Originally posted by ares834
Uh, what? Unless they both fall asleep at the exact same time for the exact same length every single time this is irrelevant. Eventually Supes will be awake while QS is asleep. And then he wins.
Yah, but supes still won't know where Quicksilver went. Besides that's CIS, I think.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman's senses are greater than humans so his muscles have time to react and contract.QS has him hit himself.
Kryptonian strength hurts him. Acting like it doesn't it well, trolling.
Supes brushed off a normal human's strength. He also tanked getting hit by machine gun fire in case you needed an example of something hitting Supes at supersonic speed.
How would he do that? Also since you brought it up, how much does an arm weight?
Not to the point where he's KO'd. Supes was taking hits from both Namek and Faora and still came out unscratched.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaHe can brush off a humans strength but QS isn't attacking him. He is using Supermans own strength against him.
Supes brushed off a normal human's strength. He also tanked getting hit by machine gun fire in case you needed an example of something hitting Supes at supersonic speed.How would he do that? Also since you brought it up, how much does an arm weight?
Not to the point where he's KO'd. Supes was taking hits from both Namek and Faora and still came out unscratched.
Less than 50 lbs. depends on the arm.
He was affected and it hurt him. He also was aware and bracing himself. Every punch will be a surprise that he won't see coming to it hurt a helluva lot more.
Originally posted by ares834
Supes has super senses... He will be able to sense where QS went. Plus self BFR... And no, it's not CIS nor has anything to do with CIS.
Superman won't be able to sense exactly where Quicksilver went. QS could have gone to another continent. Superman's sensing feats are not that strong
Originally posted by quanchi112
He can brush off a humans strength but QS isn't attacking him. He is using Supermans own strength against him.Less than 50 lbs. depends on the arm.
He was affected and it hurt him. He also was aware and bracing himself. Every punch will be a surprise that he won't see coming to it hurt a helluva lot more.
How would he do that if he's not stronger than Supes?
Okay but how would QS be able to affect Superman.
Not to the point of a KO'd.
Also I noticed that Supes heat vision and flight weren't taken away. So Supes could literally just float around for a bit until QS tires himself out.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Superman won't be able to sense exactly where Quicksilver went. QS could have gone to another continent. Superman's sensing feats are not that strong
This is like saying Superman flies to the moon in a fight... It's self BFR. Plus, QS never showed the endurance to run to another continent.
Anwyay, it just goes to show the only way QS has a chance at a stalemate is to run away.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaHe is slowed down so he isn't contracting until QS lets him after he redirects his fists.
How would he do that if he's not stronger than Supes?Okay but how would QS be able to affect Superman.
Not to the point of a KO'd.
By using Supermans own strength against him.
Definitely.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He is slowed down so he isn't contracting until QS lets him after he redirects his fists.By using Supermans own strength against him.
Definitely.
He doesn't have to contract and even if he did, Supes has shown enough reaction time to at least lead me to believe that Supes would know something's up.
And how would he do this especially if Supes is stationary?
Supes wasn't KO'd by other Kryptonians or the World Engine weakening him. Why would QS be any different.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If a muscle can't contract you aren't using your muscles. If his arm is just frozen without him being aware of what is occurring he can't use his strength or contract the muscle to oppose the resistance. Quit being dense, noob.
He he he. Calling me names just makes you sound like a little kid stamping his feet, crying and throwing a tantrum because he's losing an argument. 😆
* As for the noob comment: I've been on this forum on and off for ten years - how long have you been here?
* As for your argument about Superman being frozen: The people QS are fighting seem frozen in comparison to him because he is moving so much faster than them. But they are human. Superman, you seem to conveniently forget, is also moving much faster than human.
* As for QS moving the humans' arms: The reason QS can move their arms is because he is using normal human strength to move normal human limbs. Superman is much, much stronger than humans, or QS, with much denser muscle mass, as proved by his invulnerability.
QS can't hit Supes with anything heavy enough to hurt him, because he can't lift anything heavy enough. Supes can stomp the ground, fly around in circles and create a vortex, bring buildings down on top of them - hell, stand in the middle of a fire or an explosion and just laugh at QS. Or he can float over an ice pond and watch QS fall his ass off, then fly over and slap him silly.
There is not a single thing QS can do to Superman besides stamp his feet and pout, like a cheetah against a lion. He can't punch him, because he will crush every bone in his fist. If Superman is throwing a punch, he can't redirect Superman's punches, because Supes' muscles will be contracted and QS doesn't have enough strength to do anything about it. All he can do is try to get out of the way. If Supes is just standing there, not throwing punches because he's too busy laughing, and his muscles aren't contracted - then sure, QS can probably pick his arm up and slap Supes with his own hand. And then what?
See - basic physics and biology. 😉
Thanks for the laugh, though - I'm not sure what is funnier: Your insults, arguments or this fight... 😂
Originally posted by ares834
This is like saying Superman flies to the moon in a fight... It's self BFR. Plus, QS never showed the endurance to run to another continent.Anwyay, it just goes to show the only way QS has a chance at a [b]stalemate
is to run away. [/B]
You bringing up extraneous factors like sleep is poor tactics. Fact of the matter is, QS is tremendously faster than supes.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He is slowed down so he isn't contracting until QS lets him after he redirects his fists.
😂 Did you even watch DoFP, or are you youtube debating again? Seems the later.
Facts: QS doesn't actually stop or slow time, he moves so quickly that time is slowed from his perspective. In this fight, Superman's muscles would still be moving at normal speed, just incredibly slow from QS's point of view.
Originally posted by Firefly218
No and no. There is no screen evidence for those feats.
Uhm, so he has superstrength but he can't stomp the ground? He has super speed and flight but he can't fly in circles? That's just silly.
I specifically stayed away from heat vision and freezing breath because they weren't shown on screen, but saying he can't stomp the ground is like saying he can't bend a spoon between his fingers because we didn't see that, either. Super strength, logically, indicates super strength feats.
😛 Shrug. Anyway, whether you accept it or not, doesn't matter. I can think of a hundred other things he can do, also based on his feats in the movie - but I still can't think of anything QS can do except run away. 😉
Originally posted by carver9
And he was taken out of the fight from that train and the kinetic force behind someone moving as fast as Quicksilver would be more of an impact than a train moving in slow mo.
Nope, not even close. If that was the case everyone in that room QS hit would have died. A train being thrown by a kryptonian has less kinetic force then QS? Now you lost your mind man.
He shrugged off punches from his equals, please don't tell me know QS is stronger then kryptonians.
Originally posted by RobtardFaster than QS, actually.
😂 Did you even watch DoFP, or are you youtube debating again? Seems the later.Facts: QS doesn't actually stop or slow time, he moves so quickly that time is slowed from his perspective. In this fight, Superman's muscles would still be moving at normal speed, just incredibly slow from QS's point of view.
People can pull the flight speed debate all they want. That doesn't change the fact that Superman is over fifty times faster than QS is.
Originally posted by ares834No, it really wasn't.
Nah, Quanchi's jet analogy is sound (pretty much the only sound argument he made in this thread). Supes, ultimately, has not proven the ability to react at speeds near those of QS.
Superman has proven that he can make sharp turns while flying and can fly that fast in combat with Zod.
He's faster. By a considerable amount.