Originally posted by cdtm
I don't know, Nu Superman sure didn't hesitate to choke the hell out of Batman or blindside Captain Marvel...I don't really keep up with Nu 52, but from the little I've seen, he's ridiculously more aggressive now.
Pretty much what DS said. He is more aggressive to a point, but he's still Superman.
Either way, it doesn't matter. All that matters is that Superman has super-speed that he can utilise. How much he utilises it and how soon he does is a question that people don't agree on the answer to, but I don't see it having that much of an impact on the fight either way.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Pretty much what DS said. He is more aggressive to a point, but he's still Superman.Either way, it doesn't matter. All that matters is that Superman has super-speed that he can utilise. How much he utilises it and how soon he does is a question that people don't agree on the answer to, but I don't see it having that much of an impact on the fight either way.
Exactly, I don't even know why I was bothering arguing the lightspeed thing, as he doesn't need to be that fast to hit Blackbolt enough times to KO him before he reacts. Gladiator has done it, and done it with less then 50 punches. Nu Superman can do it too.
Originally posted by Surtur
Exactly, I don't even know why I was bothering arguing the lightspeed thing, as he doesn't need to be that fast to hit Blackbolt enough times to KO him before he reacts. Gladiator has done it, and done it with less then 50 punches. Nu Superman can do it too.
When has gladiator koed Black Bolt before he can react? I've been out of the cosmic loop for a while, but all the old fights were them actually fighting not him being casually knocked out.
Originally posted by operator616
How did you come to the conclusion that he doesn't possess the Ka stone in that instance? It's right there on his forehead where it's always been. Sphinx literally mentions that he's possessing the power of Ka stone one page prior to that scan:http://i.imgur.com/EgKk25P.jpg
Although it should be noted that in that time period the Ka Stone wasn't that uber-powerful, it (and subsequently, Sphinx) had no significant feats such as the ones that came later in New Warriors v1 where it warped reality. And Sphinx never even wanted the Ka stone since he didn't want to be immortal.
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Originally posted by psycho gundamBlack Bolt one shotted Namor before. Into a dam of water...
his electron control can boost his stats. namor isn't weak but blackbolt can beat him if he feels like it
He also made Karnak look like a slow fool twice in the same issue. Though his voice was written like shit. But meh, he thought he was a kid
Also Sphinx thought he was completely invincible before he fought BB, though obviously not on the level he was when he faced Galactus (no Worldmind amp), he was still on his usual level which was high end shit.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Now that's solved, explain why you think Black Bolt's average is Thing level?
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Black Bolt one shotted Namor before. Into a dam of water...He also made Karnak look like a slow fool twice in the same issue. Though his voice was written like shit. But meh, he thought he was a kid
Also Sphinx thought he was completely invincible before he fought BB, though obviously not on the level he was when he faced Galactus (no Worldmind amp), he was still on his usual level which was high end shit.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because that's where his average is. Duh. But seriously, Thing has stalemated him in a slugfest several times including FF 46, FF 411 and Thing 7. I can post the scans if you want.The funny thing is, Thing stalemated him in the very same issue.
Even then, just because Ben seems to do ok against him he is automatically thing level. We just discredit all his other showings with the likes of Hulk, Thor, Gladiator, and the like...?
I guess SBP is Superboy level since he always seems to do well against him.. Amirite?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
FF 46 yes. FF 411 he was fending off multiple people which included Namor who he one shorted. Can't really call it a stalemate when after getting hit by one of Ben's attack, he feigns a KO so he can draw in the rest of the team to use his quasi sonic attack.. Thing 7, can't recall that one.Even then, just because Ben seems to do ok against him he is automatically thing level. We just discredit all his other showings with the likes of Hulk, Thor, Gladiator, and the like...?
I guess SBP is Superboy level since he always seems to do well against him.. Amirite?
http://i.imgur.com/ByEyE64.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5ZcgBTo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f12dFDl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/k0kYEOg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KS2Tpgw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BEH1MpU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MnOljQB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aZjitGa.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn11.jpg
I don't know about that, he always looks physically weaker against Hulk or Thor. Gladiator is the jobber of the jobbers. Vulcan overpowered BB in the same series.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
FF 46 and 411, he actually downed Bolt. Oh and two other fights from Thing 3 and Thing: Last line of defense where they stalemated.http://i.imgur.com/ByEyE64.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5ZcgBTo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f12dFDl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/k0kYEOg.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/KS2Tpgw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BEH1MpU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MnOljQB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aZjitGa.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn11.jpgI don't know about that, he always looks physically weaker against Hulk or Thor. Gladiator is the jobber of the jobbers. Vulcan overpowered BB in the same series.
srug
Thor and Hulk is still Thor and Hulk.
So now his showings with Gladiator are pis..
If anything that Vulcan fight was more an energy battle as opposed to physical..
Thing managed to give fights to BB just like he's given to nearly every other main character. So let's lowball BB because of it. Might as well go into ever Thor thread and do the same. Oh lovely, Thor is here, so I can't see the relevance in bringing up Thing when two people share the average of Thing fights. They must be on the same level, no?
Also lol at Thing taking out BB in 46 and 411.
Black Bolt thought he was a kid in 411 and it blatantly said and showed he feigned defeat. And BB had Thing completely stunned and at his mercy in 46 before he inexplicably ran out of energy, which I don't even think is a thing anymore.
But lying and low balling works too. I can't even imagine what Thing has to do with this fight though unless we're under the assumption that BB is Thing level.
You'd think it'd get boring strictly low balling every single character who isn't Superman all the time on the forum but guess not. High ball Superman, do the complete opposite to everyone else. That'll prove the point. Such a tactic works for other posters who like to "slash" the turkey...
Everytime I think of taking him off ignore I am swiftly reminded what a mistake that'd be.
