Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Sidious isn't the one being fought here. So again, what does Talzin have, with prep, that could stop Vitiate with prep? How is Talzin's prep superior to Vitiate's? If it's not, then I stand by what I implied earlier.
>Nearly killing Dooku from halfway across the galaxy.
>Amping Savage to a powerhouse
>Resurrecting Maul
>Conducting a ritual that would have and I quote "made her more powerful than the Jedi and the Sith combined".
These rival Vitiate.
I don't see how Talzin takes this. Attacking with dark side sorcery and magic might be the worst way to approach Vitiate. Vitiate's lightning is possibly the strongest sith lightning out there and I don't see how Talzin can defend and then retaliate against his mental domination, lightning and endless force maneuvers and tricks that would constantly keep her defensive.
Vitiate's one-shoting the strongest jedi strike team in SWTOR is above anything Talzin ever achieved.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Wait, we're arguing that the god of prep can't kill some witch who's lost on almost every occasion with prep, when he has prep? To Jar-Jar?
No, we're arguing that the woman who could have killed Dooku from across the galaxy, if she didn't want him to suffer first, could prepare more devastating attacks on her damn homeworld than Vitiate can.
Noting of course that his Solo of the Dark Council was on a Dark Side nexus, which apparently (according to you guys) doesn't exist on Dathomir.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Noting that the [b]Dark Council most likely benefits from a Dark Side nexus. Just a thought. Saying that a Sith killed over two dozen other Sith in a flash doesn't matter because it's a nexus really isn't true. [/B]
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Are you saying that a random Sith acolyte could Draw on a Nexus the same amount a Dark Council member could? The amount you get on a Nexus is limited only by the amount you can control... which again, would be easier with prep.
Book of Sith ftw by the way.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I didn't say that Sidious has the best prepped feat. What I'm saying is that if Sidious without prep trumps Vitiate with prep and Sidious at the very least rivals Vitiate in all the things that factor into prep (knowledge, intelligence, resources, etc.), then it is reasonable to conclude that Sidious may very well be Vitiate's better in that aspect as well.Kinda like how Vitiate has no speed feats to speak of, right? So if we followed the "lolz feats only" paradigm, a convincing case could be made that Sidious would give Viti the Agen Kolar treatment. But that's silly, right? So we infer, based on Viti's considerable strength in the Force and mastery of it, that he's powerful enough to be effectively non-blitzable and would, if necessary, be capable of impressive speed feats.
Didnt the Revan novel say Revan thought Vitiate wasn't a master of the blade due to never having viewed it as a useful weapon?
Originally posted by Selenial
😱Are you saying that a random Sith acolyte could Draw on a Nexus the same amount a Dark Council member could? The amount you get on a Nexus is limited only by the amount you can control... which again, would be easier with prep.
Book of Sith ftw by the way.
Originally posted by Selenial
Prep on a Nexus.Without Prep, his Lightning didn't even phase the Hero of Tython.
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1) One-shoting the strike team of the strongest jedi of that era at the space station should tell you what he can do with his lightning absent prep or nexus.
2) He was weakened when he faced HoT. Also HoT is superior to Meetra in every way so I wouldn't lowball him. 🙂
Originally posted by Sinious
😆1) One-shoting the strike team of the strongest jedi of that era at the space station should tell you what he can do with his lightning absent prep or nexus.
2) He was weakened when he faced HoT. Also HoT is superior to Meetra in every way so I wouldn't lowball him. 🙂
1) He was above Dromund Kaas, and had more than ample time to prepare. You do realise he knew they were coming for quite some time, and had the time to gather his power as the Hero of Tython fought the Wrath? Sure, it'd take him a few seconds to build up that kind of power, but you wouldn't Have a few seconds in a duel.
2) You people really cherry pick when you want to use arguments, and it pisses me off. First you all say Vitiate had ample time to recover as much as he would need to before facing the HOT as a source for the HOT being powerful, and now that that might be detrimental you decide to change tones?
How about instead we use the argument that the HOT was weaker because she decided to fight through hordes of extra sith to face her love interest, was weak because she was in the Dark Temple and weakened because she'd just fought through hundreds of Sith or Imperial guard?
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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Are you comparing over two dozen people, all of whom are the strongest in the Empire, to a random Sith Acolyte? It's the freaking Dark Council. I think they know how to use a nexus to amp themselves.
Two dozen?
Wut? 😮💨
And why would they? For all they knew they were in a normal Dark Council meeting, completely unprepared to be annihilated by the Emperor.
Originally posted by Selenial
Two dozen?Wut? 😮💨
And why would they? For all they knew they were in a normal Dark Council meeting, completely unprepared to be annihilated by the Emperor.