor from death. I guess it must be embarrassing for you as a Thor fan to see Surfer save Thor's life from Durok, but it happened:

Second, you intentionally left out the last scan of Surfer's fight with Durok. It clearly shows that Surfer knocked out Durok before time dumping him. I repeat, Surfer actually knocked Durok out, something Thor couldn't do:

You attack abhi for leaving out scans, yet here you do the exact same thing when it comes to Thor. You need to follow your own advice, otherwise you'll seem like a hypocrite.

Next time post all the scans. Don't leave scans out to make Thor look better.

Thor fought Durok only two separate times, within the same comic... You make it sound like Thor was fighting Durok for eons or something, when in fact the fights weren't that long. The second fight is when Durok "kills" Thor.

Thor fought Durok a little longer than Surfer did, except unlike Thor, Surfer didn't die and he actually won his fight with Durok.

Let's sum things up:
- Thor failed to hurt Durok, and was killed, and had to be revived by Surfer.
- Surfer actually knocked Durok out, and defeated him via time dump.

The obvious conclusion is Surfer performed much better against Thor. Again, no amount of sugar coating will change this.

From what I know of thor and surfers power level, enraged thor bishslapped surfer, and surfer remarked "THAT.. ACTUALLY HURT!"

So thor is WAY below surfer iMO

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

It was a great showing for Surfer to keep refusing to give in to Milennius despite being exhausted but in no way did he do way better then Thor or whatever nonsense you were suggesting.

The idea that Surfer has historically done better, much less defeated beings that have beaten up Thor is just unsubstantiated imho.

Unsubstantiated? I don't think you know what that word means. I'll post Thor and Surfer's individual fights with Millennius for comparison, with the context.

Let's start with the context of how Surfer was weakened:
- Milleneus traps Surfer in his machine to drain Surfer's power cosmic.
- Milleneus confirms that Surfer will die from this, but Surfer breaks free just before everything went black.

Hence, Surfer was severely weakened during his fight with Millenneus

*Edit: Posts are separate because of the image limit.

Now let's compare how Thor and Surfer did in their individual fights against Millenneus:

Thor vs. Millenneus:

Surfer vs. Millenneus (while weakened):

Surfer not only lasts much longer, he had a much better back and forth, and even physically held his own against Millenneus better than Thor did. Surfer did all of this after having his power cosmic drained.

I think it's very substantiated that Surfer performed better.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Now let's compare how Thor and Surfer did in their individual fights against Millenneus:

Thor vs. Millenneus:

Theres no contest here, surfer is superior I'm sorry, but thor is just too young here.

Originally posted by One-Punch
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Here we go. [b]Thor failed to defeat Durok, and was essentially killed. While Surfer not only saved Thor's life, he actually knocked Durok out, and defeated him via time dump. No amount sugar coating is going to change these facts.

And are you seriously going to pull an abhi and leave out leave out scans? That's pretty low of you, do you really want to be considered Thor's abhi? 😈 [/B]

I never said Surfer did not defeat Durok, but he did so through a time jump bfr or something. It is a showing with a huge asterisk. Your initial post implies that Surfer is somehow more powerful than Thor based on this fight when he was completely outclassed against Durok.

If anything YOU need to stop leaving out context intentionally to present a different picture from what happened.

What are you talking about? I posted the entire fight.

Originally posted by One-Punch
First, you [b]intentionally left out the scans of Surfer using his power to revive Thor from death. I guess it must be embarrassing for you as a Thor fan to see Surfer save Thor's life from Durok, but it happened:
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Why are you implying that I left out some context or something? What does Surfer reviving Thor have to do with Surfer vs. Durok? I acknowledged that Durok practically killed Thor if that's what you mean.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Second, you intentionally left out [b]the last scan of Surfer's fight with Durok. It clearly shows that Surfer knocked out Durok before time dumping him. I repeat, Surfer actually knocked Durok out, something Thor couldn't do:
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I posted all the scenes where Surfer and Durok encounter each other, including the scene where he takes him to the future. Look at my last post.

Again, I posted the entire fight and I already told you that Surfer beat Durok. Smh. It was simply with a huge asterisk and not all relevant unless you think he is going to try and bfr Sentry. Nor does it in anyway imply a power superiority over Thor.

Originally posted by One-Punch
You attack abhi for leaving out scans, yet here you do the exact same thing when it comes to Thor. You need to follow your own advice, otherwise you'll seem like a hypocrite.

Next time post all the scans. Don't leave scans out to make Thor look better.

I do attack him because leaving out context purposefully is shady and underhanded shit.

Aside from the fact that we BOTH know Surfer revived Thor, it's not relevant to Surfer vs. Durok. I'll scan the entire comic from you from the cover to the letter pages if you think I have some issue with posting all the scans (Which is retarded, as this is a well known fight and the scans are easy to come across).

Originally posted by One-Punch
Thor fought Durok only two separate times, [b]within the same comic... You make it sound like Thor was fighting Durok for eons or something, when in fact the fights weren't that long. The second fight is when Durok "kills" Thor.

Thor fought Durok a little longer than Surfer did, except unlike Thor, Surfer didn't die and he actually won his fight with Durok.

Let's sum things up:
- Thor failed to hurt Durok, and was killed, and had to be revived by Surfer.
- Surfer actually knocked Durok out, and defeated him via time dump.

The obvious conclusion is Surfer performed much better against Thor. Again, no amount of sugar coating will change this. [/B]

Thor fought Durok three times back to back (It's a running narrative, the clock does not reset just because it's the next issue). As a matter of fact, right before he fought Durok, he fought Loki (With the Odin Ring).

No, Thor fought Durok for a LOT longer than Surfer. He also fought Durok far more evenly even in close combat while Surfer was continuously manhandled like some limp-wristed fagg*t, was taken out in like one attack.

You lecture me on leaving out Surfer reviving Thor when comparing their respective fights (As if that is relevant) and then here you are, outright lying? Thor fought Durok more than once and for a lot longer than Surfer. Here's the first fight:

"And so the battle rages, minute after minute, blow after blow!"

It took so long that Loki decided to intervene.

And Loki being Loki not only tried to physically beat Thor but destroyed him mentally by flaunting his marriage with Sif at the end of Thor's second fight with Durok:

Correction, Surfer momentarily knocked out Durok through a time-jump (For some reason) and bfr'ed him in to the future.

A great showing of versatility I guess but the entire fight in no way implies that Surfer has any sort of power edge over Thor. As a matter of fact, he looks a lot weaker in direct combat in comparison to Thor if we used Durok as a measuring stick.

A SINGLE punch from Durok had Surfer on his ass for like an entire page. Later on, one direct blast temporarily knocked him out. Thor spent a noticeable amount of time trading blows to the face from Durok and fought him on 3 different occasions (Mostly off-panel for the last two) after already fighting a powerful opponent. WHILE mentally distraught.

On top of that, we have a pissed off Thor one-shot killing Durok:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor58.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor59.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor60.jpg

The idea that Surfer came off as more powerful when using Durok as a measuring stick is not only laughable, but legitimately retarded.

Any version of SENTRY will STOMP SS

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Meh Norrin ftw there is a reason marvel doesn't have him in the same room as this hype machine

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DS crushes him

sentry ftw

Sentry

Originally posted by the Darkone
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Still waiting for -pr- or Bada to prohibit this guy from posting in any Sentry related thread.

I'm still trying to figure out what Millenius, and Durok has to do with DS Sentry ripping Norrin apart? These guys are on totally different levels. Not only would DS Sentry beat Millenius, and Durok, he could probably beat them together. Thor was nearly killed from being thrown through space by DS Sentry for crying out loud. So again why compare these weaklings to him?

I also call bull on Void being "gone", didn't DS use Voidtacles to rape Jen?

Originally posted by SamZED
I also call bull on Void being "gone", didn't DS use Voidtacles to rape Jen?

Yes but you have to remember...Sentry and Void are one. Whatever Void did, he did it with Sentrys power. With that said, I don't see anything weird or out of context with Sentry using that ability since Sentry IS Void.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor was nearly killed from being thrown through space by DS Sentry for crying out loud.

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Originally posted by One-Punch
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Here we go. [b]Thor failed to defeat Durok, and was essentially killed. While Surfer not only saved Thor's life, he actually knocked Durok out, and defeated him via time dump. No amount sugar coating is going to change these facts.

And are you seriously going to pull an abhi and leave out leave out scans? That's pretty low of you, do you really want to be considered Thor's abhi? 😈

First, you intentionally left out the scans of Surfer using his power to revive Thor from death. I guess it must be embarrassing for you as a Thor fan to see Surfer save Thor's life from Durok, but it happened:

Second, you intentionally left out the last scan of Surfer's fight with Durok. It clearly shows that Surfer knocked out Durok before time dumping him. I repeat, Surfer actually knocked Durok out, something Thor couldn't do:

You attack abhi for leaving out scans, yet here you do the exact same thing when it comes to Thor. You need to follow your own advice, otherwise you'll seem like a hypocrite.

Next time post all the scans. Don't leave scans out to make Thor look better.

Thor fought Durok only two separate times, within the same comic... You make it sound like Thor was fighting Durok for eons or something, when in fact the fights weren't that long. The second fight is when Durok "kills" Thor.

Thor fought Durok a little longer than Surfer did, except unlike Thor, Surfer didn't die and he actually won his fight with Durok.

Let's sum things up:
- Thor failed to hurt Durok, and was killed, and had to be revived by Surfer.
- Surfer actually knocked Durok out, and defeated him via time dump.

The obvious conclusion is Surfer performed much better against Thor. Again, no amount of sugar coating will change this. [/B]


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