Originally posted by tkitna
You stated that Surfer has no way of hurting Superman even if Superman just stood there. Are you honestly standing behind that statement?
Yes, I am.
If you disagree, kindly provide some power output feats that surpass a ground zero nuclear explosion or the World Engine feat.
Originally posted by h1a8
Not only is Superman vastly more durable than Doom, but Doom was completely fine and fully healed. Some feat.
Doom was fine afterwards per Surfer because he wasn't trying to kill him but only place him elsewhere. You should know that, but you may not due to your novice skills of comprehension.
What does durability have to do with matter manipulation and when has Superman ever displayed a defense against it in the movies? Heck, a Nuke damn near took him out.
Originally posted by tkitna
Doom was fine afterwards per Surfer because he wasn't trying to kill him but only place him elsewhere. You should know that, but you may not due to your novice skills of comprehension.What does durability have to do with matter manipulation and when has Superman ever displayed a defense against it in the movies? Heck, a Nuke damn near took him out.
So you contradicted yourself.
Originally posted by tkitna
He made Doom into a pile of dust and sent him away.
How can Doom be fine if Surfer turned him into a pile of dust? Some feat.
Show us Surfer manipulating beings as durable as Superman. Manipulating human-level durability doesn鈥檛 guarantee the ability to manipulate Superman-tier beings.
Nukes manipulate matter more durable than Doom, effectively vaporizing it.
Originally posted by tkitna
So your arguing that vaporizing Doom and reforming him in another spot means he couldn't have just left him vaporized.I'm done. You are just to stupid to waste any energy on anymore.
Also, I accept your concession on my other point about durability, which renders this one moot.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
LMAO H1 is such a Troll.FYI Doom was pretty damn durable. Took a Super Nova blast from Johnny, was ready to carry on fighting if not being cooled right after. Whereas Superman looked like a corpse from ONLY the Heat (blast was in space) of a Nuke.
Doom wore armor, right? But a nuclear explosion is astronomically more powerful than the Nova Blast. Doom-and any material known to man-would be completely atomized at ground zero of a nuke.
He's not even bulletproof. While he may be more durable than a real human, it's not by a significant margin. Nearly all movie humans show greater durability than real-world humans anyway. He's certainly nowhere near Superman's level of durability-if that鈥檚 what you were trying to troll and suggest.
Originally posted by h1a8
Doom wore armor, right? But a nuclear explosion is astronomically more powerful than the Nova Blast. Doom-and any material known to man-would be completely atomized at ground zero of a nuke.He's not even bulletproof. While he may be more durable than a real human, it's not by a significant margin. Nearly all movie humans show greater durability than real-world humans anyway. He's certainly nowhere near Superman's level of durability-if that鈥檚 what you were trying to troll and suggest.
I think it's clear who the Troll is here.
And no Doom did not wear armour. His skin was the armour. Same as on the space station which was designed to protect them from the cosmic storm.
Originally posted by Darth ThorThe armor formed as a result of his mutation - I know that. My point is that in the second film, he was cured and restored to human form; he no longer had his armored skin.
I think it's clear who the Troll is here.And no Doom did not wear armour. His skin was the armour. Same as on the space station which was designed to protect them from the cosmic storm.
Even then, you ignored my argument about the vast difference in durability between Doom and Superman.
Trolls often ignore the arguments that render other arguments irrelevant.
Originally posted by tkitnaClownish intellectual dishonesty at it's finest. Logic dictates that the Surfer disintegrated and then reformed Doom. If he wants to claim Doom reformed himself, that's something that does not track with Doom's shown powers and he needs to prove that, not the other way around.
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Originally posted by RobtardI never claimed or implied that Doom reformed himself. I'm simply pointing out that it's possible Silver Surfer's blasts can unintentionally produce that effect on individuals, just as his presence causes environmental changes and disrupts the Fantastic Four's powers upon contact.
Clownish intellectual dishonesty at it's finest. Logic dictates that the Surfer disintegrated and then reformed Doom. If he wants to claim Doom reformed himself, that's something that does not track with Doom's shown powers and he needs to prove that, not the other way around.
In other words, the blast may not have been deliberately intended to cause that effect; it's possible the energy naturally causes materials to reform on their own, or that the person automatically returns to their original state once the blast's effect wears off.