Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I think by harmed he means hit..but if he was actually harmed, wouldn't he have been unable to get back up and fight more?
I don't think he's actually seen the film, but is youtube debating off the fight scenes. How else would you explain his lack of basic Superman lore.
Originally posted by Robtard
"Alien Battle Armor" =/= clothes
Still avoiding.. Which releases more kinetic energy a punch from a krptonian or atomic breathe.. Simple question Robbie ?
You avoiding.. Is this not a common theme in action movies. Literally director after director doesn't care that clothes aren't damaged like they should be. They dont' care that this would normally take all their close right off.. they still have their clothes look just like new. It happens literally all the time. Yet here, that isn't the case it was only because the battle armor was SO STRONG. ohhh that kryptonian metal it's the strongest EVER!!! Only we know it's not is it? We know that a casual backhand without even trying can rip it open. No flying or energy needed just a casual backhand.
Answer me this.. what is superman's suit made out of? It sustained no damage what so ever (hmmmm just the theme I was talking about) yet it's not Kryptonian metal is it. Cape looks like normal fabric. yet look at what it endured... HMMMMMMM. Damn I love backing you into a corner where you can't get out. Well you back yourself there.. I just walk the dog .
Originally posted by Robtard
Nope. Still don't get it. Basic Science > YouSo you're saying you have the reasoning capabilities of an "8 year old" 😂
Tell me, have you ever relaxed underwater with your eyes closed letting the current gently take you? That's what Kal was doing. Prove me wrong. Try.
Already did.. He wasn't out there relaxing going for a swim. I've done just what you describe when I'm relaxing in the water. What we wouldn't say and the difference is.. THE TRAUMA he just went through right before he's shown lifeless in the water.. eyes closed and sinking. It's bordering on retarded to even think he was resting after that. if he was shown going for a swim and then shown doing that.. sure. When he's shown going through trauma and then like that.. yeah we say he's KO'd.
I honestly don't think you understand the Pandora's box you've just opened up by your stance. Somebody is hit in the face.. sent flying.. not moving... Ohhh nah he was just resting mid fight. God I'm going to love owning you with your butthurt excuses for superman. HAHAHAH. NOW, can I get that pic you in your superman pj's?
Originally posted by Robtard
Show me one scene of Superman being "injured".
ummm you mean besides being KO'd? he was clearly harmed when you're KO'd. You mean besides the look on his face when Zod or company punched him and he's keeled over with a pained look on his face? You mean besides the... The world engine beam is really hurting me look on his face? All these things show he's capable of being harmed. When he's sent flying and motionless on the ground not moving.. He was clearly harmed. If not, why was he lying there not moving in the middle of a fight. Ohhh that's right he was RESTING BWAHHAAHHAH. Can to post anymore gems where you own yourself?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Still avoiding.. Which releases more kinetic energy a punch from a krptonian or atomic breathe.. Simple question Robbie ?
Nothing's been avoided and the answer to that is obvious to everyone except you. The K-Punch 👆
Proof: When Kal and Zod where exchanging blows the shockwaves were damaging nearby buildings. That didn't happen when Godzilla fired 'her' breath.
You just got destroyed again 👆
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think he's actually seen the film, but is youtube debating off the fight scenes. How else would you explain his lack of basic Superman lore.
How do you explain Superman being sent flying and lying there not responding if he wasn't harmed? If he wasn't harmed at all.. why not get up right away and fight back? LOL. Ohh because he was HARMED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J72eEF2X-Q
We LITERALLY see his head move back from conventional weapons. This isn't superman of the 60's TV show standing there and not even moving an inch when bullets hit him. That isn't even comic book superman. Comic book superman can and has been hurt... KO'd... bleeding.. cut.. EVERYTHING above. he's not invulnerable. Sure he's durable but not invulnerable
Now, being that we can't use comics... Please cite the narration in the movie where it says he's invulnerable.. since you know we can't use comics lol. Cite the scene or I'll cite this as more bs from you Robbie.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
It was stated in comics and shown in comics, and shown in the movie..Invulnerability
of solar energy. His invulnerability has enabled him to withstand Darkseid's omega beams, a feat originally thought to be impossible. In the rare instances, however, that Superman has required medical attention, this resistance to injuries has complicated necessary procedures such as surgery. For instance, when a criminal shot him with a kryptonite bullet, a surgeon was forced to give Superman a controlled exposure to the mineral, thereby temporarily weakening his skin enough to make the incisions necessary to remove internal fragments of the bullet.[8] Superman can also withstand kryptonite in certain circumstances, such as lifting an island made of kryptonite and tossing it into space in Superman Returns. Superman's invulnerability is further increased by his bio-electric aura, which protects him from some attacks and can be extended to protect others like in All Star Superman. In some versions, this power greatly retards his aging and increases as he gets older, sometimes rendering him effectively immortal. The epilogue to the Justice Society of America storyline "Thy Kingdom Come" (a sequel of sorts to the Kingdom Come limited series) showing Superman surviving 1,000 years into the future, albeit as a very elderly, hunched-over man. Another version in DC One Million lives through the 853rd Century, some 83,200 years from now, though he was living inside the sun for thousands of years before coming out, making him godlike in his abilities.
Immunity to almost all forms of harm and ailments, including extreme force and extremely high temperatures. Effectiveness has ranged from nothing less than a "bursting shell" being able to pierce his skin (in the beginning of the mythos) to being completely unharmed by a star going supernova. Explanations for this ability have ranged from Kryptonians having a molecular structure with a density superior to that of titanium and emitting an unbreakable [b]aurahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_and_abilities_of_Superman
Moving on now that that aura is a fact.
Godzilla's breath nuked a city now? [/B]
That isn't true time and you know it. Citing some random wiki page isn't proof. Should I show you scans of superman being impaled and bleeding? how about KO'd from energy or blunt force trauma? Literally all these things have happened NUMEROUS times in comics. you know this and I have no idea why you're being obtuse about it. This is all besides the point.. comics have no relevance here. Post the scene where it says superman is invulnerable
Originally posted by Robtard
Nothing's been avoided and the answer to that is obvious to everyone except you. The K-Punch 👆Proof: When Kal and Zod where exchanging blows the shockwaves were damaging nearby buildings. That didn't happen when Godzilla fired 'her' breath.
You just got destroyed again 👆
Not it wasn't... When Kal was fighting Faora and Nam and punching away... NOT ONE SINGLE BUILDING WAS DESTROYED FROM THE KINETIC energy released by those punches. NOT ONE. Shit windows weren't even shown breaking from the punches. Building were destroyed when Zod and superman fought WUT???? We literally see them punch each other near building and NOTHING happens to the buildings.. Windows don't even break. Please post the video so you can own yourself again. I love when you do that.
Here's a trick question.. Why even where battle armor? Superman normal looking clothes and Zod's sustained NO damage during their entire ordeal. It appears whatever that material is, is just as strong as the battle armor eh? Then why even wear it since neither was damaged? (ooo wait there's that whole pesky clothes aren't destroyed thing again) lol
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not it wasn't... When Kal was fighting Faora and Nam and punching away... NOT ONE SINGLE BUILDING WAS DESTROYED FROM THE KINETIC energy released by those punches. NOT ONE. Shit windows weren't even shown breaking from the punches. Building were destroyed when Zod and superman fought WUT???? We literally see them punch each other near building and NOTHING happens to the buildings.. Windows don't even break. Please post the video so you can own yourself again. I love when you do that.Here's a trick question.. Why even where battle armor? Superman normal looking clothes and Zod's sustained NO damage during their entire ordeal. It appears whatever that material is, is just as strong as the battle armor eh? Then why even wear it since neither was damaged? (ooo wait there's that whole pesky clothes aren't destroyed thing again) lol
How embarrassing for you. You should Youtube the Kal/Zod fight scenes, shockwaves from their blows where breaking things. You got utterly destroyed here.
"Why wear battle armor?" This is your "trick question". Really? The obvious: Did you not notice that on Krypton the Kryptonians don't have superpowers. Did you not notice that when Zod finally focused and realized his potential he removed the armor. Please, think before you type.
Originally posted by Robtard
How embarrassing for you. You should Youtube the Kal/Zod fight scenes, shockwaves from their blows where breaking things. You got destroyed.Really? "Why wear battle armor?" Did you not notice that on Krypton the Kryptonians don't have superpowers? Did you notice that when Zod finally focused and realized his potential he removed the armor? Please, think before you type.
Wrong again, it LITERALLY shows building NOT being destroyed from their punches. Shall I post the smallville fight? Were buildings or windows taken out by the shockwaves of their punches? Do say they were.. PLEASE
That isn't what I was saying.. I'm asking you two questions...
1. What was the material made out of that Superman ws wearing and zod underneath his suit? Seems it was just as durable as the armor as it looked just like new after going through all he did.
2. Second part, if regular clothes are as durable as battle suits.. why even wear them? All they would need is their helmets to keep out the atmosphere but nothing else. It seems normal kryptonian clothes are just as durable as battle suits eh?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How do you explain Superman being sent flying and lying there not responding if he wasn't harmed? If he wasn't harmed at all.. why not get up right away and fight back? LOL. Ohh because he was HARMED.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J72eEF2X-Q
We LITERALLY see his head move back from conventional weapons. This isn't superman of the 60's TV show standing there and not even moving an inch when bullets hit him. That isn't even comic book superman. Comic book superman can and has been hurt... KO'd... bleeding.. cut.. EVERYTHING above. he's not invulnerable. Sure he's durable but not invulnerable
Now, being that we can't use comics... Please cite the narration in the movie where it says he's invulnerable.. since you know we can't use comics lol. Cite the scene or I'll cite this as more bs from you Robbie.
now cite the narration that states he's invulnerable or concede the movie never stated this.
Originally posted by Robtard
Proof: When Kal and Zod where exchanging blows the shockwaves were damaging nearby buildings. That didn't happen when Godzilla fired 'her' breath.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wrong again, it LITERALLY shows building NOT being destroyed from their punches.
😂 <--- at you
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That isn't true time and you know it. Citing some random wiki page isn't proof. Should I show you scans of superman being impaled and bleeding? how about KO'd from energy or blunt force trauma? Literally all these things have happened NUMEROUS times in comics. you know this and I have no idea why you're being obtuse about it. This is all besides the point.. comics have no relevance here. Post the scene where it says superman is invulnerable
Where was he impaled and bleeding in MoS?😂
Cmon man, I don't like turning your arguments on you but this is to easy.
Honestly I don't believe you believe some of this stuff you are saying.
Surviving the WE and Black Hole means invulnerable yes? Just because he got hit and knocked down does not mean he's not invulnerable. Like I said before was he just supposed to sit there and have their hits reflected back at them? It would not be a real movie then.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Godzilla Atomic Breath.
YouTube videovs
World Engine.
Two feats compared. WE outclasses it..
It was wrecking the city and planet, Atomic breath didn't do much of anything to anyone.
I still dont get how the atomic breath was >WE..
Watch the difference....
Atomic breath momentarily Ko'd the MUTO, one is destroying a city and the whole planet..
It was not till later when he breathed it down their neck that it killed them.
Be reasonable here.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Where was he impaled and bleeding in MoS?😂Cmon man, I don't like turning your arguments on you but this is to easy.
Honestly I don't believe you believe some of this stuff you are saying.
Surviving the WE and Black Hole means invulnerable yes? Just because he got hit and knocked down does not mean he's not invulnerable. Like I said before was he just supposed to sit there and have their hits reflected back at them? It would not be a real movie then.
Time you're better than this. U claimed he was invulnerable in comics n that's the basis for the character. Yet I could cite 100s of examples of him NOT being invulnerable in comics. Literally it's that much. So he's not invulnerable in comics nor in the movie. If he was truly invulnerable why was he laying face first not moving after Nam kicked him? Cause he was kod. If he was invulnerable as u claim it wouldn't have had the least bit of an effect on him n he'd be instantly fighting back. He didn't because he was harmed. Same when faora slammed him... face down ... not moving ... eyes closed. Why was he just laying there if he was ok. Why was he kod in the water? Why when faora hit him he looked hurt n dazed on the ground? He wasn't invulnerable and if he was these things wouldn't have had that effect right ?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I still dont get how the atomic breath was >WE..Watch the difference....
Atomic breath momentarily Ko'd the MUTO, one is destroying a city and the whole planet..
It was not till later when he breathed it down their neck that it killed them.
Be reasonable here.
Ya, I agree. Don't understand how anyone could think that either.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Time you're better than this. U claimed he was invulnerable in comics n that's the basis for the character. Yet I could cite 100s of examples of him NOT being invulnerable in comics. Literally it's that much. So he's not invulnerable in comics nor in the movie. If he was truly invulnerable why was he laying face first not moving after Nam kicked him? Cause he was kod. If he was invulnerable as u claim it wouldn't have had the least bit of an effect on him n he'd be instantly fighting back. He didn't because he was harmed. Same when faora slammed him... face down ... not moving ... eyes closed. Why was he just laying there if he was ok. Why was he kod in the water? Why when faora hit him he looked hurt n dazed on the ground? He wasn't invulnerable and if he was these things wouldn't have had that effect right ?
Invulnerability has been applies to like ever single comic character like Superman, Thanos, Zeus, Living Tribunal, even Cosmic Armor Superman was destroyed, so they all end up hurt right, no matter how strong they are.
Invulnerability is a loosely used term for extremely hard to kill or severely injury.
Invulnerability applies to Superman in comics and applies to him in movies and shows as well.
He was show to be temporarily dazed in the water but had no reason to get up and do anything, he saved the people, he obviously could not swim back the ship he just jumped off of to save the people and reveal his secret, so what did he do? He listened to the whales. He didn't have any where else pressing to be and that gave the director time in the movie to show back story on him in his childhood.
Moving on.
When Faora and Namek hit him, he should have been killed yes? The fact that he was only momentarily dazed, getting back up means more then staying down in a fight? He went on to whoop some more ass every time. That was his first super powered fight he had ever been in. Notice how his next fight with Zod there was none of that?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Invulnerability has been applies to like ever single comic character like Superman, Thanos, Zeus, Living Tribunal, even Cosmic Armor Superman was destroyed, so they all end up hurt right, no matter how strong they are.Invulnerability is a loosely used term for extremely hard to kill or severely injury.
Invulnerability applies to Superman in comics and applies to him in movies and shows as well.
He was show to be temporarily dazed in the water but had no reason to get up and do anything, he saved the people, he obviously could not swim back the ship he just jumped off of to save the people and reveal his secret, so what did he do? He listened to the whales. He didn't have any where else pressing to be and that gave the director time in the movie to show back story on him in his childhood.
Moving on.
When Faora and Namek hit him, he should have been killed yes? The fact that he was only momentarily dazed, getting back up means more then staying down in a fight? He went on to whoop some more ass every time. That was his first super powered fight he had ever been in. Notice how his next fight with Zod there was none of that?
That's just it buddy, you're using the term loosely but it's not a loose term. It's very clear in its definition. UNABLE to be harmed or injured. This doesn't apply to superman in the movie or comics. He has been harmed he has been injured, and not just once or twice, time after time. That's my point and what I'm saying here. That doesn't mean superman isn't really durable, he is, but he's also able to be harmed or injured.