Techno beasts are obviously, extremely vulnerable to lightning. That doesn't sound like Bane's most impressive feat to me. And was that not when he was wearing his amplifying orbalisk armor. I assume the other feats brought up were not?
Difference is that he did this with a telekinetic wave, rather than lightning.
Regardless though, it was a nexus feat, and it's as you said:
All it took was a DS nexus for Dooku to fight as Yoda's near equal.
Also, aren't we discussing DoE Bane, not RoT? The latter is significantly stronger, after all.
Beni,
I am expecting a response.
Link: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=595434&pagenumber=33
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Originally posted by The_Tempest
LeGenD called, he wants his catch phrase back.
Neph is one of my unwitting pwns.
Originally posted by EmperordmbMissed this, good point. However considering he could hold off two blades with ease four should not be an issue.
I'd also like to point out that Dooku was holding off Grievous's speed when the General was only using two arms, which would cut his striking speed in half.Hell, even POD Bane is capable of ten strikes per second, and his speed by the time of DOE is significantly greater.
There isn't much disparity between deflecting volleys of blaster bolts and raindrops, really. If anything, though, the raindrop feat is the more impressive--And Bane kept it up for 10 minutes. Very impressive, though also overrated.
Regardless, almost no one matches Grievous is pure striking speed--And Bane is doubtlessly included in that categorization.
Based on what? He never replicated that striking feat, and he wasn't deflecting rain across his entire body. He would avoid the rain drops with manuevers and dodges, its not as if he fanned out and deflected it from all angles when he was practicing. Saesee Tiin and Malgus have deflected three separate volleys at once from different angles, these are more impressive than Bane dancing around his yard
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDDon't worry, I haven't forgotten about you.
🥷I am aware of the fact that Dromund Kaas is strong in the dark side on the whole, thanks to Emperor Vitiate's actions. However, I am not sure if the label of nexus can be casually assigned to regions strong in the light and dark sides of the Force.
IMO, nexus represents a region containing an unusually strong concentration of energy. Such a concentration of energy can have an impact on living beings, if visited.
EXAMPLE: Emperor Vitiate transformed Dark Temple in to a nexus of dark side energy, a place which could drive living beings insane:
Hundreds of years ago, the Sith Emperor ordered the construction of the Dark Temple as a burial place for his dead and defeated enemies, "to aid them in becoming one with the Force." Little is known of what rituals the Emperor performed there, but the Dark Temple has become a nexus of powerful dark side energy, and a place where ancient weapons and ancient secrets of the Sith lay sealed away in cavernous chambers. Although the Dark Temple grounds have always been a dangerous place for the weak-willed (the expansion of the Kaas City power grid into tunnels beneath the temple drove a thousand slaves mad), the temple itself remained sealed until recently, when an expedition of power-hungry Sith Lords and their servants breached the gateway. The Dark Council did not sanction this intrusion, nor did it punish the rogue Sith; no one returned from the expedition to punish. Violent electrical storms surrounded the temple for the first week after it was opened, and since then, additional expeditions have been sent by the council to determine the temple’s status. Their reports have not been made public. (Taken from [B]Star Wars: The Old Republic
)In Kaas City, normal citizens could live without any issue. So I am not convinced that entire Dromund Kaas represents a nexus of dark side energy. If this would be the case then their would have been no need to officially confirm Dark Temple as a nexus of dark side energy. Common sense, bro.
Of-course, I am considering the situation of Dromund Kaas during TOR era, not in the future eras. During the era of Luke, Dromund Kaas was an abandoned planet and it is not clear what happened there in a long span of time. I know about FOTJ based lore, haven't taken much interest in it but have the sources.
How exactly an old source carries more merit then a newer one? Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan acknowledges Surik's victory over Sith Triumvirate and extends her story further. It is learned that she was not powerful enough to defeat a Dark Council member Darth Nyriss. This doesn't implies that she cannot defeat any Dark Council member in history but that she stood no chance against Darth Nyriss. This development suggests that Darth Nyriss could be a match for Darth Traya or possibly stronger, certainly a superior combatant at minimum.*
Paying attention is not enough, accepting valid points is important.
Your methodology to evaluate the power of characters is suitable for only well-known characters, not every character including Emperor Vitiate. I don't think talents such as foresight and some others determine how powerful a character is.
Anyways, you may point out a thread in the official SWTOR forum in which I should give this argument a try.
Apart from a statement from Mr. Lucas which contains the word "maybe," is their an official statement which confirms that Vader is 80% of Sidious?
Also, I really doubt that Sidious dwarfed Revan in power as of ROTJ. Revan became the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy or possibly history during the Mandalorian Wars (Jedi Order's most powerful champion), he further grew in power later on as evident from his performance inside the Star Forge, quick dismissal of Darth Nyriss and an explicit statement in Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan. Centuries later, Revan was able to hold his own against an Imperial Strike Team in a battle after enduring torture of unprecedented scale; in this battle, Revan demonstrated sufficient raw power to pour multiple asteroids on the platform while dueling the Strike Team.
You do realize how heavy even a small asteroid is?
Well, check this revelation:
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*Darth Traya is also more powerful then Meetra Surik, confirmed in Star Wars: The Complete Encyclopedia. [/B]
1. Good, now that your back in your cave lets collapse the entrance.
2. The definition of a Force Nexus is as follows:
...any location where the Force, or any particular aspect of the Force, was unusually strong.
--Wookieepedia
Unless you have a conflicting source. Dromund Kaas is unusually strong in the Force for a planet, it is therefore a DS nexus. End of discussion.
As I explained to Neph, nothing happened on Kaas in current continuity that could have transformed it into a DS nexus, to assume that it did on no basis is to invite fanon. And we have no basis. Especially considering the following facts:
1. The entire planet is shrouded in lightning, Odile Vaiken discovered a Teratentaek on the world when it was first colonised and every species on the planet is hostile and deadly - common traits of planets that have become Force Nexuses.
2. The planet has long since existed under the reign of the ancient Sith Empire, who made Korriban and Ziost into DS nexuses simply by being their. Kaas likely shared their fate.
3. The Sith Emperor empowered the nexus further by building the Sith Temple and infecting the entire ionosphere with Sith Magic.
3. The HoloNet says the following:
...the planet is bristling with the energy of the dark side.
Need I go on?
The fact that BioWare does not acknowledge/describe it as a nexus does not change the fact it definitively is, and that any dark sider on its surface would be empowered by some measure - if they were capable of tapping into the energies.
To assume otherwise is plainly illogical.
Nobody is of course saying its as powerful as the nexus that is the Sith Temple.
4. I never said older sources are meritorious that newer ones, I said the date in which a source is produced is totally irrelevant - all that matters is there level of canon. KOTOR II and the Revan novel exist on the same levels of canon, therefore neither is superior.
However the Revan novel creates illogical inconsistencies, which I and others have provided solutions for. And yes it is an inconsistency as it portrays Traya to be ridiculously weak despite her surpassing Nyriss in terms of abilities. Considering how many disadvantages the Exile had in that final confrontation.
5. That's the issue, your points are invalid. Such as the argument that the Sith Emperor could collapse the Citadel because it was destroyed during a Kaggath by two DC members, which is frankly laughable.
6. Elaborate. And if you which to respond do so here.
7. Yes this one:
However, after all of his limbs were severed and he was extremely burned on Mustafar he lost much of his Force potential. As Darth Vader, Skywalker was believed to have had roughly 80% of the strength of the Emperor. Had he sustained none of his injuries on Mustafar he would have been twice as powerful.
--George Lucas
Unless you have some reason to doubt George Lucas's claims?
Revan's less than impressive performance against the Sith Emperor proves that he was dwarfed in power by Sidious. Considering Sidious himself claimed Vader would be capable of killing him.
8. Do you realise how heavy those asteroids where? Clearly not, here is someone who actually does. He estimates the weight of the asteroids to be on average half a tonne.
Vader has performed TK in the 10 to 20 tonne region with equal ease:
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He also finds your lack of faith disturbing, very disturbing.
