Khan v. Wolverine

Started by Epicurus6 pages

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Seriously?

He's claimed that Thanos operates on a universal power-level in modern times, sans any special artifact.

He is not physically as strong or stronger than Wolverine. And Khan is certainly not a physical equal to Cap, especially after Winter Soldier.

A full force kick from Khan sent a guy a few feet in the hallway scene. Wolverine from a kneeling position, clawed a guy in the leg and threw him backwards over his head at least a dozen feet. And that's just one example.

Also as for speed and agility, Khan had his guns for most of that Klingon fight. Watch Wolverine shred through those gunmen at the funeral in "The Wolverine" with just his claws.

Im not referring to Khan fighting with guns, he also fought plenty just HTH or with knives. Lord knows Im no quanchi when it comes to Khan, but with the rules of this fight Yes Khan does have a chance to out manuever Wolverine out of the ring for a win. In the end here Id probably still vote for Wolverine more than not, but Khan definately has his chance to win as well.

Originally posted by Epicurus
He's claimed that Thanos operates on a universal power-level in modern times, sans any special artifact.

I believe he said Standard Thanos>Odin and Zeus as well

Originally posted by DTM
Im not referring to Khan fighting with guns, he also fought plenty just HTH or with knives. Lord knows Im no quanchi when it comes to Khan, but with the rules of this fight Yes Khan does have a chance to out manuever Wolverine out of the ring for a win. In the end here Id probably still vote for Wolverine more than not, but Khan definately has his chance to win as well.

He has a chance, yeah. I'm just pointing out that Wolverine is more than a physical match for Khan. Khan's smarter definitely and that will go a long way in securing him a few wins. But it won't be sheer physicality that gets him the win.

I have to disagree with you to an extent, as I think Khan is closer to Wolverine physically than youre giving him credit for, very possibly an equal or even superior in some ways.

Direct comparisons from Into Darkness and Origins/The Wolverine beg to differ. Khan does have some nice physical feats, but they're wildly inconsistent and while he's supposed to be 5x humans, his strength gap isn't as great as Logan's is shown to be.

When did Logan show super strength? I always thought of him around Peak Human in strength (a bit less in speed, a but more in endurance), which is what Khan is, peak human physically.

Stopping and blocking blows from Silver Samurai. He was also strong enough to straight up tackle SS off the catwalk.

Blocking Optic Beams from Deadpool which have enough concussive force and heat behind them to cut through dozens of feet of concrete easily.

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Skip to about 51 seconds in this video. With a single swipe of his claws he has enough strength to send a man flipping over several times and at least ten feet into the air.

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Here at about 2:22, he flips Sabretooth a pretty fair distance.

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Starting at about 25 seconds, he charges Sabretooth and is strong enough to outright stop his forward momentum. And we've seen in Origins that Sabretooth is blatantly a superhuman in his own right. At 35 seconds he boots him in the gut and sends him sliding across the floor.

Also this fight with Sabretooth shows just how fast and agile Logan himself is, and Sabretooth is far faster than Khan.

I could cite more examples, but you get my point.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He's claimed that Thanos was about to kill Odin in their fight, even though the fight ended with an uninjured Odin standing over a beaten Thanos.

He claimed Thanos could defeat the 4Th Celestial host too with two days prep and no high end artifact like IG, UN, or, HOTU to help him out.

*Listens to Thanos wanking from Quan...*

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
*Listens to Thanos wanking from Quan...*

He also says that while Squirrel Girl beating Thanos is canon to the Marvel Universe, it's not canon for Thanos.

Thanos canon > Marvel canon?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Thanos canon > Marvel canon?

He seems to think his opinion > actual canon, it's not limited to just Thanos....quan has actually argued that the people in the Kill Bill universe had the durability of paper, thus the Bride cutting off their limbs couldn't be used as proof of her ability to do so against Michael Myers.

Originally posted by KingD19

Blocking Optic Beams from Deadpool which have enough concussive force and heat behind them to cut through dozens of feet of concrete easily.

That was PIS.

So is Wolverine getting knocked out by a tree branch and bullets.

Originally posted by KingD19
So is Wolverine getting knocked out by a tree branch and bullets.

No that's consistent throughout the X-Men movies.

PIS is something that's just stupid and not even possible (even after we accept mutant powers exist).

Originally posted by StealthRanger
I believe he said Standard Thanos>Odin and Zeus as well

Forget that, he's given standard Thanos the win against Lucifer f*cking Morningstar in direct combat.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
No that's consistent throughout the X-Men movies.

PIS is something that's just stupid and not even possible (even after we accept mutant powers exist).

It's not consistent as he's tanked greater damage and took bullets before with no problems.

When has Wolverine taken bullets to the head with no trouble?