Blue Marvel vs Citizen Steel

Started by -K-M-11 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
I suggest reading the comic, then(JSA #22.) A very powerful JSA roster consisting of Alan, Obsidian, KC Superman(who is >> mainstream Superman), Power Girl, Thunderbolt, etc. were completely unable to topple Gog. Then CS waltzes over, doffs his armor, and proceeds to topple Gog with two strikes.

Don't try to downplay that feat. It's actually quite amazing.

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Originally posted by Galan007
I suggest reading the comic, then(JSA #22.) A very powerful JSA roster consisting of Alan, Obsidian, KC Superman(who is >> mainstream Superman), Power Girl, Thunderbolt, etc. were completely unable to topple Gog. Then CS waltzes over, doffs his armor, and proceeds to topple Gog with two strikes.

Don't try to downplay that feat. It's actually quite amazing.

I didn't ask you all of that. nor am I trying to downplay the feat. CS did it, so does that make it impossible for Adam to replicate the feat? Would Gog not have gotten back up if his team didn't rush in with the gravity shackles? I'm asking you questions, not trying to make you go on the defensive. You placed Namor on a level that he has no business being on. So who is actually doing the downplaying here? Answer the questions or not, it depends on you, but they are valid, and in order to move on, need to be answered. if not, why did you chime in?

Originally posted by Stoic
I didn't ask you all of that. nor am I trying to downplay the feat. CS did it, so does that make it impossible for Adam to replicate the feat? Would Gog not have gotten back up if his team didn't rush in with the gravity shackles? I'm asking you questions, not trying to make you go on the defensive. You placed Namor on a level that he has no business being on. So who is actually doing the downplaying here? Answer the questions or not, it depends on you, but they are valid, and in order to move on, need to be answered. if not, why did you chime in?

Simple answer...do you consider Blue Marvel above the JSA roster which consisted of Alan, Obsidian, KC Superman (who is >> mainstream Superman), Power Girl, Thunderbolt, etc? As the team couldn't do what Steel did.

If not, then there is your answer if Adam could do it or not.

You're essentially asking me if I think Adam is capable of preforming a feat that Alan Scott+KC Superman+Thunderbolt+Power Girl(among others) were incapable of...

The answer to that question is a firm no.

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Mungi beat me to it. 👆

Spoon!

Originally posted by Galan007
You're essentially asking me if I think Adam is capable of preforming a feat that Alan Scott+KC Superman+Thunderbolt+Power Girl(among others) were incapable of...

The answer to that question is a firm no.

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Mungi beat me to it. 👆

Then this is what you should have said to begin with. Instead.... actually drop the instead, and let's move forward.

KC Superman you say is the mainstream Superman. Who is Kal? you know the younger one? If CS can generate far more power in a punch without his restraints, then you are probably correct. but one huge feat does not cancel out the several that Adam has on his report card. Who else has he taken down? Has anyone ever given him trouble? This is in my opinion would give a clearer picture than one amazing showing. Most characters as i am sure you will agree have amazing showings. Is there anything else is what i am asking.

CS was taken down by Mammoth from HIVE.

This is the "moon splitting feat" for Marvel. Sure didn't cause much damage

1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AdamBlueMarvel-013_zps4dded4ec.jpg
2. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AdamBlueMarvel-014_zpsdc2f0485.jpg

People need to realize he PUNCHED the moon, he didn't throw the medal through the moon. Basic stuff folks. He even returns years later to get the medal back which is still on the surface. Hell he is shown HOLDING the medal after he punches the moon just a few panels later

Originally posted by -K-M-
This is the "moon splitting feat" for Marvel. Sure didn't cause much damage

1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AdamBlueMarvel-013_zps4dded4ec.jpg
2. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AdamBlueMarvel-014_zpsdc2f0485.jpg

People need to realize he PUNCHED the moon, he didn't throw the medal through the moon. Basic stuff folks

How many things would you say make sense in comics? Let's not go there please. if so we can begin with why Tony's head isn't pulled off by G forces every time he takes to the skies. Dig it?

So you take Marvel at his word when he was being polite and agreeing with Namor about his punch, but ignore Uatu The Watcher saying he could have split the moon in half?

Originally posted by KingD19
CS was taken down by Mammoth from HIVE.

Please say it isn't so.

Originally posted by KingD19
So you take Marvel at his word when he was being polite and agreeing with Namor about his punch, but ignore Uatu The Watcher saying he could have split the moon in half?

Those are the tricks of the trade brother.

Wow he didn't throw the medal through the moon, he is shown a few panels later still HOLDING the medal (of bravery) and then he tosses it to the ground gently and flys away. Years later he returns and finds the medal exactly where he threw it.

Originally posted by KingD19
So you take Marvel at his word when he was being polite and agreeing with Namor about his punch, but ignore Uatu The Watcher saying he could have split the moon in half?

Nope, but you said he did it with a piece of metal...which never happened. Now using stoic's logic...if Namor was put in that place could he replicate the feat?

Shall we pick and choose which statements we wish to follow? If we go from the same story Namor could as well as mentioned was on his level.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Wow he didn't throw the medal through the moon, he is shown a few panels later still HOLDING the medal (of bravery) and then he tosses it to the ground gently and flys away. Years later he returns and finds the medal exactly where he threw it.

So Uatu was talking out of his butt then. Got it. Actually KingD19 should be answering this one. So what do you have KD?

Do I think Namor is capable of nearly splitting the moon in half? No.

I don't think Namor could pull off most of the feats Adam has in book one. Like easily stopping a meteor the size of Arkansas. Single handedly decimating an alien fleet, or picking up a ship weighting in at 93,000 tons.

Namor isn't on his level. Fighting someone doesn't make you on their level. Thing used to fight Hulk all the time, would you say Thing is on Hulk's level? And considering Hulk and Thor are 2 of the biggest big bads on Marvel period, that's saying something that only those 2 have hit him as hard.

@Stoic, regardless of whether he threw the medal, punched the moon, or farted. He still could have split the moon in half. Uatu's not one to lie or talk shit.

Originally posted by Stoic
So Uatu was talking out of his butt then. Got it. Actually KingD19 should be answering this one. So what do you have KD?

Wow way to miss the point, I never said that 😬

Originally posted by KingD19
Do I think Namor is capable of nearly splitting the moon in half? No.

I don't think Namor could pull off most of the feats Adam has in book one. Like easily stopping a meteor the size of Arkansas. Single handedly decimating an alien fleet, or picking up a ship weighting in at 93,000 tons.

Except if we go by quotes, which you all wish to do. Namor IS on that level as said in the same story. Can't pick and choose.

Originally posted by tkitna
Blue Marvel in both.

It was never said Namor was on that level. They fought in the past, and Namor said only Thor and Hulk have ever hit him as hard as Marvel. And Adam playfully brushed it off as a lucky punch.

Marvel's creator said he was on the level of guys like Thor, Hulk and Sentry. Do you truly believe Namor is in that weight class?