Originally posted by focus4chumps
then post a quote where I said it was definitely not magic.i'll be waiting
forever
Yes you will because your request is non sequitur to my point.
Nothing in your post addresses my point.
To make it more clear, you lied about what you had stated and are now trying to use a red herring point (which is non sequitur).
Dude....your ass....it's being so utterly and thoroughly handed to you. I'd stop before you further embarrass yourself.
Originally posted by RobtardDude, please quit turning everything into a sexual encounter. You're even talking about bad breath because you like kissing men or something. You're creepy.
You tried to force me (a male stranger) to Skype with you; people saw it and people mocked (and continue to mock) you because of it.What happened to the pretend 20 year old? Did you trade "her" up for a pretend 21 year old or did you have a pretend 21st birthday party for the pretend 20 year old?
You're also horrible at tennis and have atrocious breath.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes you will because your request is non sequitur to my point.Nothing in your post addresses my point.
To make it more clear, you lied about what you had stated and are now trying to use a red herring point (which is non sequitur).
Dude....your ass....it's being so utterly and thoroughly handed to you. I'd stop before you further embarrass yourself.
no quote. how expected.
the rest is just your usual diversionary drivel. you're just spinning your wheels again, doing that same old tireless rebutting act since you rage-embarrassed yourself yesterday and had another one of your creepy stalker episodes.
by your previous performance, and to your credit, you're long overdue for your "fight me irl" routine. have you been taking anger management classes?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Was that ever mentioned in the film?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Was that ever in the film or are you using hyperbole?
Originally posted by dadudemon
You do realize that if that explosion was that huge, by earth, everything on earth including the earth would be destroyed, right?Something is not adding up with what you keep saying....
Considering the size of the being destroyed by it:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/92648/3064167-6881236168-ff%2Bga.jpg
I'd say the explosion was definitely that goddamned large.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Uhhhh, nope! That's not how Dr. Manhattan's power works.It is literally magic. Wanna know how I know? They used real particle physicists to help them get the science right. His power literally does not exist in the real world. It's magic. That Veidt (the imaginarily smartest human on earth), with the help of Dr. Manhattan, can replicate that magical ability does not mean anything other than a godlike being and an imaginarily smart person are capable of replicating a small portion of Dr. Manhattan's power.
Deal with it. 🙂
Are you functionally retarded? No don't answer that.
That is literally the stupidest argument I've read on this thread so far, and considering that you've churned up quite a few stupid arguments, that's saying something.
Originally posted by dadudemon
What part about "it's impossible in physics" did you not understand?
Everything in fiction from healing factors to faster than light travel is impossible according to physics. That's called pseudoscience, or a layman's poor take on science. Not magic.
What one should actually call magic is you being capable of typing down coherent responses despite being a functional moron. Although I am beginning to guess that you get your wife to do that for you.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
robtard did not contradict me the least bit.ddm said that it definitely was magic.
I said that there is no way to be certain.
Nope, it's called fiction's exaggerated take on science to make characters and events look more appealing. Suspension of Disbelief and all that jazz.
ddm has gone batshit insane with this confusion between Watchmen and Harry Potter.
Originally posted by Epicurus
It's clearly not magic. Scientists would say the same thing about Bruce Banner's transformation into the incredible Hulk. Doesn't mean that it becomes magic.
Actually, Hulk's transformation is theorized to be magical and no one knows where the additional mass comes from. It resembles, strongly, the same transformation that the avatar of Cyttorak undergoes.
You could not have used a worse example to prove your point: that proved my point, good sir.
Originally posted by Epicurus
😂 Dumb argument.Everything in fiction from healing factors to faster than light travel is impossible according to physics. That's called pseudoscience, or a layman's poor take on science. Not magic.
What one should actually call magic is you being capable of typing down coherent responses despite being a functional moron. Although I am beginning to guess that you get your wife to do that for you.
Check out the actual definitions. Magic is the best answer. You can whine and protest all you want: it's functionally magic. Let me make it more clear for you: no humans will EVER be able to change the four fundamental forces of physics UNLESS we become functionally indistinguishable from the commonly understood definition of "God."
Originally posted by Epicurus
Yes. Multiple times to boot.I am not using hyperbole. At least not the way you do for Manhattan. Which is saying something, since hyperbole is all he's got.
No, it wouldn't because the bulk of the power was aimed to killing Galactus. Earth's destruction isn't part of the plot. It's aversion is.
Considering the size of the being destroyed by it:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/92648/3064167-6881236168-ff%2Bga.jpgI'd say the explosion was definitely that goddamned large.
So you have no arguments that support your position? Basically, you just conceded all of my points of contention.
Namely, the explosion wasn't an explosion and the power cosmic has no real definition from the films (meaning, it's ambiguous).
Thank you for proving my points. You don't realize that by answering my questions (which I already knew the answers to), you fell right into my trap and gave the EXACT answers I was looking for to destroy the last vestiges of your position. 🙂
Holy shit, it's great to be king. 😆 I'm so amazing I even impress myself, sometimes. 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
Actually, Hulk's transformation is theorized to be magical and no one knows where the additional mass comes from. It resembles, strongly, the same transformation that the avatar of Cyttorak undergoes.
Cyttorak doesn't exist in the movies either.😂
Originally posted by dadudemon
You could not have used a worse example to prove your point: that proved my point, good sir.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Check out the actual definitions. Magic is the best answer.
Originally posted by dadudemon
You can whine and protest all you want: it's functionally magic.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Let me make it more clear for you: no humans will EVER be able to change the four fundamental forces of physics UNLESS we become functionally indistinguishable from the commonly understood definition of "God."
And what does this 4 fundamental forces bullshit have to do with magic or Manhattan? Manhattan was never mentioned as manipulating any of the 4 forces. His power is over Intrinsic fields, which is wholly different from something, say like gravity.
Originally posted by dadudemon
So you have no arguments that support your position?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Basically, you just conceded all of my points of contention.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Namely, the explosion wasn't an explosion and the power cosmic has no real definition from the films (meaning, it's ambiguous).
Originally posted by dadudemon
Thank you for proving my points. You don't realize that by answering my questions (which I already knew the answers to), you fell right into my trap and gave the EXACT answers I was looking for to destroy the last vestiges of your position. 🙂Holy shit, it's great to be king. 😆 I'm so amazing I even impress myself, sometimes. 🙂
Never change, ddm.
Originally posted by Epicurus
In the movies its not. Movies have used everything from nanotechnology to biological mutation to explain his power. Comic books have never hinted at his condition being magical in nature. You wouldn't know about it anyways, since you probably got that crap from wikipedia instead of reading comics. Or you know, the easier way out in the form of the Hulk Respect thread.Cyttorak doesn't exist in the movies either.😂
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No it's not. Sci-fi is the best answer. Even magic portrayed in fiction often times has specific limits and rules attributed to its capabilities.
Every superpower portrayed in fiction if "functionally magic". Since you obviously agree with that assessment, that would mean that Manhattan's "magical"-ness isn't unique to him(as you have repeatedly implied in your previous posts). What exactly is the point behind this stupid argument then?
That would be you.
And that confirms that you suffer from some form of schizophrenia.
Except that is was shown as an explosion in the film, and Power Cosmic is a form of power which gives one control over matter and energy.
😂😂😂 The red-faced humiliation is literally seeping through your post and out of my screen.
Never change, ddm.
All of this is useless fluff. None of it contradicts the primary points I've posted. You've wasted your time. Any who can read this thread who care will see how severely I've destroyed all your points.* When the only thing you can do is repeat yourself (with points I've already destroyed), then you should realize you're wasting time (both our times).
Further responses to you on this topic will not be entertained. You're too far beneath me to warrant further attention. If you have anything else to add, something new, please preface future posts like that so I can consider responding to them. If they have something of merit, I will respond to them and give them a fair shake.
*There is one exception: the ending of the film which I was mistaken about.
Originally posted by Epicurus
WTF are talking about? Humans have designed devices which can have varying degrees of control over each of the 4 fundamental forces. And that's irl humans, not the ridiculously advanced tech which humans in fiction possess.And what does this 4 fundamental forces bullshit have to do with magic or Manhattan? Manhattan was never mentioned as manipulating any of the 4 forces. His power is over Intrinsic fields, which is wholly different from something, say like gravity.
You clearly did not pay attention to my posts. This is actually pretty sad.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Magic is nothing more than alternate physical laws, considering they affect the same matter, energy, and spacetime.
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Tons of Science Fiction uses magic in their stories...they just don't call it magic. They dress it up with fancy made-up terms. But it's still magic because it is impossible in this universe.
Originally posted by dadudemon
👆Tons of Science Fiction uses magic in their stories...they just don't call it magic. They dress it up with fancy made-up terms. But it's still magic because it is impossible in this universe.
scifi doesnt become magic when it's phyisical laws are later proven impossible. you stupid clownshoes.
When you're dealing with a quantum field or physical laws that warps matter, energy, and spacetime in ways that none of our nomological physical laws/quantum fields do, whether it is called "wizardry", "intrinistic fields", "The Force", "Power Cosmic", etc., it's all technically "magic", because "Magic", in it's basest definition, is "the science of alternate physical laws". There's really no difference between Surfer's Power Cosmic, Harry's Wand, or, Pinhead's chains (in terms of the nature of their powers, not power levels). It is all an alternative physical law affecting matter and energy.
Originally posted by focus4chumpsThe definition proves you wrong. You don't understand the definition and everyone is in here trying to explain it to you. That is the problem you just don't grasp it.
come up with some new lines, daclownshoes.if the warp engines from star trek are proven impossible, it's still scifi. not magic. you dimwitted retard.
