Originally posted by Selenial
Uhh, the "Know" was just the wrong word to use.
And in the Dark Playthrough, we don't know, seeing as the aniamtion is the same as the Death Field animation.But no, because the Exile still shows she loves Traya, she tried to redeem and save her, there is no difference between Traya's strike and the Exiles.
As for the quote, yes it is, but I need to go and hunt through to find out where.... I had it in my Kaggath prep from like 8 months ago, but I didn't give a source in my notes.... I know Aurbere and Rayla both share the same views, perhaps they are aware of the source, I'll ask them.
You seem quite knowledgable, do you ever find it hard to remember where as source comes from? Too many damn eras... Too many sourcebooks -_-
Ok.
But Kreia confirms that its the same technique that Nihilus and the Sith use. The Exile only ever uses that technique, the same technique that everyone does throughout the game. It's all connected.
I thought we were talking about the darkside version. At any rate, in the lightside the Exile forgives her, but her feelings and perception of Kreia had definitely changed, as Kreia suggests.
Ok cool. Yeah, sources are hard. I might look through the Kotor CG I guess.
Originally posted by Selenial
And yes, but that's 6 dread masters, who, (And I quote Dread Master Calphayus here) "The fear gave us rage, the pain gave us strength, we were chained to one another, enslaved with higher purpose."
were nothing without each other.
You have played the operation featuring Dread Masters?
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Still, Dread Masters, even with their combing might, did not challenge Emperor Vitiate.
BioWare chose to not explore Emperor Vitiate to great extent but this should not be taken as a sign of lack of power and capability on the part of the character. Emperor Vitiate is noted to have explored the most sinister and uncharted depths of the dark side.
Originally posted by Selenial
Actually, it's not unimpressive, because he wasn't even consciously doing it. It was a direct result of his massive power in the Dark Side of the force, he had the same Death Aura that Darth Nihilus had, that's how impressive it is.And yes, but that's 6 dread masters, who, (And I quote Dread Master Calphayus here) "The fear gave us rage, the pain gave us strength, we were chained to one another, enslaved with higher purpose."
were nothing without each other.
Something he could have set up through ritualistic means. In fact, I find it even more likely that's the case if he didn't have to consciously do it.
Wasn't Styrak able to mentally dominate an army of mercs and pirates by himself?
Originally posted by The_Tempest
No one ever suggested he could drop that sort of mindhaxx in a fight. Only morons who endorse Viti play that card.
We're talking about Sidious' draining of Byss here, not mindhaxx. Try to keep up. 😉
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Just ignore her, LeGenD. She bathed in false quotes, it's only logical her opinions would be wrong too.
I wonder how long Lady has been throwing around those fake quotes. But it does confirm why Selenial is so...out there.
Even if those quotes are fake, which I'm still not sold on, I was the one who was avidly debating them for about 8 pages before you showed up.
If you feel that someone, possibly maybe sort of posting "Fake" quotes is the only way to invalidate or combat my arguments, then I feel bad for you.
I really do.
Originally posted by Nephthys
As his mortal self he was likely far below Sidious.
Emperor Vitiate was "supremely strong in the dark side" while being a mortal. He was just a child when he took control of his homeworld which is BIG STUFF.
Of-course, this doesn't proves that Emperor Vitiate was stronger then lets say (ROTJ) Sidious but he wouldn't be far below.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Something he could have set up through ritualistic means. In fact, I find it even more likely that's the case if he didn't have to consciously do it.Wasn't Styrak able to mentally dominate an army of mercs and pirates by himself?
We're talking about Sidious' draining of Byss here, not mindhaxx. Try to keep up. 😉
Uhh, no. The mercs showed no sign of being dominated, they were there for the money according to both the Pub and Imp storylines.
However, we still know that the Dread Masters could grant each other power from those distances too.
So what? We're talking about it in relation to the drain.
Originally posted by Selenial
Uhh, no. The mercs showed no sign of being dominated, they were there for the money according to both the Pub and Imp storylines.However, we still know that the Dread Masters could grant each other power from those distances too.
Ok thanks, I always wondered about that.
Regardless, they were still his puppets even together.
Originally posted by Nephthys
So what? We're talking about it in relation to the drain.Ok thanks, I always wondered about that.
Regardless, they were still his puppets even together.
Indeed, there was a reason IIRC, something about their motivations being in line, but I can't remember for the life of me.
However we do have to remember that the Dread Masters on oricon brought down a fleet with Terror, but that's basically 6 people using battle meditation. They didn't force storm it.
And the people they corrupted, they mainly corrupted with machines, which you see in the Oricon quest chain.
Originally posted by Selenial
Indeed, there was a reason IIRC, something about their motivations being in line, but I can't remember for the life of me.However we do have to remember that the Dread Masters on oricon brought down a fleet with Terror, but that's basically 6 people using battle meditation. They didn't force storm it.
And the people they corrupted, they mainly corrupted with machines, which you see in the Oricon quest chain.
It surely isn't force storm and not as impressive but I still wouldn't call it battle meditation.