Why Man of Steel Superman Does not Top Reeve’s version

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Indeed. The time has come for a high budget Superman Film with killer special effects, a cunning antagonist, camera angles that don't make it look like it was filmed by someone with parkinson's and a Superman with the power to divert the effects of nuclear impact. We also deserve the quirky awkwardness of Clark Kent the journalist. Where the hell was that in MOS, god forbid Zach Snyder should have an entertaining scene that didn't involve someone dying to save a dog.

Too bad none of that describes the movie unless you are watching the movie high. 😂

Cmon man be reasonable. When did we get to see a relationship between Jor El or Jonathan and Clark before now?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Too bad none of that describes the movie unless you are watching the movie high. 😂

Cmon man be reasonable. When did we get to see a relationship between Jor El or Jonathan and Clark before now?

The Reeve ones had that... Not as focussed I'll admit. I guess Smallville but that isn't technically a superman movie.

But who can deny this guys awesomeness:

He was just the man. The Superman. And the old Lois was such a strong character. Amy Adams did not do it for me. The new Superman the actor... I actually liked him, he had the look and the aura of a superman, he was only burdened with a crap director... who lost all my respect when he made Sucker Punch. He only loves special effects.

Couldn't agree more

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
The Reeve ones had that... Not as focussed I'll admit. I guess Smallville but that isn't technically a superman movie.

But who can deny this guys awesomeness:

He was just the man. The Superman. And the old Lois was such a strong character. Amy Adams did not do it for me. The new Superman the actor... I actually liked him, he had the look and the aura of a superman, he was only burdened with a crap director... who lost all my respect when he made Sucker Punch. He only loves special effects.

Amy Adams was at least smart, the other Lois was just a ditz..She didn't even do her actual job. She ran around getting in trouble while not accomplishing anything. This Lois least had a mission. And helped Clark out a lot when he needed it.

None of the previous superman movies had any relationship between Jor El and Kal, or Jon and Kal. There was literally none..

Avengers had less story and many gaps in it with just as much action and people loved it.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
5 Reasons MOS sucked balls:

1. He probably killed hundreds of people with all the buildings he flew through.
2. He wasn't overly concerned with saving lives as much as fighting the bad guys.
3. I don't think there was a single still shot in the whole film, Zach Snyder was trying to be visionary with his flashbacks and breaking his camera crew's wrists, but it just came off like he was trying way too hard to be different.
4. Lois Lane knows Clark is Superman... like wtf... There is like... I don't even...
5. Too much focus on violence and fight scenes. The opening scene on Krypton ****ed around for way too long. Because ol Zach wanted to stretch the battle scenes and milk it for everything it was worth.

Conclusion: Zach Snyder Ruined Superman and now he wants ruin Batman with Superman VS Batman.

1. Because the DCAU fight scenes are so much different right? I'm sure NOBODY got killed at any point during the DCAU's frequent destructive fight scenes. MOS is the ONLY Superman story with collateral damage. At no point in his 50+ year history did Supes ever cause collateral damage (even though there's a trope based on it). I guess MOS was The ONLY one. Surrrrreeeee
2. Pretty sure the fighter pilot disagrees. And how is he not supposed to be focused on fighting bad guys when, well, fighting the bad guys is the ONLY way to save everyone? Was he supposed to appeal to Zod's heart? Because he did try that.
3. Not really. The visuals and direction of this film was superb and nigh-peerless for a superhero film
4. It's a different take on the character. Stop bringing your subjective expectations into it.
5. If you don't like fight scenes in superhero films....I HIGHLY suggest you do not watch a superhero film.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Indeed. The time has come for a high budget Superman Film with killer special effects,

MOS had that. Arguably the best in any superhero film to date.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
a cunning antagonist,

MOS had that. Zod was very well rounded and well motivated

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
camera angles that don't make it look like it was filmed by someone with parkinson's

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
and a Superman with the power to divert the effects of nuclear impact.

Um....what? As far as durability feats go, pretty sure withstanding a mountain, a flaming train, a a satellite, a terraforming machine, and a mini-black hole count as impressive. Your judgement of the film is based on whether or not Superman tanked a nuke at some point? WHHAAAA???

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
We also deserve the quirky awkwardness of Clark Kent the journalist.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Where the hell was that in MOS,

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
god forbid Zach Snyder should have an entertaining scene that didn't involve someone dying to save a dog.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Superman Returns shows that with updated special effects, Reeve’s version would still be accepted.

There were no complaints about Superman in that movie just the lack of action.

And you'll note how the lack of action made that movie suck ass and forgettable, no matter how noble Routhman was.

Well said.

Yes apparently they want to watch superman lift islands and stop falling airplanes because of disasters Lex causes in every movie. What a joke.

"Hey guys how many islands did superman lift this time!!!????? Let me know now, so I can whip it out and jack off too."

Because that's the most exciting part of any superhero story. Why even have supervillains? We can just have Clark save cats from trees all day. That's a great movie right?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Because that's the most exciting part of any superhero story. Why even have supervillains? We can just have Clark save cats from trees all day. That's a great movie right?

Yea he should never meet his fathers on screen. He should never fight anyone, he should fly around and lift islands and save the animals and stop petty robberies. I guess the fire/police department is out of a job.

I like the part where he talks about "Superman with the power to divert the effects of nuclear impact"<-Cause that happened...dead give away right there he never even saw the movie. Dude is a fool.

Who the hell goes into a Superman film thinking "If there aren't any nukes in this film, it'll be the worst Superman ever!"?

See Godzilla if you want nukes.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Who the hell goes into a Superman film thinking "If there aren't any nukes in this film, it'll be the worst Superman ever!"?

See Godzilla if you want nukes.

😂

Yea going from his movie critiques he would have liked that lousy movie actually more then this. Filled with zero action and shit storyline.

Actually I disagree with you there. I loved Godzilla. But we'll save that discussion for that thread. But yeah the criticisms for MOS are rather biased and subjective based on past expectations. No one wants something new.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Actually I disagree with you there. I loved Godzilla. But we'll save that discussion for that thread. But yeah the criticisms for MOS are rather biased and subjective based on past expectations. No one wants something new.

Audiences love alien/monster invasion movies like Godzilla/Pacific Rim/Avengers/ID4..

Its ok when those movies want to do it, but by God..Superman is stuck to islands and cats for a lifetime or the movie is an epic failure on all accounts!

People screamed when Returns came out saying they were sick of the same old crap, guess what, they changed it, then everyone screaming and wanting the old ways again. facepalm.

Kal is a monster if he saves Earth from an alien invasion. How dare he try to fight the aliens who share his powers. Supes can only save people from falling and that's it. I mean it's not like people were complaining Superman Returns was boring because he didn't fight anyone.

I swear these MOS haters are hypocrites of the highest degree.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Well of course. Unlike Total Recall or Robocop, Superman was a film that actually needed rebooting. And they did an awesome job IMO. quite honestly, the more I think about, the more I think MOS might be my favorite superhero film (Watchmen, 300, Sin City are my favorite comic book films, but they're not the same). The comparatively weak alien invasion of the Avengers doesn't hold a candle to the Kryptonian invasion.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Jesus, and you call yourself a movie reviewer?

No, I call myself Jesus. Will mow any lawn for any price.

But please dissect my post and give a detailed explanation of why I am wrong. I want to see this.

Originally posted by Lestov16
No, I call myself Jesus. Will mow any lawn for any price.

But please dissect my post and give a detailed explanation of why I am wrong. I want to see this.

Actually, this is my re-examined opinion. Did you not see my original review of MOS? And odd how you singled me out when every person in this thread clearly has their own staunch opinion on the film. Also, whereas I went point by point debunking some flawed perceptions of the film, you just put down a simplistic "NO U RONG". You are the epitome of objective criticism. Those bee stings are starting to affect your brain.

Man of Steel was the shit. One of the finest of its genre. Cavill was fine. Snyder's vision was great. Hopefully, the sequel will be even better.

They will probably have to dial down some of the action to make Benman a credible threat, but I'm sure it will still be exciting.