Galen Marek vs. Darth Nox

Originally posted by AncientPower
No, because raw power isn't a defense in terms of a sphere like telepathy. Willpower, emotional stability and TP mastery however are. Case in point being that Vitiate and the Dread Masters combined couldn't break Revan.

So let's assume that's the case. That still doesn't prove that Nox is capable of TPing 'Killer. You neglected my question about The Father.

What suggestions do we have that Starkiller has telepathic resistance against someone as potent in the art as Nox?

The Father isn't even applicable here, he's a demigod and has a willpower far beyond anything Nox could probably even comprehend let alone challenge.

It's your burden to prove that Nox can pull it off, not our burden to prove he can't.

Why is The Father not applicable? What willpower feats does he have?

I think holding the Son, the Daughter, Abeloth, and the entire galaxy in check requires a lot of willpower, but that's just me.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
It's your burden to prove that Nox can pull it off, not our burden to prove he can't.

Why is The Father not applicable? What willpower feats does he have?

No it isn't. He's provided plenty of evidence of Nox's abilities. You've offered nothing to suggest Starkiller could resist. You said 'killers sheer power would let him resist, but AP demolished your point with his Revan example. With no counterargument, his point stands unopposed.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I think holding the Son, the Daughter, Abeloth, and the entire galaxy in check requires a lot of willpower, but that's just me.

And that was an act of "will" power as opposed to Force power... How?

Darth Nox mastered the use of mental attacks, I am not even really claiming Nox will dominate him mentally. Only that he'll be distracted enough from said TP for Nox to exploit it. Nox's other techniques are yet more advantages.

Originally posted by AncientPower
What suggestions do we have that Starkiller has telepathic resistance against someone as potent in the art as Nox?

The Father isn't even applicable here, he's a demigod and has a willpower far beyond anything Nox could probably even comprehend let alone challenge.

Because using TP on fodder like Sith assassins and Troopers is proof it will work on SK right? Keep shitposting bro. By your same no limits fallacy Galen can crumple her into a ball with flick of his wrist.

Which is more tenable of a position given he's the more powerful force wielder 👆

Telepathically dominating a squad of Sith Assassins is a great feat, actually.

FYI I can just replace The Father with The Son and labor my point equally well. The Son has no "willpower" feats to speak of. AP's argument would mean that Nox could successfully TP him.

Eh Carth I would say Galen only overpowered Kota after the fact Kota was fatigued, before that he wasn't able to get over him.

Using the One's as examples doesn't really work cuz they're like, gods? Use someone like Plagueis or Yoda or someone with immense power but no TP feats.

Plagueis does not have no TP feats, lol.

Case in point, Starkiller is one of the few overt powerhouses who has poor TP, infact he is haunted by visions and is an emotional wreck to boot.

Originally posted by carthage
Because using TP on fodder like Sith assassins and Troopers is proof it will work on SK right? Keep shitposting bro. By your same no limits fallacy Galen can crumple her into a ball with flick of his wrist.

Which is more tenable of a position given he's the more powerful force wielder 👆

Mindraping a group of Sith is nothing like a fodder TP feat and is certainly far better than anything Starkiller has done mentally. He has poor mental strength, his power is little to do with it.

Ironically I'm pretty sure SK's only TP feat is mindtricking stormtroopers, lol.

AP, just so I can grasp the full nature of your argument regarding TP, I need to know if you think that Nox could TP The Father or The Son, who has no TP resistance feats to speak of.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
And that was an act of "will" power as opposed to Force power... How?

Requiring constant effort and lengthy duration indicates willpower over Force power... How?

It's almost as if the two are... Like... Connected or something.

Is the point easier to digest for you if conveyed in sarcastically?

No I do not, I don't have Carthage's imbecilic logic that unless it's in a feat it's impossible. The Father and the Son's mental strength is heavily implied and undoubted. I don't need to be hand-held by feats alone to realise the obvious.

Starkiller is emotional, haunted and lacks the willpower to circumvent a very powerful sorcerer with mastery in the realm of TP attacks like Nox. Force power is of course a supplement to such a mental fight but not as important as the actual defenses required.