Is Galen Marek actually stronger then Vader?

I don't think that he is stronger than Vader. I think that he is in a game where he is the star and has to win by spamming force powers on steroids. I truly think that if Marek was not plot protected and Vader took him seriously in TUF I, Starkiller would not have made it to Sidious. In TFU II, they were fighting in a thunderstorm, and it took a ridiculous amount of Lightning to bring down Vader...So no, Starkiller is not above Vader.

He was winning in sabers against vader

Originally posted by PTforthewin
He was winning in sabers against vader

Marek was genuinely stronger than Vader. The novel confirms it.

He had more Force potential, the novel says. But as I recall, Vader was stomping him in sabers. Either way, Vader's natural learning curve pretty much removed even this advantage my TFU II.

Better swordsman =/= more powerful. Palpatine was an inferior swordsman to Yoda, not so in power. Marek was more powerful in the Force, which is what won him the battle, Vader's skill with a blade be damned.

My bad. I thought you were responding to the comment above.

Still that also became inconsequential. The clone is supposed to be stronger than Marek, but he still couldn't defeat Vader on his own.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
He had more Force potential, the novel says. But as I recall, Vader was stomping him in sabers.

In TFU I? Nope.

Originally posted by Nephthys
In TFU I? Nope.

True, he does say how surprised he is by the combination of speed and power Vader has. After he centers himself, though, the fight goes differently. On page 309 of the novel, it shows them attacking each other with sabers, and Galen comes out on top. I took a picture of it, as well, and I'll try to upload it.

Anakin in his old body could wreck his ass. lol

In sabers, sure he'd win pretty comfortably, but in the Force? Marek was more powerful in the Force than Vader, and I would put Vader above ROTS Anakin in that regard. Vader may not have Anakin's potential anymore, but he was still 80% of Palpatine and, by this time, had spent that last 17 years honing and refining his abilities.

You would put Marek over Luke Skywalker? Because since Anakin and Luke are about the same person powerwise, that's what you're implying. I doubt Marek is more powerful in the Force than Vader. Either way, even if Vader is "80 % of Palpatine" the reason never set well with me. I think a lot of things like that don't mesh well with the EU.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You would put Marek over Luke Skywalker? Because since Anakin and Luke are about the same person powerwise, that's what you're implying. I doubt Marek is more powerful in the Force than Vader. Either way, even if Vader is "80 % of Palpatine" the reason never set well with me. I think a lot of things like that don't mesh well with the EU.

I'm not implying that at all. Luke has the same potential (or pretty darn close) as Anakin, but his abilities put him over Anakin, seeing as how Luke has had more time to train and refine his craft. Darth Vader, even by TFU, is more powerful in the Force than ROTS Anakin. Anakin had more potential, but he never achieved it. As far as sabers go, I believe Anakin could win, but Marek legitimately defeated Vader in sabers, so it wouldn't be a stomp.

Galen is a tier below the most powerful MORTAL force sensitives Luke and Anakin skywalker.

Galen is quite a few tiers below (Prime) Luke in terms of combative skill.

Except Galen isn't a tier below Anakin, per ROTS. Vader, by TFU, was more powerful than Anakin, and Galen was more powerful than Vader. Anakin could win with a blade, but it wouldn't be a stomp. THat's all I'm trying to say. I'm not discounting Anakin, but remember, he never reached his potential.

Vader by TFU really wasn't as strong as Anakin...

Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
I'm not implying that at all. Luke has the same potential (or pretty darn close) as Anakin, but his abilities put him over Anakin, seeing as how Luke has had more time to train and refine his craft. Darth Vader, even by TFU, is more powerful in the Force than ROTS Anakin. Anakin had more potential, but he never achieved it. As far as sabers go, I believe Anakin could win, but Marek legitimately defeated Vader in sabers, so it wouldn't be a stomp.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Vader by TFU really wasn't as strong as Anakin...

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Again, none of that "potential" makes any sense in the grand scheme of the EU, but even if it did, saying that Vader is weaker because of losing limbs I mean, none of that suggests Starkiller is better than Vader because we haven't seen peak Starkiller to make such statements. If we are using TFUII as a basis, Vader's learning curve is much better than the clone's. Potential doesn't mean anything in this, either way.

This too.

How does it not make any sense? Vader is weaker, potentially, as he is 80% of Palpatine, where as Anakin could've become 200% of Palpatine. The TFU novel shows Marek is more powerful than Vader, and he legitimately defeated him in sabers. As this is Galen Marek and not Starkiller, TFUII shouldn't really come into play, unless the OP was asking if Marek could beat TFUII Vader.