Superman (Man of Steel) vs Godzilla (2014)

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
A plane is the worst example, because planes are really great at flying but fall apart at an extremely rapid rate, literally they disintegrate when they crash like in the twin towers, or like the recent plane crash in France. Kal is made out of dense DNA super powered by the sun.

You cannot compare a plane to Superman.

As show, plane, vs Superman. This plane starts to literally fall apart, and it didn't even hit anything. He had to save the plane by slow applied force to keep it from falling apart.

Cmon man..

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It doesn't matter if it breaks apart.. It completely destroys the house and travels right through it. It hits a bigger object with more mass and immovable.. it doesn't even make it through it. What is so hard to understand about that. Superman could just as easily KO himself trying to tactic considering how easy he was KO'd in the movies. To even assume he'll bust right through him is ridiculous. You act like bullets being smaller and sharp just pass right through people.. Most times they don't.. they get caught up in bones.. completely shatter while hitting stuff inside the body. High caliber missiles and high caliber gun fire from tanks and planes did NOTHING to him. We don't see so much as a scratch on him from those. He took shots from Muto's with infinitely more mass and weight behind their blows and it doesn't bust right through him. Again you didn't address my bear vs. dog analogy. Does a bullet travel further through a dog or a bear?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you don't know what invulnerable means then... We've seen him KO'd numerous times in the movies. Clearly he wasn't totally invulnerable or he wouldn't have been KO'd like a feeb numerous times. So, that is a leap on your part.

It wasn't covered as I could list 100's of example of bigger things being more durable than smaller things. I mean literally 1000's. IMO superman Is just as likely to be KO'd by ramming into Godzilla than to bust through him considering what has KO'd him.

HYG: Invulnerable: 'incapable of being wounded, injured, or harmed' You're welcome.

This is because you're a silly person who thinks Godzilla's hide (which we've seen damaged in his fight with the Mutos) would put more strain on Superman's body when punching through than say The World Engine Beam or the Black Hole did.

Be truthful, do you honestly not understand or are you so entrenched/arrogant into defending an indefensible position that you can't just say "Alright, I was incorrect. Superman would win here"?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It doesn't matter if it breaks apart.. It completely destroys the house and travels right through it. It hits a bigger object with more mass and immovable.. it doesn't even make it through it. What is so hard to understand about that. Superman could just as easily KO himself trying to tactic considering how easy he was KO'd in the movies. To even assume he'll bust right through him is ridiculous. You act like bullets being smaller and sharp just pass right through people.. Most times they don't.. they get caught up in bones.. completely shatter while hitting stuff inside the body. High caliber missiles and high caliber gun fire from tanks and planes did NOTHING to him. We don't see so much as a scratch on him from those. He took shots from Muto's with infinitely more mass and weight behind their blows and it doesn't bust right through him. Again you didn't address my bear vs. dog analogy. Does a bullet travel further through a dog or a bear?

Godzilla was being hurt by tank bullets, now how on earth can Kal not be able to punch a hole though him flying at full speed. His anti gravity defys laws of physics, he will punch a hole though and keep going once on that path.

A plane is a large flying and extremely fragile china dish.

Returns punched a hole in the planet using the same anti gravity. He didnt push the planet, when he moved slower he lifted the island, its really that simple.

You cant compare a plane to Superman..it wont work. A plane breaks apart upon impact, Superman does not.

Originally posted by juggerman
So you admit you were wrong? Good glad we can move past it.

Split second close of eyes means "KO"? Got thanks fr the help 😂

Who the hell was hit by a boat? Stay on topic please. This is about Supeman, not some random dude that got boat hit for some reason

First is was an 8 years old, now a teen? Guess you realize your sillyness is getting harder to follow

You still didn't answer have you ever been hit in a fight and knocked down and decided.. ya know.. this is a good time to relax and just layed there face down on the ground? have you ever seen someone do that? The answer is obviously no, and why you KEEP AVOIDING the question. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN in a fight. If you can get up and keep fighting you will. You don't just lay there face down and not move when really you're just fine but wanted a nap. I never said a teenager WUT?? I've always said a junior high kid or an 8 year old. Point me to where I said teenager. I'd like a quote on that.

The boat analogy is perfect. I'm saying if I don't see somebody hit or hurt and I just seem them floating there with their eyes closed I STILL might make sure they are okay but I have no reason to believe they are hurt as I saw no trauma. HOWEVER, if I see somebody hit and go through trauma and come up to them eyes closed.. sinking.. not moving.. I wouldn't go ohh they're just relaxing. Same thing here.. We SEE.. we LITERALLY SEE Superman go through Trauma.. and then we see him floating there not moving.. sinking... eyes closed. Yet you wanna go... ohhh he was just relaxing.. WTF. That is how the boat analogy comes into play. You're throwing common sense and a clear presentation of the movie out the door. I'm serious a kid would look at that scene and know superman was hurt. So, would you come up to somebody you've just seen go through trauma and is not moving.. eyes closed and go.. Ohh they're just relaxing and walk away? Do you understand now how silly that sounds?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Godzilla was being hurt by tank bullets, now how on earth can Kal not be able to punch a hole though him flying at full speed. His anti gravity defys laws of physics, he will punch a hole though and keep going once on that path.

A plane is a large flying and extremely fragile china dish.

Returns punched a hole in the planet using the same anti gravity. He didnt push the planet, when he moved slower he lifted the island, its really that simple.

You cant compare a plane to Superman..it wont work. A plane breaks apart upon impact, Superman does not.

again you didn't answer... Does a bullet travel further through a bear or a dog?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
again you didn't answer... Does a bullet travel further through a bear or a dog?

Major factors to consider. Depends on where it hits. If it hits bone it stops or is deflected, if it hits flesh it goes in. Usually when you shoot a bear you are going for the lungs, so it goes in and thats it.

But you cant compare human technology to a kryptonian.

Use all the planes, bullets and building analogies but it still does not compare. Krptonians defy our physics.

Originally posted by Robtard
HYG: Invulnerable: 'incapable of being wounded, injured, or harmed' You're welcome.

This is because you're a silly person who thinks Godzilla's hide (which we've seen damaged in his fight with the Mutos) would put more strain on Superman's body when punching through than say The World Engine Beam or the Black Hole did.

Be truthful, do you honestly not understand or are you so entrenched/arrogant into defending an indefensible position that you can't just say "Alright, I was incorrect. Superman would win here"?

So you posted that definition to own yourself again? He was unquestionably harmed and injured in the movie. Numerous times even. Thanks for proving my point that you don't know what the word means and how to apply it.

I honestly never even gave an opinion on who would win. If you'll notice and I believe I'm correct on this as I haven't gone back through the whole thread. I entered the discussion to combat the bs I was hearing. First how Atomic Breathe wouldn't hurt superman.. and thus I had to list examples of superman being KO'd to combat that theory. As you can see that has spawned pages and pages of debate on those. Then I had to combat this theory that he'd just ram him like a missile and it would work. I'm not convinced it would work. Could it, it's possible, but that isn't a given at all considering what has KO'd him and what Godzilla's hide is incredibly strong. So we've spent pages after pages discussing that. I don't ever recall saying who would actually win here.

Now it's your turn.. Did superman sink at all in that scene?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Major factors to consider. Depends on where it hits. If it hits bone it stops or is deflected, if it hits flesh it goes in. Usually when you shoot a bear you are going for the lungs, so it goes in and thats it.

But you cant compare human technology to a kryptonian.

Use all the planes, bullets and building analogies but it still does not compare. Krptonians defy our physics.

Laugh at his silly Red Herrings and just point out that he sodomized his own stance again, because a bullet would penetrate both a dog and a bear, regardless if it stops at different points once penetration has occurred

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you think it's just as easy to hit a wall as it is to hit something who is actively fighting back.. thinking and wants to win and live. You think those two are the same things? It doesn't matter if Godzilla is slow... he's still living.. he's still able to fight back... he's still trying and wants to live.. he's still able to think and counter. These UNQUESTIONABLY and INDISPUTABLY make it vastly different than hitting a wall or a plane. I never claimed Godzilla could or would hit superman with Atomic breathe. never said so. I've only stated that if he did superman would be crushed and put down considering he was put down by much much less. That is all I've claimed in that regard. Me making the point that hiting a ship or a non living object isn't the same as doing so to something living and thinking and fighting back. It doesn't matter if Godzilla is slow or wouldn't hit Kal.. all that does matter is my statement is 100% factual. it's harder to do so. Period. Do you disagree?

Godzilla Atomic Breath.
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World Engine.

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Two feats compared. WE outclasses it..

It was wrecking the city and planet, Atomic breath didn't do much of anything to anyone.

Originally posted by Robtard
Laugh at his silly Red Herrings and just point out that he sodomized his own stance again, because a bullet would penetrate both a dog and a bear, regardless if it stops at different points once penetration has occurred

Wrong again, because it crushes your stance.. like the building analogy does. Just because you have more mass.. more weight.. more immovable doesn't mean smaller sharp objects pass easier than smaller objects. That was your stance and these analogies crush that stance. It DOES matter how far it travels through since you said it's easier with bigger objects. Only it's not is it Robbie.

Originally posted by Robtard
Laugh at his silly Red Herrings and just point out that he sodomized his own stance again, because a bullet would penetrate both a dog and a bear, regardless if it stops at different points once penetration has occurred

I literally don't even think you know what a red herring is... I've seen you use that numerous times but the wrong way. It's funny but makes you look even dumber Robbie.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you posted that definition to own yourself again? He was unquestionably harmed and injured in the movie. Numerous times even. Thanks for proving my point that you don't know what the word means and how to apply it.

I honestly never even gave an opinion on who would win. If you'll notice and I believe I'm correct on this as I haven't gone back through the whole thread. I entered the discussion to combat the bs I was hearing. First how Atomic Breathe wouldn't hurt superman.. and thus I had to list examples of superman being KO'd to combat that theory. As you can see that has spawned pages and pages of debate on those. Then I had to combat this theory that he'd just ram him like a missile and it would work. I'm not convinced it would work. Could it, it's possible, but that isn't a given at all considering what has KO'd him and what Godzilla's hide is incredibly strong. So we've spent pages after pages discussing that. I don't ever recall saying who would actually win here.

Now it's your turn.. Did superman sink at all in that scene?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Godzilla Atomic Breath.
YouTube video

vs

World Engine.

YouTube video

Two feats compared. WE outclasses it..

It was wrecking the city and planet, Atomic breath didn't do much of anything to anyone.

How does Atomic breath Hurt him when the WE didnt do anything to him..

Watch the videos, Atomic breath is weaksauce.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wrong again, because it crushes your stance.. like the building analogy does. Just because you have more mass.. more weight.. more immovable doesn't mean smaller sharp objects pass easier than smaller objects. That was your stance and these analogies crush that stance. It DOES matter how far it travels through since you said it's easier with bigger objects. Only it's not is it Robbie.

Incorrect and you still don't understand it seems.

What is "doesn't mean smaller sharp objects pass easier than smaller objects" supposed to mean when we're talking about Superman using his body as a missile. Do you even know what you're ranting about.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You still didn't answer have you ever been hit in a fight and knocked down and decided.. ya know.. this is a good time to relax and just layed there face down on the ground? have you ever seen someone do that? The answer is obviously no, and why you KEEP AVOIDING the question. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN in a fight. If you can get up and keep fighting you will. You don't just lay there face down and not move when really you're just fine but wanted a nap. I never said a teenager WUT?? I've always said a junior high kid or an 8 year old. Point me to where I said teenager. I'd like a quote on that.

The boat analogy is perfect. I'm saying if I don't see somebody hit or hurt and I just seem them floating there with their eyes closed I STILL might make sure they are okay but I have no reason to believe they are hurt as I saw no trauma. HOWEVER, if I see somebody hit and go through trauma and come up to them eyes closed.. sinking.. not moving.. I wouldn't go ohh they're just relaxing. Same thing here.. We SEE.. we LITERALLY SEE Superman go through Trauma.. and then we see him floating there not moving.. sinking... eyes closed. Yet you wanna go... ohhh he was just relaxing.. WTF. That is how the boat analogy comes into play. You're throwing common sense and a clear presentation of the movie out the door. I'm serious a kid would look at that scene and know superman was hurt. So, would you come up to somebody you've just seen go through trauma and is not moving.. eyes closed and go.. Ohh they're just relaxing and walk away? Do you understand now how silly that sounds?

I've also never been tossed thru a wall in IHOP. WHat has happened to be in fights has no relevence here. You made a claim and got all butt hurt when you couldn't back it up. Just do better next time.

What age are people in Middle School? Gimme a range please and then look back at how dumb you are being.

That's well and good for NORMAL HUMANS. We are talking about an alien race that are well beyond what we are capable of. Meaning your boat story is dumb as hell. How about this one: You see a 7 foot man get shot by bullets fired out of a chopper. The man is sent flying. HE's dead right? RIGHT? IOW stop trying to compare human reactions with alien ones. It doesn't fit here

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I literally don't even think you know what a red herring is... I've seen you use that numerous times but the wrong way. It's funny but makes you look even dumber Robbie.

HYG: "A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important issue". You're welcome.

Remember when you tried using "clothes survive in films" as a means to show that Kryptonian battle-armor wasn't really durable but PIS. That was a good one 😂

Rob watch those two vids, lend some insight on what was so great about the atomic breath. It literally didn't do anything.

I mean literally the weapon was a gravity weapon and wrecked two pats of the words instatly and was going to destroy the whole whole and turn it into a new world. Thats how much gravity was produced.

What is even more uber is the fact that the anti gravity Clark can produce defys the gravity weapon to change the whole planet.

Which leads directly to what we were saying yesterday that Kryptonian Superpowers>Kryptonian Tech>anything on earth.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Rob watch those two vids, lend some insight on what was so great about the atomic breath. It literally didn't do anything.

I'd not downplay it like that, as it killed a gigantic monster.

But it killing or KO'ing Superman? Doubt it. It probably wouldn't even knock him back much or at all, since Superman survived orbital entry, flew against the World Engine gravity beam and resisted a Black Hole.

He very likely could fly through it, into Godzilla's mouth and out the back of 'her' skull.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'd not downplay it like that, as it killed a gigantic monster.

But it killing or KO'ing Superman? Doubt it. It probably wouldn't even knock him back much or at all, since Superman survived orbital entry, flew against the World Engine gravity beam and resisted a Black Hole.

He very likely could fly through it, into Godzilla's mouth and out the back of 'her' skull.

Im more talking about the collateral damage. Which shows the difference in power of the weapons. Also didn't it kill one of them him till after he pushed it down his mouth right? Which proves that if Kal got inside they die.