Originally posted by Silent Master
So he's been ko'd by bullets to the head twice and only tanked it once, sounds to me like being ko'd is his average and tanking it is high-end. especially when you add in the other times he's been ko'd or stunned by attacks to the head.
Oh jeez not this crap again. He wad KO'd in all 3 of the Original 3 films. By Sabretooth in 1, by a bullet to the head in 2 and twice in 3 (once by Magneto and once by Jean). All were concussive blows to the head.
So yeah he can be KO'd with sufficient enough force to the head. No point whinning about a couple of times he seemed to tank more powerful blows. Especially not from a film that made little sense in canon and was full of PIS feats.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If the admantium bullet doesn't count then we are left with him being ko'd 50% of the time by bullets to the head.
^ Doubt it. Looks like Singer is ignoring Origins Wolverine in the new canon.
Striker in the new movie is a lot younger but at the same time period (Vietnam war). And when Wolverine was
Spoiler:
having images of the past, he only sees the X2 older version of Striker and not the Origins one. And when Xavier saw through his past he saw images from every X-Film except Origins:Wolverine.
Plus as we all know Gambit from that movie has been recast. So yeah it's written out of canon and will never be referenced again.
And Thank Goodness I say. That Sabretooth being his brother thing was terrible for the continuity of the films. And blocking those Cyclops beams was really stupid as well (not that the producers will be too bothered about that one, but i just bugs me!)
In fact even X3 canonicity seems in question. Obviously Wolverine stabbing Jean to stop her killing people has been referenced in the newer canon films. But that's about it. Everything else has been ignored. They didn't even bother to explain how Xavier is alive, or how Magneto got his powers back.
And the producer of X-Men did say to just forget X3 and Origins. So yeah Origins had definitely gone from Canon, and X3's canonicity is iffy.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ Doubt it. Looks like Singer is ignoring Origins Wolverine in the new canon.Striker in the new movie is a lot younger but at the same time period (Vietnam war). And when Wolverine was
Spoiler:
having images of the past, he only sees the X2 older version of Striker and not the Origins one. And when Xavier saw through his past he saw images from every X-Film except Origins:Wolverine.Plus as we all know Gambit from that movie has been recast. So yeah it's written out of canon and will never be referenced again.
And Thank Goodness I say. That Sabretooth being his brother thing was terrible for the continuity of the films. And blocking those Cyclops beams was really stupid as well (not that the producers will be too bothered about that one, but i just bugs me!)
In fact even X3 canonicity seems in question. Obviously Wolverine stabbing Jean to stop her killing people has been referenced in the newer canon films. But that's about it. Everything else has been ignored. They didn't even bother to explain how Xavier is alive, or how Magneto got his powers back.
And the producer of X-Men did say to just forget X3 and Origins. So yeah Origins had definitely gone from Canon, and X3's canonicity is iffy.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Nothing like that was shown or stated in the movie, this is just you making an excuse.
Originally posted by Epicurus
So you have nothing apart from personal speculation? No actual proof whatsoever that DoFP has retconned Origins from X-canon? Thought so.Except it was. Or do you really think regular bullets are capable of penetrating adamantium?
The bullet in the X-men scene didn't penetrate adamantium.
Originally posted by Epicurus
So you have nothing apart from personal speculation? No actual proof whatsoever that DoFP has retconned Origins from X-canon? Thought so.
All you had to do was ask for evidence. (But you were probably too damn scared):
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Edwardo2K14/news/?a=99976
And just watch DOFP, Striker was at least 10 years younger in the same damn time period. At least! LOL You call that and what the main producer herself is saying speculation? LOL
Take her advice and just ignore Origins Wolverine and probably most of X3 as well.
Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Usual lowballing and ignoring high end feats. Why am I not surprised?
Using consistent showings is not lowballing. And it's funny hearing Lowballing from a fanboy who claims Wolverine is Hyperspeed! LOL
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
All you had to do was ask for evidence. (But you were probably too damn scared):http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Edwardo2K14/news/?a=99976
And just watch DOFP, Striker was at least 10 years younger in the same damn time period. At least! LOL You call that and what the main producer herself is saying speculation? LOL
Take her advice and just ignore Origins Wolverine and probably most of X3 as well.
Lol, what she says is one thing, what the movie directly tells us is another. For one, the events of the Last Stand are still very much canon, as evidenced by the fact that Cuban missile crisis is referenced, which, guess what, took place in Last Stand.🙂
Then there is the fact that while browsing through Logan's mind, young Charles watches the Dark Phoenix incident and how Logan was forced to kill her. Yet another pointer that X3 is also canon to the movie.👆
And the final straw; the younger version of Stryker bears a striking(no pun intended) resemblance to the Origins version of Stryker. Then there is the fact that when Logan gets that brief trauma-induced flashback of the adamantium coating, that process is represented in the exact same manner it was carried out in Origins.😂
Is that all you got, chummy? 😎
Originally posted by Epicurus
It did. Just the way the bullets in the recent movie penetrated his torso. His brain ejected it out while healing from the damage.
As of X-men 2, Wolverine never had a hole in his head, you're basically arguing that a normal bullet was able to penetrate adamantium. rather than the bullet was being held in place by his skin and thus it healing dislodged the bullet.
But I'm fine with adamantium being that weak, so we can go with that if you really want.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Nope, because I know that no evidence exists which tells us that Origins has been retconned out of canon.
I just gave you the evidence. Did your mind purposefully blank it?
Originally posted by Epicurus
Lol, what she says is one thing, what the movie directly tells us is another.
We have to look to the films, but you should also add to that what the creative minds of the franchise are telling us.
Originally posted by Epicurus
For one, the events of the Last Stand are still very much canon, as evidenced by the fact that Cuban missile crisis is referenced, which, guess what, took place in Last Stand.🙂
😂 Looks like someone needs brushing up on their history.
The Cuban missile crisis happened at the time of JFK. It crossed over the events of X-Men First Class.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Then there is the fact that while browsing through Logan's mind, young Charles watches the Dark Phoenix incident and how Logan was forced to kill her. Yet another pointer that X3 is also canon to the movie.👆
I already acknowledged that. And that seems to be the only part of X3 they want to acknowledge. Probably because that was the centre story of The Wolverine so they couldn't just ignore it. Plus it gave more emotion to the end of DOFP.
But they didn't even bother to give us an explanation on how Xavier came back to life! They've completely ignored such a huge event of X3. With the Producers simply saying "Ah forget that damn movie!" LOL
Originally posted by Epicurus
And the final straw; the younger version of Stryker bears a striking(no pun intended) resemblance to the Origins version of Stryker. Then there is the fact that when Logan gets that brief trauma-induced flashback of the adamantium coating, that process is represented in the exact same manner it was carried out in Origins.😂
Nice job dreaming. BUt there were no flashbacks from Origins. The flashbacks were the ones shown in X2. And the only Striker in the flashbacks was the one shown in X2.
I wonder why the Origins Striker wasn't shown?! LOL
And to top off this whole thing, It's the same damn time period! The Vietnam War! And yet this Striker was not only purposefully a new actor but a good 10-15 years younger! LOL LOL
Stop stringing to straws. Origins is done for. It was a failed project which was supposed to lead to a whole load of Origin stories. But it failed so the studios have just ignored it.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Is that all you got, chummy? 😎
Yes, evidence! LOL, Try it sometime!
And guess what it's already confirmed Apocalypse will take place in the early 80's with both Cyclops and Jean as young X-Men shitting on X3 and Origins even more. Singer has basically just stuck his finger up at those 2 films 😆
Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Epicurus is beating the shit out SM and DP.
You sure about that? Read above 😂
Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Also DP, I said he fought someone with hyperspeed, I didn't say he had it though. You put words in people's mouth and lowball like crazy. Your no better than Quan Chi.
You were clearly using it as a speed feat for Wolverine. So just admit you were being stupid. And if anything you were the one trolling like a fanboy very similar to the way Quan wanks all over Khan.
I was using it as a feat, you kept on saying that cap was to fast for wolverine and that he wouldn't even touch him. I proved wolverine can tag him then you and SM got buthurt over it. I don't even like wolverine however when someone starts lowballing one character and wanking another one that's what gets me the most so I wasn't gonna let you win that debate.
BTW I did read above, and it showed that your mad.