Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Black Bolt survived point blank an explosion that ripped a parsecs wide hole in space and opened up the universe to the Cancerverse War...You want to put Superman benching the planet into his blitz and strength, have fun with what Black Bolt took. 🙂
Yeah, but Blackbolt can't take thousands of hits from Superman, all in the blink of an eye. Hell, the guy sure was feeling Gladiators punches..and Nu Supes is definitely as strong as Gladiator.
Originally posted by SurturCan you tell me the source of information where you got Nu Superman throwing 1000 punches in the blink of an eye?
Yeah, but Blackbolt can't take thousands of hits from Superman, all in the blink of an eye. Hell, the guy sure was feeling Gladiators punches..and Nu Supes is definitely as strong as Gladiator.
And Gladiator is definitely as fast as Superman. Not sure how using him as proof is hurting Black Bolt's case when he was having an actual fight with him without using his voice. And not getting knocked out in the blink of an eye.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Can you tell me the source of information where you got Nu Superman throwing 1000 punches in the blink of an eye?
Because his speed is lightspeed or very near it? You know how many punches one could throw with that type of speed?
And Gladiator is definitely as fast as Superman. Not sure how using him as proof is hurting Black Bolt's case when he was having an actual fight with him without using his voice. And not getting knocked out in the blink of an eye.
You aren't getting me. Blackbolt wasn't just shrugging off or being totally unphased by Gladiators blows. Nu Supes is just as strong as Gladiator. So it's not like NuSupes can't hurt him.
Black Bolt has been KTFO by much less than Gladiator's strength. Hell, fighting Namor nearly took him to the brink of collapse.
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He isn't fighting Superman h2h and remain conscious for long.
Originally posted by SurturSo, you have scans of Nu Superman throwing 1000 punches in the blink of an eye or should I go around saying Silver Surfer throws 1000 punches in the blink of an eye?
Because his speed is lightspeed or very near it? You know how many punches one could throw with that type of speed?You aren't getting me. Blackbolt wasn't just shrugging off or being totally unphased by Gladiators blows. Nu Supes is just as strong as Gladiator. So it's not like NuSupes can't hurt him.
Good, and Gladiator is just as fast as Nu Superman, and he didn't scrape Black Bolt off his floor in the blink of an eye. In fact, Black Bolt was winning...
Pretending Superman can instantly defeat characters who have never been blitzed in eye blinks is screwy. And it's not like BB is without his wiles.
And I never said Superman can't hurt him either. I said he's not beating Black Bolt in an eye blink or before Black Bolt could do anything.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
blackbolt wasn't even giving it his all lmaonice try, though.
this fight is more competitive for superman than abhil is willing to admit so "low" feats are in order. again
But everything is low showing for you.
Originally posted by abhilegendyou try hard but at the same time not enough. it's very hard to understand
What? He was about to deliver his master blow and Black Bolt fighting Namor to a draw is no low showing. In fact he has several slugfests with Thing resulting in a draw. Its where he is on average in strength.But everything is low showing for you.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What? He was about to deliver his master blow and Black Bolt fighting Namor to a draw is no low showing. In fact he has several slugfests with Thing resulting in a draw. Its where he is on average in strength.But everything is low showing for you.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Beating Sphinx without ka stones means what exactly?
How did you come to the conclusion that he doesn't possess the Ka stone in that instance? It's right there on his forehead where it's always been. Sphinx literally mentions that he's possessing the power of Ka stone one page prior to that scan:
http://i.imgur.com/EgKk25P.jpg
Although it should be noted that in that time period the Ka Stone wasn't that uber-powerful, it (and subsequently, Sphinx) had no significant feats such as the ones that came later in New Warriors v1 where it warped reality. And Sphinx never even wanted the Ka stone since he didn't want to be immortal.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So, you have scans of Nu Superman throwing 1000 punches in the blink of an eye or should I go around saying Silver Surfer throws 1000 punches in the blink of an eye?
Although, you've already answered me that you're not using proof to form your opinions.
Umm, no, why is this so hard to get? The dude has shown he has lightspeed reflexes, he can move and react at those speeds. He doesn't need a specific feat of throwing 1,000 punches. We can extrapolate from other feats, it's a neat thing we can do. Superman has never picked up a car and thrown it into space, but guess what? He totally can, and why? Going by his other feats, he should be capable of it. Why? He can hold the weight of a planet, and cars weigh less then planets. See what I did there? No on panel feat and yet..we can use other feats to come to that conclusion. Crazy, right?
Good, and Gladiator is just as fast as Nu Superman, and he didn't scrape Black Bolt off his floor in the blink of an eye. In fact, Black Bolt was winning...
Pretending Superman can instantly defeat characters who have never been blitzed in eye blinks is screwy. And it's not like BB is without his wiles.And I never said Superman can't hurt him either. I said he's not beating Black Bolt in an eye blink or before Black Bolt could do anything.
Sorry, but no, Black Bolt was feeling the hits. He won't be surviving a blitz, sorry if you can't accept that.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
blackbolt wasn't even giving it his all lmaonice try, though.
this fight is more competitive for superman than abhil is willing to admit so "low" feats are in order. again
Blackbolt not trying doesn't magically lower his durability, why in gods name would you ever think it would?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Guess we are just ignoring this, huh?
Nope, but it's not a part of Supes personality to not use speed, I'm unsure why grasping this concept is so difficult for people. In character, he has no issues against speed. PIS is where the issues come in. To say he won't speedblitz is basically just an attempt to handicap the character..to which then what is the point? What is the point if you have to specifically go out of your way to handicap the guy? To the point where you ignore that his personality has nothing to do with not using speed. He is anti-killing, not anti- super speed.
Originally posted by Surtur
Blackbolt not trying doesn't magically lower his durability, why in gods name would you ever think it would?Nope, but it's not a part of Supes personality to not use speed, I'm unsure why grasping this concept is so difficult for people. In character, he has no issues against speed. PIS is where the issues come in. To say he won't speedblitz is basically just an attempt to handicap the character..to which then what is the point? What is the point if you have to specifically go out of your way to handicap the guy? To the point where you ignore that his personality has nothing to do with not using speed. He is anti-killing, not anti- super speed.
How fast will he be fighting and provide a scan showing him doing this?
Originally posted by Surtur
Blackbolt not trying doesn't magically lower his durability, why in gods name would you ever think it would?Nope, but it's not a part of Supes personality to not use speed, I'm unsure why grasping this concept is so difficult for people. In character, he has no issues against speed. PIS is where the issues come in. To say he won't speedblitz is basically just an attempt to handicap the character..to which then what is the point? What is the point if you have to specifically go out of your way to handicap the guy? To the point where you ignore that his personality has nothing to do with not using speed. He is anti-killing, not anti- super speed.
True he's not anti speed....but he DOES probe his enemy until he's sure he doesn't need to pull his punches. I'm sure you know Supes well, and you've seen countless times where he goes wow...I felt that....guess I don't need to hold back etc etc.
Originally posted by carver9
How fast will he be fighting and provide a scan showing him doing this?
There is no scan that says "he is fighting at lightspeed". It doesn't mean he can't, since he can move at such speeds, we extrapolate what he can do based on other feats.
If you have a problem with that, DCnU Superman is now incapable of throwing a car into space. After all, I have no scans of him doing it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True he's not anti speed....but he DOES probe his enemy until he's sure he doesn't need to pull his punches. I'm sure you know Supes well, and you've seen countless times where he goes wow...I felt that....guess I don't need to hold back etc etc.
Yeah, but basic knowledge means he won't not use his speed..and he isn't always not using speed because he isn't sure if he needs to pull his punches. He's used it enough times to say he'd use it if going to full capacity. Saying he won't is essentially handicapping him merely to give the other team a shot. What then is the point? Okay, so Blackbolt can totally beat a Superman fighting like a moron.
Or hell, let's be generous and say the guy only throws 100 punches before Blackbolt reacts. The guy still isn't durable enough to tank 100 punches from a guy who bench press the planet.
But anyways, what is the point in putting Superman in any fights here if people are going to constantly try to lowball or handicap him? It's weird to me that Superman fights have him being lowballed, while his opponents are being grossly overestimated(Black bolt here, Loki in the other thread..and I'm sure I could find more if I bothered to look).
Is this a thing people have against Superman or is it just characters with high end super speed in general?
