Superman (Man of Steel) vs Godzilla (2014)

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
[B]You don't say... Is it easier for a plane to bust through a skyscraper or a 3 story mansion?

Superman's body doesn't buckle under his own force like a plane does due to its sturdier and more solid construction that doesn't rely upon fuel that easily combusts.

It can mean that but I could list example after example where it's the complete opposite. There is no lack of understanding of physics, it's a lack of basic common sense on your parts. Superman has never ever tried such a strat before ever.

But he did on the World Engine.

We have NO idea if he could even break through Godzilla's hide in the first place without KOing himself.

Why would he KO himself from flying at Godzilla? He can withstand his own flying force just fine.

Yet, this is the strat you guys are claiming will work. When we've seen it flat out NOT work when he's tried it. Your guys reason it will work.. well duh.. he's bigger and has more mass thus he'll just go right through him like a knife through butter. That isn't proof as their are countless examples of smaller objects having a harder time going through. Think about it... Does a bullet travel through a dog easier or a bear? That is essentially what you're saying. The bear has a thicker hide.. more fat more bones to travel through and get in the way of. Same thing here.. You're forgetting that Godzilla's hit has taken HIGH caliber bullets to no effect.. missiles and they did nothing to him... That's the issue here..

A bullet will enter both just as easily. Once Superman enters Godzilla, he is free to kill the big lizard however he wants. 👆

He could also easily go through or around the eye.

Bullets and missiles are nothing compared to Superman my son.

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect and you still don't understand it seems.

What is "doesn't mean smaller sharp objects pass easier than smaller objects" supposed to mean when we're talking about Superman using his body as a missile. Do you even know what you're ranting about.

That was your theory.. you said it was easier to travel though something that has a greater mass and is more immoveable. That was YOUR theory. I'm pointing out that isn't always true is it Robbie?

Do I need to check quoting your video post or are you going to admit he did sink?

Originally posted by juggerman
I've also never been tossed thru a wall in IHOP. WHat has happened to be in fights has no relevence here. You made a claim and got all butt hurt when you couldn't back it up. Just do better next time.

What age are people in Middle School? Gimme a range please and then look back at how dumb you are being.

That's well and good for NORMAL HUMANS. We are talking about an alien race that are well beyond what we are capable of. Meaning your boat story is dumb as hell. How about this one: You see a 7 foot man get shot by bullets fired out of a chopper. The man is sent flying. HE's dead right? RIGHT? IOW stop trying to compare human reactions with alien ones. It doesn't fit here

It has EVERYTHING to do with it. ANSWER THE QUESTION. Have you EVER been hit and knocked to the ground and just laid there and decided this is a good time to rest during a fight? Have you ever done this or seen anybody do this. it doesn't matter if they are Kryptonian.. He's TRYING TO WIN. If you're trying to win.. you don't just lay there and rest and give somebody a chance to really hurt. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard come out of your mouth.. and you've said some questionable things. You can't hide behind ohhh he's a kryptonian thus they do things different. So then you're claiming superman is the ultimate Moron and puss who would just lay down and rest in the middle of the fight? Is that your claim?

The movie was made by a human for a human audience to understand. A director doesn't need to say somebody is upset and sad in a movie when they are shown crying after their father's death. We don't go.. Ohh they aren't upset about their dad.. they are really upset about not getting enough sleep. Certain things are a given for people to understand and not have to be spoon feed. One of them is we know when we see somebody take blunt force trauma and then they are shown face down.. not moving they are KO'd. The director didn't need to go.. ohh have Faora says he's out. He's out. We know what is logical and what is common.

Let me ask you this... If in a movie you see somebody hit by a truck.. sent flying.. not moving.. face down... Would you go.. ohh he's just resting there. Of course you wouldn't. You'd say he's KO'd correct? I'm asking you in all the movies you seen.. and you seen somebody receive trauma.. not respond.. lying face down... with eyes closed... What have you most often said... he's resting or he's out.. Simple question try and answer this time

You don't know what Junior high is? Facepalm

Originally posted by Robtard
HYG: "A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important issue". You're welcome.

Remember when you tried using "clothes survive in films" as a means to show that Kryptonian battle-armor wasn't really durable but PIS. That was a good one 😂

Right.. thanks for proving my point. That is the proper use of the analogy. Owned yourself again eh Robbie.

you mean the question you avoided like the plague. I'll ask again as I love seeing you avoid the questions and squirm. Is it not a common theme for clothes to not sustain damage in movies that it would in real life? True or no?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I mean literally the weapon was a gravity weapon and wrecked two pats of the words instatly and was going to destroy the whole whole and turn it into a new world. Thats how much gravity was produced.

What is even more uber is the fact that the anti gravity Clark can produce defys the gravity weapon to change the whole planet.

Which leads directly to what we were saying yesterday that Kryptonian Superpowers>Kryptonian Tech>anything on earth.

I like you time but you literally don't know what you're talking about. I'm not being mean here I'm just saying. You think in comics Zod and company are shown in battle armor typically.. not true.. not even close to true. Then you claim that their aura is also tired to their battle armor. Again not only was this never stated in the movie but it was never stated in comics.

Now you think the world engine "wrecked two parts of the world instantly" This is close to true. I mean it couldn't be any further from the truth. The beam was literally weak sauce. A nuke destroys 100,000 x more area in one second than that beam could destroy in days at the rate it was moving. It was LITERALLY destroying small small portions of area at a time. Not the least bit impressive. BTW, in case you forgot.. Lois also seemed to defy the gravity pretty darn easily. The other engine wasn't even destroying anything.. It was changing the atmosphere. It had nothing to do with destroying. So again bud, I think you needed to understand these things.

BTW the how can you say the Breathe did nothing when it took out the MUTO like it did. They were firing tanks.. missiles.. guns everything at them and it did nothing. Did even faze them. Godzilla one shots it with it.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That was your theory.. you said it was easier to travel though something that has a greater mass and is more immoveable. That was YOUR theory. I'm pointing out that isn't always true is it Robbie?

Do I need to check quoting your video post or are you going to admit he did sink?

Nope. You still don't get it. Not sure how many ways people can explain why Zod was pushed instead of punctured through and how Godzilla's mass would work for Superman, not against him.

Please do. It just shows that you also can't prove that Superman was KO'd in the water instead of just gently chilling in the water with his eyes closed 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
I'd not downplay it like that, as it killed a gigantic monster.

But it killing or KO'ing Superman? Doubt it. It probably wouldn't even knock him back much or at all, since Superman survived orbital entry, flew against the World Engine gravity beam and resisted a Black Hole.

He very likely could fly through it, into Godzilla's mouth and out the back of 'her' skull.

It wouldn't knock him back? LMAO.. even though he was knocked back.. down.. or KO'd by less? LMAO give me a break. Supes was literally staggered a little by conventional human weapons. Now, if you say the reason why Kryptonians hit him back is because they hit harder and with more force than atomic breathe.. Then I'll test your knowledge of energy and concussive force and we'll illustrate what was still standing after these super powerful blows that MUST'VE backed all this kinetic energy.. and yet... ooh wait...

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Right.. thanks for proving my point. That is the proper use of the analogy. Owned yourself again eh Robbie.

you mean the question you avoided like the plague. I'll ask again as I love seeing you avoid the questions and squirm. Is it not a common theme for clothes to not sustain damage in movies that it would in real life? True or no?

I notice that responding with various incarnations of "I win!" seems to be your fallback when you've been proven wrong and cant properly retort.

This is all just KuRuPT Thanosi joking around and playing the part of a troll, right? He doesn't really believe any of the crap he is trying to argue, right?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It wouldn't knock him back? LMAO.. even though he was knocked back.. down.. or KO'd by less? LMAO give me a break. Supes was literally staggered a little by conventional human weapons. Now, if you say the reason why Kryptonians hit him back is because they hit harder and with more force than atomic breathe.. Then I'll test your knowledge of energy and concussive force and we'll illustrate what was still standing after these super powerful blows that MUST'VE backed all this kinetic energy.. and yet... ooh wait...

Do you even know what you're ranting about now?

Flying against the WE grav-beam and resisting a Black Hole > Atomic Breath. You won't be able to deal with this.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It has EVERYTHING to do with it. ANSWER THE QUESTION. Have you EVER been hit and knocked to the ground and just laid there and decided this is a good time to rest during a fight? Have you ever done this or seen anybody do this. it doesn't matter if they are Kryptonian.. He's TRYING TO WIN. If you're trying to win.. you don't just lay there and rest and give somebody a chance to really hurt. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard come out of your mouth.. and you've said some questionable things. You can't hide behind ohhh he's a kryptonian thus they do things different. So then you're claiming superman is the ultimate Moron and puss who would just lay down and rest in the middle of the fight? Is that your claim?

The movie was made by a human for a human audience to understand. A director doesn't need to say somebody is upset and sad in a movie when they are shown crying after their father's death. We don't go.. Ohh they aren't upset about their dad.. they are really upset about not getting enough sleep. Certain things are a given for people to understand and not have to be spoon feed. One of them is we know when we see somebody take blunt force trauma and then they are shown face down.. not moving they are KO'd. The director didn't need to go.. ohh have Faora says he's out. He's out. We know what is logical and what is common.

Let me ask you this... If in a movie you see somebody hit by a truck.. sent flying.. not moving.. face down... Would you go.. ohh he's just resting there. Of course you wouldn't. You'd say he's KO'd correct? I'm asking you in all the movies you seen.. and you seen somebody receive trauma.. not respond.. lying face down... with eyes closed... What have you most often said... he's resting or he's out.. Simple question try and answer this time

You don't know what Junior high is? Facepalm

So if I give you an example of someone getting knocked down in a fight and not getting right back up, laying down for awhile, without being KO'd will you drop this sillyness.

Junior High age usually ranges between 11 and 14. Sometimes an extra years in either direction. So teenager is the age group. God you just can't admit when you are being foolish can you? Shall i provide a link too?

Originally posted by Robtard
Nope. You still don't get it. Not sure how many ways people can explain why Zod was pushed instead of punctured through and how Godzilla's mass would work for Superman, not against him.

Please do. It just shows that you also can't prove that Superman was KO'd in the water instead of just gently chilling in the water with his eyes closed 👆

Wrong again.. You said they can travel further though heavier more immovable objects and that would work against Godzilla. Not true, as my bear example illustrates.. the bullet would stop in a bear well before it would stop in a dog shooting them both in the same spot. Same thing here.. Godzilla hid is incredible durable. It survived getting hit with a nuke and it apparently did nothing to him. Got hit my countless things and wasn't damage or they didn't go through him. Considering we've seen superman KO'd by much less... I think it's just as safe to assume he'd KO himself as he'd go right through him.

No, you said he didn't sink... whether he was KO'd or not.. a 8 year old would say he was knocked out. That has already been decided by common sense. What I'm asking about is you saying he didn't sink and posted a video to show he didn't.. only it showed him sinking LMAO. Only Robbie can own himself like that.

Originally posted by Robtard
How many times are you going to try this dishonesty? It failed you before and it fails you now. There's no real proof Kal was KO'd in that scene. He was floating (not sinking) in the water and relaxing by all looks of it, cos he was likely hot and tired from exerting himself.

We even see him open his eyes after a few moments (about 11 seconds).

YouTube video

Stop being a lying downplaying loser, will ya. My fist is getting nasty from plunging in and out of your anus all day.

Look at how good Robbie is at this... Look guys he's not sinking and here's the video to prove... Ohhh wait.. He didn't sink... Duh!!! Only Robbie can own himself like that bwahahahah

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wrong again.. You said they can travel further though heavier more immovable objects and that would work against Godzilla. Not true, as my bear example illustrates.. the bullet would stop in a bear well before it would stop in a dog shooting them both in the same spot. Same thing here.. Godzilla hid is incredible durable. It survived getting hit with a nuke and it apparently did nothing to him. Got hit my countless things and wasn't damage or they didn't go through him. Considering we've seen superman KO'd by much less... I think it's just as safe to assume he'd KO himself as he'd go right through him.

No, you said he didn't sink... whether he was KO'd or not.. a 8 year old would say he was knocked out. That has already been decided by common sense. What I'm asking about is you saying he didn't sink and posted a video to show he didn't.. only it showed him sinking LMAO. Only Robbie can own himself like that.

Nope. Still don't get it. Basic Science > You

So you're saying you have the reasoning capabilities of an "8 year old" 😂

Tell me, have you ever relaxed underwater with your eyes closed letting the current gently take you? That's what Kal was doing. Prove me wrong. Try.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I like you time but you literally don't know what you're talking about. I'm not being mean here I'm just saying. You think in comics Zod and company are shown in battle armor typically.. not true.. not even close to true. Then you claim that their aura is also tired to their battle armor. Again not only was this never stated in the movie but it was never stated in comics.

Now you think the world engine "wrecked two parts of the world instantly" This is close to true. I mean it couldn't be any further from the truth. The beam was literally weak sauce. A nuke destroys 100,000 x more area in one second than that beam could destroy in days at the rate it was moving. It was LITERALLY destroying small small portions of area at a time. Not the least bit impressive. BTW, in case you forgot.. Lois also seemed to defy the gravity pretty darn easily. The other engine wasn't even destroying anything.. It was changing the atmosphere. It had nothing to do with destroying. So again bud, I think you needed to understand these things.

BTW the how can you say the Breathe did nothing when it took out the MUTO like it did. They were firing tanks.. missiles.. guns everything at them and it did nothing. Did even faze them. Godzilla one shots it with it.

It was stated in comics and shown in comics, and shown in the movie..

Invulnerability
Immunity to almost all forms of harm and ailments, including extreme force and extremely high temperatures. Effectiveness has ranged from nothing less than a "bursting shell" being able to pierce his skin (in the beginning of the mythos) to being completely unharmed by a star going supernova. Explanations for this ability have ranged from Kryptonians having a molecular structure with a density superior to that of titanium and emitting an unbreakable aura of solar energy. His invulnerability has enabled him to withstand Darkseid's omega beams, a feat originally thought to be impossible. In the rare instances, however, that Superman has required medical attention, this resistance to injuries has complicated necessary procedures such as surgery. For instance, when a criminal shot him with a kryptonite bullet, a surgeon was forced to give Superman a controlled exposure to the mineral, thereby temporarily weakening his skin enough to make the incisions necessary to remove internal fragments of the bullet.[8] Superman can also withstand kryptonite in certain circumstances, such as lifting an island made of kryptonite and tossing it into space in Superman Returns. Superman's invulnerability is further increased by his bio-electric aura, which protects him from some attacks and can be extended to protect others like in All Star Superman. In some versions, this power greatly retards his aging and increases as he gets older, sometimes rendering him effectively immortal. The epilogue to the Justice Society of America storyline "Thy Kingdom Come" (a sequel of sorts to the Kingdom Come limited series) showing Superman surviving 1,000 years into the future, albeit as a very elderly, hunched-over man. Another version in DC One Million lives through the 853rd Century, some 83,200 years from now, though he was living inside the sun for thousands of years before coming out, making him godlike in his abilities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_and_abilities_of_Superman

Moving on now that that aura is a fact.

Godzilla's breath nuked a city now?

Originally posted by Robtard
Do you even know what you're ranting about now?

Flying against the WE grav-beam and resisting a Black Hole > Atomic Breath. You won't be able to deal with this.

You said atomic breathe would likely not move him. When conventional human weapons moved him. Kryptonian punches sent him flying. A shot fired from a ship sent him flying. Yet, something more powerful wouldn't move him? LMAO only Robbie would say that. Now, please say you believe the Kryptonian punches deliver more of a punch with it's kinetic energy than atomic breathe.. Please.. I'm going to love this. First clue, how was the environment effected by all this kinetic energy being released... LOL

Avoided again, is it not a common theme for clothes to not be damage in movies when they normally would in real life?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You said atomic breathe would likely not move him. When conventional human weapons moved him. Kryptonian punches sent him flying. A shot fired from a ship sent him flying. Yet, something more powerful wouldn't move him? LMAO only Robbie would say that. Now, please say you believe the Kryptonian punches deliver more of a punch with it's kinetic energy than atomic breathe.. Please.. I'm going to love this. First clue, how was the environment effected by all this kinetic energy being released... LOL

Avoided again, is it not a common theme for clothes to not be damage in movies when they normally would in real life?

Originally posted by Robtard
Do you even know what you're ranting about now?

Flying against the WE grav-beam and resisting a Black Hole > Atomic Breath. You won't be able to deal with this.

"Alien Battle Armor" =/= clothes

Originally posted by Robtard
HYG: Invulnerable: 'incapable of being wounded, injured, or harmed' You're welcome.

This is because you're a silly person who thinks Godzilla's hide (which we've seen damaged in his fight with the Mutos) would put more strain on Superman's body when punching through than say The World Engine Beam or the Black Hole did.

Be truthful, do you honestly not understand or are you so entrenched/arrogant into defending an indefensible position that you can't just say "Alright, I was incorrect. Superman would win here"?

Another Gem and ownage of Robbie. Superman is invulnerable... I go you don't know what that means to say that. he posts the definition that owns himself. Superman clearly was capable of being injured and harmed. I love when Robbie posts stuff to correct himself. Damn you're bad at this.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Godzilla Atomic Breath.
YouTube video

vs

World Engine.

YouTube video

Two feats compared. WE outclasses it..

It was wrecking the city and planet, Atomic breath didn't do much of anything to anyone.

Comparing these two, how is WE weaksauce? What did Atomic breath do more impressive then the WE?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Another Gem and ownage of Robbie. Superman is invulnerable... I go you don't know what that means to say that. he posts the definition that owns himself. Superman clearly was capable of being injured and harmed. I love when Robbie posts stuff to correct himself. Damn you're bad at this.

Show me one scene of Superman being "injured".