Mystique vs Bucky

Well first, he's beaten Creed which I don't see Cap or Bucky doing. The claws would make the difference in the fight. Wolverine won via skill and also have claws.. Something Bucky and Cap don't and I don't see them being able to really hurt creed before he would catch up. We're also talking about comparable strength and if you go by comics Sabertooth is stronger. his healing factor is better than either and I dont' recall him getting tired. His stamina might not be at Cap's level but it won't go that long anyways. I would also submit Weapon x.. granted Wolverine had help but if you replace Wolverine with Cap and he has the help of Creed... He doesn't get the job done and would be easily killed. So while it wasn't a 1 v 1 victory for Wolverine... he did land the killing blow and if you replace Wolverine for Cap... Cap and Creed have zero chance. Again illustrating Wolverine is more formidable than Cap.. and Mystique got the better of him.

Cap could cut Deadpool's head off just as easily.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Only if I can get a reach around after?

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Originally posted by KingD19
Cap could cut Deadpool's head off just as easily.

Ummm no.. .he would've been killed long before that even happened in their one v one fight portion. Further, how would he even cut his head off.. with what?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ummm no.. .he would've been killed long before that even happened in their one v one fight portion. Further, how would he even cut his head off.. with what?

The shield.

Put Cap in the same situation and he'd be mainly on the defensive, but I believe he'd survive to the end.

And he could cut his head off with his shield, which he has used to cut things off before, like a Chitauri's arm.

Umm No... He's not replicating what Wolverine did nor surviving the one v one part of the fight. You didn't answer the first part.. So you think he beat Creed as well?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Well first, he's beaten Creed which I don't see Cap or Bucky doing. The claws would make the difference in the fight. Wolverine won via skill and also have claws.. Something Bucky and Cap don't and I don't see them being able to really hurt creed before he would catch up. We're also talking about comparable strength and if you go by comics Sabertooth is stronger. his healing factor is better than either and I dont' recall him getting tired. His stamina might not be at Cap's level but it won't go that long anyways. I would also submit Weapon x.. granted Wolverine had help but if you replace Wolverine with Cap and he has the help of Creed... He doesn't get the job done and would be easily killed. So while it wasn't a 1 v 1 victory for Wolverine... he did land the killing blow and if you replace Wolverine for Cap... Cap and Creed have zero chance. Again illustrating Wolverine is more formidable than Cap.. and Mystique got the better of him.

lol. No, just no.

Give Cap his shield and he'll make quick work of Creed. Make it a pure h2h fight and disallow Creed from using claws so it's really without weapons and Cap still makes quick work of Creed.

Barakpool was completely owning Wolverine and Creed. The only reason they survived that barrage was due to their healing factor, not due to skill. Replace Wolverine with Cap, give Cap that same healing factor and together with Creed he'd take out Barakapool faster than Wolverine.

Also just to add: Creed completely dominated Wolverine before his adamantium upgrade. Wolverine beat Creed after the upgrade. Just goes to prove that Wolverine beat Creed not due to skill but due to his adamantium.

Originally posted by FrothByte
lol. No, just no.

Give Cap his shield and he'll make quick work of Creed. Make it a pure h2h fight and disallow Creed from using claws so it's really without weapons and Cap still makes quick work of Creed.

Barakpool was completely owning Wolverine and Creed. The only reason they survived that barrage was due to their healing factor, not due to skill. Replace Wolverine with Cap, give Cap that same healing factor and together with Creed he'd take out Barakapool faster than Wolverine.

Also just to add: Creed completely dominated Wolverine before his adamantium upgrade. Wolverine beat Creed after the upgrade. Just goes to prove that Wolverine beat Creed not due to skill but due to his adamantium.

False, that's why he beat Creed... he beat him because he outskiled him as well. Just look at the opening rushes in their first fights. The first time they rush each other creed got the better of it and preceded to start to win the fight. Flash forward to the second meeting.. Wolverine clearly learned from his mistakes and won the opening encounter... even commenting that Creed is getting slow. So no, it wasn't just because of the adamantium as I've just illustrated.

Are you trying to be a clownshoes on purpose here? Why would we take away Creed and his claws again? We wouldn''t and with them Creed dominates Cap or Bucky. Mystique didn't have the luxury of a weapon or adamantium and was still able to fend off wolverine with longer more powerful claws than Creed. So no again, Creed gets his claws and guts Cap or Bucky. This again illustrates Mystiques fighting skill and being able to dominate a fight with no shield or weapons... Cap and Zero chance of beating Wolverine.

It's literally laughable to say Cap would make quick work of Creed.. somebody stronger than him and with a better healing factor. It's literally laughable to suggest that. I doubt cap could even hurt Creed really but certainly would do zero significant or lasting damage.

Further, Cap would have zero chance of doing anything to Deadpool... like none.. He would've been killed in their initial one v one encounter before Creed even becomes involved. To even think he could do anything or add anything in that fight is laughable at best.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
False, that's why he beat Creed... he beat him because he outskiled him as well. Just look at the opening rushes in their first fights. The first time they rush each other creed got the better of it and preceded to start to win the fight. Flash forward to the second meeting.. Wolverine clearly learned from his mistakes and won the opening encounter... even commenting that Creed is getting slow. So no, it wasn't just because of the adamantium as I've just illustrated.

Are you trying to be a clownshoes on purpose here? Why would we take away Creed and his claws again? We wouldn''t and with them Creed dominates Cap or Bucky. Mystique didn't have the luxury of a weapon or adamantium and was still able to fend off wolverine with longer more powerful claws than Creed. So no again, Creed gets his claws and guts Cap or Bucky. This again illustrates Mystiques fighting skill and being able to dominate a fight with no shield or weapons... Cap and Zero chance of beating Wolverine.

It's literally laughable to say Cap would make quick work of Creed.. somebody stronger than him and with a better healing factor. It's literally laughable to suggest that. I doubt cap could even hurt Creed really but certainly would do zero significant or lasting damage.

Further, Cap would have zero chance of doing anything to Deadpool... like none.. He would've been killed in their initial one v one encounter before Creed even becomes involved. To even think he could do anything or add anything in that fight is laughable at best.

There's so many things wrong with this post that I don't even know where to start.

I give up man. If you really think that Wolverine is just that skilled and that Creed is stronger that either Cap or Bucky... well I guess there's no way I'm gonna change your mind.

Originally posted by FrothByte
There's so many things wrong with this post that I don't even know where to start.

I give up man. If you really think that Wolverine is just that skilled and that Creed is stronger that either Cap or Bucky... well I guess there's no way I'm gonna change your mind.

Do tell, how much stronger is Cap than creed? I'm curious about your math on this subject.

Further, do you think cap and bucky beat Creed h2h while Creed has his claws?

Cap has held a motorcycle above his head with 3-4 women sitting on it and he wasn't even straining. He's punched through a submarine's window. In a clip from AOU he's shown ripping a log in half with his barehands.

What strength feats does creed have? And I'm not talking about the Taylor Mane version.

As for Cap beating Creed, yes I believe he'll beat him in h2h. Happy?

That's what you're missing though.. much like in comics bad guys don't have lifting feats like that. Heroes save the day by doing crap like that.... bad guys just kick those heroes asses proving their strength. If you read comics.. can you name the lifting feats of Thanos... or Darkseid... or Mangog... or any number of bad guys? They have next to none, but they do have feats of beating the shit out of people who do. So why would creed having lifting or strength feats in the movies? He wouldn't. However, he's a character based on comics, and in comics Creed is stronger than Cap.

Cap wouldn't beat Creed and to even think so is simply laughable. Cap couldn't even begin to do any lasting damage on Creed and barely hurt him. Creed could and would hurt Cap. Yeah, I guess we don't have much to talk about then.....

Creed's strength feats in Origins are nothing Cap couldn't do. He tackles Logan through the bar wall, and he flips him into some logs. He also knocks him into a bulldozer scoop. That's about it.

Wait. So Movie Creed is stronger than movie Cap because Comics Creed is stronger than Cap?

Why are you people still arguing at this point?

Is KuRuPT really arguing that movie Cap having better feats means that he's weaker, because comics?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Is KuRuPT really arguing that movie Cap having better feats means that he's weaker, because comics?

Yes. Yes he is.

Creed would give Cap an extremely hard time. The dude was an animal.

If we go by feats and their fight scenes, he would put up a fight, but he wouldn't be anything Cap couldn't handle if he took it seriously.

Originally posted by KingD19
If we go by feats and their fight scenes, he would put up a fight, but he wouldn't be anything Cap couldn't handle if he took it seriously.

How is Cap getting past his Regen? Not to mention his strength and claws?