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^ h1a8 thats a retarded stance about his durability. He survived a planet sized blast. MOS Superman could barely handle a nuke.
As for his supposed speed advantage, not convinced there actually is one, but given Surfer can go intangible, and can do a 360 degree blast, it really doesnt matter.
Surfer wins (probably stomps tbh).
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ h1a8 thats a retarded stance about his durability. He survived a planet sized blast. MOS Superman could barely handle a nuke.As for his supposed speed advantage, not convinced there actually is one, but given Surfer can go intangible, and can do a 360 degree blast, it really doesnt matter.
Surfer wins (probably stomps tbh).
Not only do you not know how powerful the blast is (size doesn't prove anything) but Surfer experienced less than 0.00000001% of the blast. Blast didn't do anything to the Earth.
Why say nonsense like that?
Surfer has no durability feats on the level of Superman-tier power.
When the bell rings, he's a complete statue.
This isn't comic book Surfer.
Originally posted by riv6672
^^^An intangible statue. 😛
He doesn't start the fight intangible and is statued as soon as the bell rings. Superman knocks him off his board, rendering him powerless.
Fox should be ashamed for giving him such a ridiculous weakness.
There's no evidence that Surfer can attack while intangible. The moment he chooses to strike, he becomes vulnerable.
Originally posted by h1a8
He doesn't start the fight intangible and is statued as soon as the bell rings. Superman knocks him off his board, rendering him powerless.
Fox should be ashamed for giving him such a ridiculous weakness.There's no evidence that Surfer can attack while intangible. The moment he chooses to strike, he becomes vulnerable.
When was Surfer physically knocked off of his board? Also, the Surfer felt no threat at all while on Earth until Reed came up with his little trick to scramble his powers.
So Superman is just going to statue and beat up a character with cosmic awareness that has dealt with much greater situations than a flying brick? Lol,,,,um no.
Originally posted by tkitnaWhen was Batman killed? Does that question imply Batman can't be killed?
When was Surfer physically knocked off of his board? Also, the Surfer felt no threat at all while on Earth until Reed came up with his little trick to scramble his powers.So Superman is just going to statue and beat up a character with cosmic awareness that has dealt with much greater situations than a flying brick? Lol,,,,um no.
Surfer can be knocked off his board - unless you can prove that's impossible.
You like making things up. This isn't comic Surfer. There's no evidence of any cosmic awareness when it comes to detecting threats against him. He didn't detect what Reed was about to do to him. Lack of fear isn't proof of cosmic awareness. Does Thanos have cosmic awareness? He didn't fear SW.
Even if Surfer did have it, cosmic awareness doesn't help him in a fight - especially when he's statued.
Originally posted by h1a8
When was Batman killed? Does that question imply Batman can't be killed?Surfer can be knocked off his board - unless you can prove that's impossible.
You like making things up. This isn't comic Surfer. There's no evidence of any cosmic awareness when it comes to detecting threats against him. He didn't detect what Reed was about to do to him. Lack of fear isn't proof of cosmic awareness. Does Thanos have cosmic awareness? He didn't fear SW.
Even if Surfer did have it, cosmic awareness doesn't help him in a fight - especially when he's statued.
He was killed in the Flash movie and we've seen numerous other versions mortally injured since he's just a man. We've never seen Surfer physically removed from his board. Even when Surfer wasn't 100 percent and was being pummeled by rocks from Galactus, he still stayed on his board.
As for cosmic awareness, no he doesn't have spider sense, but he detects suitable planets galaxies away for Galactus and he knew Galactus was coming when nobody else did. Also, being statued means nothing to somebodys who intangible.
The blue and red boyscout loses.
Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer can be knocked off his board - unless you can prove that's impossible.You like making things up. This isn't comic Surfer. There's no evidence of any cosmic awareness when it comes to detecting threats against him. He didn't detect what Reed was about to do to him. Lack of fear isn't proof of cosmic awareness. Does Thanos have cosmic awareness? He didn't fear SW.
Even if Surfer did have it, cosmic awareness doesn't help him in a fight - especially when he's statued.
Originally posted by tkitna
The Surfer was never shown removed from his board by physical means. Its up to you to prove Superman is capable of doing it.The Surfer plays on a larger scale than Superman. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
1. Not being able to be removed from the board by blunt force is a special attribute. Special attributes must be proven; otherwise, characters do not receive them in forum settings.
2. Doom, with the Surfer's power, was knocked off the board by a strike from the Thing’s strength. This supports that he can be knocked off by blunt force.
3. Instead of tanking missiles, the Surfer chose to evade them. Either the writer intended for the missiles to be a threat, or the Surfer had no knowledge of their potential effect, invalidating the awareness argument.
4. When the bell rings, the Surfer is statued. He will not have the opportunity to go intangible, assuming he plans to do so at the bell.
5. Attacking while intangible is also a special attribute. Since the Surfer is not shown doing this, he does not receive that ability in this fight. He must become tangible to attack, making him vulnerable.
This fight is borderline spite. Surfer gets stomped in a few seconds or less.
1. Not being able to be removed from the board by blunt force is a special attribute. Special attributes must be proven; otherwise, characters do not receive them in forum settings.2. Doom, with the Surfer's power, was knocked off the board by a strike from the Thing’s strength. This supports that he can be knocked off by blunt force.
3. Instead of tanking missiles, the Surfer chose to evade them. Either the writer intended for the missiles to be a threat, or the Surfer had no knowledge of their potential effect, invalidating the awareness argument.
4. When the bell rings, the Surfer is statued. He will not have the opportunity to go intangible, assuming he plans to do so at the bell.
5. Attacking while intangible is also a special attribute. Since the Surfer is not shown doing this, he does not receive that ability in this fight. He must become tangible to attack, making him vulnerable.This fight is borderline spite. Surfer gets stomped in a few seconds or less.
Surfer has gone through concussive forces of planets blowing up without being knocked off of his board. A punch from Superman isn't going to do it.
Doom was a novice with Surfers powers and didn't know what he was capable of.
So the Surfer decided to evade missles instead of tanking them. Oh the horror. The Sentry even stopped bullets instead of letting them hit him. Does that mean he couldn't? I can tank punches from my girlfriend, but i'd rather not.
Being statued in the first second of the fight is irrelevant unless of course you think Superman is capable of one shotting Surfer although he has withstood much more than a punch from Superman.
Surfer doesn't need to be intangible although it's an option.
This is spite. Surfer turns Superman into dust and whiffs him away.
Originally posted by tkitna
1. Surfer has gone through concussive forces of planets blowing up without being knocked off of his board. A punch from Superman isn't going to do it.2. Doom was a novice with Surfers powers and didn't know what he was capable of.
3. So the Surfer decided to evade missles instead of tanking them. Oh the horror. The Sentry even stopped bullets instead of letting them hit him. Does that mean he couldn't? I can tank punches from my girlfriend, but i'd rather not.
4. Being statued in the first second of the fight is irrelevant unless of course you think Superman is capable of one shotting Surfer although he has withstood much more than a punch from Superman.
5. Surfer doesn't need to be intangible although it's an option.
This is spite. Surfer turns Superman into dust and whiffs him away.
1. Show us Surfer tanking these so-called concussive forces from planets exploding. Until then, he gets one-shot off the board.
2. The writer didn't stop Doom from being knocked off the board simply because he was a novice and Surfer wasn't. It was a reason the Things strength was used.
3. I presented two scenarios - one of them must be true. You gave an example of scenario two, which again supports my point.
4. Being statued means Surfer can't act. He has no feats of tanking massive blunt force without being knocked out. So not only does he get knocked off his board, he gets one-shot.
5. He has no reasonable way to harm Superman. Superman could just stand still and ignore him.
Originally posted by h1a8
1. Show us Surfer tanking these so-called concussive forces from planets exploding. Until then, he gets one-shot off the board.
2. The writer didn't stop Doom from being knocked off the board simply because he was a novice and Surfer wasn't. It was a reason the Things strength was used.
3. I presented two scenarios - one of them must be true. You gave an example of scenario two, which again supports my point.
4. Being statued means Surfer can't act. He has no feats of tanking massive blunt force without being knocked out. So not only does he get knocked off his board, he gets one-shot.
5. He has no reasonable way to harm Superman. Superman could just stand still and ignore him.
1. Watch the movie
2. Doom isn't Surfer
3. Your scenarios are rarely true
4. Your assuming Surfer would be statued. There is no proof.
5. You truly are an idiot.
Originally posted by tkitna
1. Watch the movie
2. Doom isn't Surfer
3. Your scenarios are rarely true
4. Your assuming Surfer would be statued. There is no proof.
5. You truly are an idiot.
1. I did. I don't recall seeing Surfer tank a planet explosion.
2. That doesn't counter the evidence.
3. My track record is irrelevant to the argument. As I said earlier, Sentry stopped the bullets because he wasn't sure if they could hurt him. Likewise, either the writer intended for the missiles to pose a threat to Surfer, or Surfer didn't know whether they could or couldn't.
4. Surfer would be statued because he has no speed or reaction feats anywhere near Superman's level. Even Wonder Woman would see him moving in slow motion.
5. Concession accepted. I win.