Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yes and No.Yes Starkiller was more powerful than Vader while he was alive.
TFU I Starkiller beat TFU I Vader, and TFU II Starkiller barely managed to beat TFU II Vader but still beat him nonetheless.No Starkiller was not stronger than Vader at his ROTJ peak. Vader's difference in performance from TFU I to TFU II already shows his rate of improvement.
Originally posted by PTforthewin
I don't believe starkiller from TFU 2 is a clone how could be? Look at all the other clones they are all aberrant how is it possible for a clone to be full grown and still sane in 6 months? The dark apprentice was obviously a clone, Galen still had all his memories
In any case, whether or not he is a clone or the original is irrelevant to the point I was making.
Originally posted by FreshestSlicehe most likely isnt, look at all the other clones there all unstable and insane and the starkiller in tfu 2 is comepletely sane and has memories and isn't emotionless like the dark apprentice. In the darkside ending the dark apprentice has literally no feelings for Juno or any of the rebels while the tfu 2 starkiller did
The Dark Apprentice is canon, just so you know. The Starkiller in TFU II is probably a clone.
Originally posted by PTforthewin
he most likely isnt, look at all the other clones there all unstable and insane and the starkiller in tfu 2 is comepletely sane and has memories and isn't emotionless like the dark apprentice. In the darkside ending the dark apprentice has literally no feelings for Juno or any of the rebels while the tfu 2 starkiller did
Either way, Vader is stronger than Galen Marek.
Yes, Vader was defeated by Galen Marek in the original Force Unleashed novel. However, in the heat of the battle itself neither gained any sort of significant advantage, the novel even pointed out that they faced one another as equals. Marek gained the edge by baiting Vader with a tactic reminiscent of Dun Moch, and pouncing when Vader's anger made him misstep.
However, in the Force Unleashed 2, the case was not the same. Yes, similarly to the first battle, Starkiller and Vader had fought to something of a stalemate. There is a difference, though, and that difference is that the clone of Starkiller has more impressive feats than the original in the first place, thus Vader likely had improved between the two works.
Then we come to the original trilogy. While it may have been arguable before that Vader had improved between the two Force Unleashed games, it is not arguable that he improved significantly over the course of the OT. In Empire Strikes Back, the Fightsaber articles suggest that he had trained relentlessly since ANH, and thus had become a far more formidable opponent. In Return of the Jedi, Vader muses that he was currently more powerful than he had ever been, supporting his consistent improvement.
In the end, RotJ Vader is superior to Vader as he appeared in the Force Unleashed series, where he was depicted as Galen Marek's equal. /thread
Originally posted by NewGuy01**** the damn novel the scene where you press the different buttons to do the finisher move whatever is canon
Either way, Vader is stronger than Galen Marek.Yes, Vader was defeated by Galen Marek in the original Force Unleashed novel. However, in the heat of the battle itself neither gained any sort of significant advantage, the novel even pointed out that they faced one another as equals. Marek gained the edge by baiting Vader with a tactic reminiscent of Dun Moch, and pouncing when Vader's anger made him misstep.
However, in the Force Unleashed 2, the case was not the same. Yes, similarly to the first battle, Starkiller and Vader had fought to something of a stalemate. There is a difference, though, and that difference is that the clone of Starkiller has more impressive feats than the original in the first place, thus Vader likely had improved between the two works.
Then we come to the original trilogy. While it may have been arguable before that Vader had improved between the two Force Unleashed games, it is not arguable that he improved significantly over the course of the OT. In Empire Strikes Back, the Fightsaber articles suggest that he had trained relentlessly since ANH, and thus had become a far more formidable opponent. In Return of the Jedi, Vader muses that he was currently more powerful than he had ever been, supporting his consistent improvement.
In the end, RotJ Vader is superior to Vader as he appeared in the Force Unleashed series, where he was depicted as Galen Marek's equal. /thread